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#1 Jan 26 2004 at 4:55 AM Rating: Default
What do Quivers do? I till have no idea...
#2 Jan 26 2004 at 8:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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One quiver = 99 arrows
Quivers are stackable, so 12 quivers=1 inv slot.
So that's 1188 arrows that takes up 1 inventory slot.
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#3 Jan 26 2004 at 11:30 AM Rating: Default
Wrong.....1 quiver= 12 stacks of 99 arrows
#4 Jan 26 2004 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I'm wrong then. I haven't actually used quivers, but either way it's the same amount of arrows for one slot.
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#5 Jan 26 2004 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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ok - really stupid question (especially at my level - I'm so ashamed)

Are quiver's equipable? or basically kind of just storage, and you have to open them up and equip the stacks.

I've haven't used them yet since I've been doing fine with 3-4 stacks and hunting not far out of towns.
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#6 Jan 26 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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Wrong.....1 quiver= 12 stacks of 99 arrows


wrong~!

This poster is correct:
"LermanQ" wrote:
One quiver = 99 arrows
Quivers are stackable, so 12 quivers=1 inv slot.
So that's 1188 arrows that takes up 1 inventory slot.


1 quiver=99 arrows

1 quiver is the same as 1 stack of 99 arrows, the only difference is quivers are stackable. So your inventory can either look like this:

99 silver arrows
99 silver arrows
99 silver arrows

Or like this:

3 Silver Quivers

Beleive me, i use silver quivers every day so i know how they function.

1 stack of 99 arrows + 1 carnation= 1 quiver

You cannot equip quivers. First you must use a quiver and it will turn into a stack of 99 arrows that you can equip.



Edited, Mon Jan 26 14:31:04 2004 by Jowaa

Edited, Mon Jan 26 14:32:45 2004 by Jowaa

Edited, Mon Jan 26 14:33:23 2004 by Jowaa
#7 Jan 26 2004 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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This is sort of a Question/Statement, cause I think I know but I just wanna make sure..

The person who stacks your arrows into quivers is always in the city that is leading the Conquest Region standing thing, lol. So if San d'Oria is in first place, the quiverstacker will be in San d'Oria.

Is this correct? It's what I've heard.
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#8 Jan 27 2004 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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I think that the troupe moves every game week from city to city, and they don't stay in one town every RL week depending on who's first. I don't remember 100%, but I believe that is what happens.
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#9 Jan 27 2004 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
the troop can be found in the nation leading the conquest (ie 1st place city)
#10 Jan 27 2004 at 8:26 PM Rating: Default
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Beleive me, i use silver quivers every day so i know how they function.

1 stack of 99 arrows + 1 carnation= 1 quiver

You cannot equip quivers. First you must use a quiver and it will turn into a stack of 99 arrows that you can equip.


Wait...that doesn't make sense. I'm not sitting behind the game right now, but I got the impression that 1 Quiver is listed in the AH to be sold for 20K+ gil. I always had the impression that's equivalent to 12 stacks of arrows.

I'll double check tonight but I don't recall it being listed as 12 Quivers = 20K. .....

Does it?
#11 Jan 27 2004 at 9:10 PM Rating: Default
Reduces the amount of inventory space used up by your arrows......Instead of having 12 inventory slots used up with 99 arrows in each one....you can use 1 quiver.
#12 Jan 28 2004 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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It is a simple fact. 1 quiver = 99 arrows. 1 stack of 12 quivers = 1188 arrows. If you trade the quiver-maker the maximum amount, it will be 7 stacks of 99 arrows (693 arrows) + 7 carnations, and she will give you 7 quivers in return.

Prices in AH do not necessarily reflect real value. One quiver should cost approximately the same as a stack of 99 arrows of the same type. You will notice that in the AH, there are listings for single quivers, and stacks of 12 quivers. Again, you would be bidding on 99 arrows, and 1188 arrows, respectively.

Edited, Wed Jan 28 04:18:14 2004 by redvenomweb
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#13 Jan 28 2004 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Wait...that doesn't make sense.


Yes, it makes perfect sense.

99 arrows + 1 carnation = 1 Quiver

Think of a quiver as 99 arrows in "special packaging" that allows it to be stacked.

The reason you see people selling quivers for 20k, is because they are selling a stack of quivers, or 12 quivers. 12 quivers =1188 arrows

Example:

99 silver arrows = ~1500 Gil
1 Carnation = ~64 gil

So, 12 stacks of 99 arrows = 18,000 Gil. Add in the 12 carnations to quiver them and its ~19,000 Gil.

#14 Jan 28 2004 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default
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Hey thanks for the clarification....means i better pay special attention if I were to ever pick up a quiver in the AH to look for the "12"

Like on day one of this game I remember picking up my first fire crystal and after looking at the AH I thought "Hey! I can sell this crystal for 2K!"

Lo and behold....somebody really did pick up my one crystal for 2K. I felt really bad but it helped kickstart my thievery career.

It pays to be careful.
#15 Jan 28 2004 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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hehe, i accidently put my hunters longbow up for 1k instead of 10k. **** that thing sold fast.

Thats why you dont put stuff up for auction if your so drunk you have to close one eye just to see the computer screen. ^^
#16 Jan 30 2004 at 2:52 AM Rating: Decent
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This week, sandy and windy are tied for first, and I can't find the troupe anywhere. They weren't in Sandoria 2 days ago, and they're not in Windhurst today (or I'm just being blind). Perhaps, in the event of a tie for first, they move halfway through the week? Grrrrrr.

Edited, Fri Jan 30 02:54:04 2004 by DioranSchafier
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#17 Jan 30 2004 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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So, 12 stacks of 99 arrows = 18,000 Gil. Add in the 12 carnations to quiver them and its ~19,000 Gil.


On average, how many arrows do you guys use in a battle? I'm trying to break it down to price per exp point. I'm wondering how much fishing I'm going to do in order to cover my costs.
#18 Feb 01 2004 at 3:22 AM Rating: Decent
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How many arrows... that really depends on the monster im fighting, most things... 10-15 arrows?
On boosting Monsters without a Rdm or Brd I might go through as many as 25 since i either hit it for little damage... or dont hit it at all *Looks at the Beetle and Scowls*...
Anyways from what i've gone through and checked, it adds out to about 100 arrows for 1000 xp, im sure i could cut the arrows I use in half and still do my fair share of damage, but i can afford to be so careless at the moment.
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#19 Feb 02 2004 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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How many arrows... that really depends on the monster im fighting, most things... 10-15 arrows?


OK, so lets say an average of 13 arrows per fight:

Stack of Silver Quivers (1188 arrows) = 20,000 g
Individual cost of arrow: 16.8 g
13 arrows: 218 g
Average exp per fight: 150
Gil per exp point: 1.4 g


Level 30 --> 31 cost: 7,980 g (w/ mithkabobs: 10,380 g)


That's not too bad I guess. I can farm that in about 30-60 minutes.


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Anyways from what i've gone through and checked, it adds out to about 100 arrows for 1000 xp


A little more expensive (but probably more accurate) this way:

Exp for level 30-31: 5700
Arrows used: 570
Arrow cost: 9576
Cost per exp point: 1.68 g

Level 30 --> 31 cost: 9,576 g (w/ mithkabobs: 11,976 g)

Still not too horrible.


Edited, Mon Feb 2 16:49:03 2004 by subvert
#20 Feb 02 2004 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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The measure of 100 arrows per 1000 xp sounds about right to me as well...although it sure doesn't feel like I use as much as 13-15 arrows per fight.

Accounting for how well the groups' tank can hold hate and how many arrows Barrage puts out, I thought it more in the range of maybe 10 arrows or so per IT mob.

Either way, at the end of the night it's roughly about 6 stacks of arrows per level...which comes out about the same estimate.

Math isn't my strongest point. :)
#21 Feb 06 2004 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone know the name of the NPC that makes the quivers?
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#22 Feb 06 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Her name is liek Nhuaa Hiniaue or something. If you are facing the south sandoria AH you will see her sitting down in the tent to the left. She says she wants flowers to cover the expenses of the quivering. She will only do Iron arrows and above. She is quite talkative.
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