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#1 Jan 29 2004 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I am trying very hard to lock on to one job/subjob that I will enjoy the most. I have played as whm for so long that it's honestly starting to wear down my nerves. Of the other classes that I have been playing thf and ranger are the most interesting to me. I love tactics and strategy and as a melee would like to be a master hunter/puller of all the standard party positions.
So, I'm trying to talk myself into one or the other - thf or rng so that I can play it the best that I can...I would love to hear any suggestions and experiences from anyone that has so far devoted themselves to the bow.
What level are you?
What is your sub?
What have you subbed through different levels and why?
Do you keep up with marksmanship/use guns?
Do you make your own arrows?
Any 'hints' to making gil or covering expenses..please don't reveal unless it is obvious...
What equipment do you find essential? (as in, can I get away without leaping boots or getting a drop from that darn fly)
Do you have problems with tp - are you now or planning to sub SAM later on?
Do you have any macro tips for scanning or possibly changing arrows mid-fight?
Do you enjoy playing as a ranger and why???


Any answers are very appreciated - thank you for your time ^^;
#2 Jan 29 2004 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Dhita wrote:

What level are you?


54, 6k from 55 :D

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What is your sub?
What have you subbed through different levels and why?


Always WAR. I had it already levelled from playing thief. You don't need the accuracy from ninja early on, and no one sub offers more than warrior does. Berserk is a key ability.

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Do you keep up with marksmanship/use guns?


No and no. Don't see any compelling reason.

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Do you make your own arrows?


As of yesterday I can finally make my own scorpion arrows, but prior to that I always bought. You definitely don't have to make your own to survive.

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What equipment do you find essential? (as in, can I get away without leaping boots or getting a drop from that darn fly)


The only essential equipment is the best bow you can get and the archer's knife at 28. Selling things like leaping boots / hairpin for 200k is worth more than actually wearing them. ;) A pair of +ranged accuracy rings is useful and cheap. I still wear my Mithra RSE boots, and I used the gloves for a long time too. A pair of wing earrings is dirt cheap - drone earrings aren't too expensive either. You'll want to stick with the ranger's necklace you get for the quest unless you happen to be rich enough for a peacock charm (3-4 mil gil). You can even skimp and buy beetle/iron arrows for a long time.

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Do you have problems with tp - are you now or planning to sub SAM later on?


The party never waits on me to get tp; I usually have near 200% by the time some war/drk/drg gets 100% to renkei with. I'm not sure about samurai yet; still waiting to see how accurate sidewinder is at low tp values.

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Do you have any macro tips for scanning or possibly changing arrows mid-fight?


/equip ammo "Whatever arrow"

Use that at the top of any weapon skill or barrage macro. It's really annoying to waste a barrage because you only had 1 arrow equipped, or mess up a skillchain because you just fired your last arrow prior to the ws.

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Do you enjoy playing as a ranger and why???


I like the scanning ability. I like pulling mobs rather than having someone else **** it up - it also lets me set the pace of the party and makes me feel important. :) It's fun to be a ranger in a crowded area and constantly grab mobs while other parties have warriors running around for 5 minutes without a kill. I like dealing big damage, and I like getting invited to parties without a flag up while there are still a dozen melees lfg.
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#3 Jan 29 2004 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I find RNGs have pretty good TP rate even without a SAM sub.

Especially if you stand close enough to tag mobs with your dagger in between shots. For mandies in the Kazham side it usually means getting TP fast enough you can use WS once every pull. It's pretty nice.

I'm sure it's even better if you DID have SAM.
#4 Jan 30 2004 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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WOW - awesome reply, Otrere!
I was concerned about tp until I started playing rng, but while duoing with a SAM frined in Ghelsba I am getting equal to about 50% more tp than her in the same amount of time...as long as I don't miss too much.

Also, I didn't realize how much the mobs hate me...I mean HATE! I'm used to generating hate and not wanting to be hit from being a mage, but wow...if I land 2 regular shots in a row on an EM or T orc and my SAM friend misses more than once I am lucky if her voke gets it off of me before it does serious damage to me. I also didn't realize how low rng defences were compared to other melee - a nice challenge ;D ...It's also because of hate (and gil) that I was curious about switching out arrows for the big nukes.

Another thing I was curious about was what melee weapon you use. I've seen many higher level rng walking around with 1H axes and swords alot, but I figured that this was just for soloing and farming...none of them were mithran either ;D ((on a side note...I once played with an elvaan rng that refused to use his ranged ws oO ...he was pretty much playing as a gimped war w/1H axe that wouldn't voke and and would try to pop off an arrow every so often...silly elvaan rangers)) At level 10 I cant see myself parting with my beestinger for a while and then after that sticking with daggers exclusively. I am making sooo much hate with every arrow that low damage DOT seems to me the best way to go in order to stay alive, build tp, and still contribute between shots...I also want that archers knife pretty badly.

*sigh* so, it looks like I'll have to level my war up a bit also - oh well...berserk will rule!

Anyone else?
#5 Jan 30 2004 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Sweet...just noticed you're in Atlanta too!
#6 Jan 31 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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The 1h axe WS Rampage looks really good, but I'm not sure if you'd ever want to use it instead of Sidewinder. The +10 ranged accuracy is just too good to pass up so I haven't used any main weapon besides the archer's dagger.

Still at 54, too many key hunting parties and random junk, not enough levelling. ;)
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#7 Feb 01 2004 at 2:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I've only seen it once, but I saw a Lv70 Ranger carrying around a Francisca (1H Axe). It was a rare/ex I believe, and had definite ranged boosts. Unfortunately I don't have much more info on it since I didn't write anything down, but that's also one you might consider...

Oh, and to answer your questions from above:
(Level)- RNG36

(Level/sub)- WAR30

(Why sub)- Subbed THF off and on through the early levels, thinking that that one point of AGI would help. Riiiight. Switched straight over to WAR at Level 30, and the rest is history. Still sub the THF to go gil hunting though. =P

(Guns)- Get those gil hogs away from me. =(

(Woodworking)- I've found them to sort of be a pain in the **** to make, so I usually just buy Irons from NPCs, or Silvers if I'm feeling so bold.

(Farming)- If I told you, I'd have to kill you...

(Equipment)- Ranged Accuracy and AGI bonuses are key, like Otrere said. Remember that 2 AGI gives you 1 RAcc.

(TP)- I've actually found that I'm quite a TP machine. 14% TP per shot is awfuly nice, and Barrage makes that bar jump straight over 100%.

(Macros)- Until you hit 30, make sure you use Sharpshot (SS) before firing off any weapon skill. After 30, bind SS to Barrage and use it exclusively for that. It's quite effective...

(Enjoy)-Aye, I'm having a wonderful time playing as a Ranger, even though I'm not liking the fact that I have to wait 30 job levels for a new weapon skill. =( Just remember that you'll have to farm more gil, more often...

Hope this helps. =)
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#8 Feb 01 2004 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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OOOOHHHHH rangers are soooo coool i wanna be one... but im only at level 18 at my main job.
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#9 Feb 02 2004 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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So, I got on a leveling kick and took my rng from zilch to just shy of 20 this weekend...

Since I leveled so fast I didn't take the time to keep myself 100% top notch equipped, but my damage output was still on par or above what it was when I played black mage.

I'm still using my hunter's bow...the stats are a bit confusing - with the stats on the Hunters it doesn't hardly seem to be worse than the powerbow +1, but as a mithran I could prob go for more power and sacrifice the agi. I'll be switching as soon as my Hunters sells...seeing that I don't get a bow upgrade for a while.

Not counting equipment it has only cost me around 10-20K in arrows and food for the past 10 levels...I thought it would cost more. Mithkabobs are a MUST HAVE...they are giving me about 20% acc increace and 30-50% power increase (level on a stick =D )

Widescan has its pros and cons...if someone has engaged the mob I cant tell until I get there, and if a mob has just died it takes about 10-20 seconds for it to go away.

As for going thf or ranger...they're both very simmilar and very diiferent. I really can't make up my mind so I think I'll do both...I want to take my time with rng and do it right (if you are doing rng at 110% - with top notch equip...you are doing yourself and your team an injustice) so, I think I will do thf at least long enough to get full AF armor while working on rng in my freetime. Thf is flexible enough that I can sub nin, war, or rng until 30 -depending on what my party needs- then warrior all the way.

Honestly, ranger would be a BIG pain without a mid-30's+ job as well as the first two gobbie quests. It seems to be a really nice blend of skill, commitment, and luck - not a good job for the casual gamer.
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