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Galka Ranger/War with a Gun, some questions...Follow

#1 Dec 08 2003 at 7:09 PM Rating: Default
I made a Galka because I like big chars and it seemed to suit me best. I am currently lv 25, I will get the Ranger job asap I ding 30. However I have some questions:

I know my race choise may not be the best but plz don't flame my post because of that...

1: Is it really worth it to level ninja all the way up to 30 for another archer knife, will it help alot?

2: Will it be more expensive and will I hit even less the bow users with my gun??

(The guns are pretty much why I want to be a ranger in the first place...)

3: Is there and npc to buy lv 1 bullets from?

4: Will it be cheaper to craft my bullets/guns? or will making money on farming/mining/logging and bying them be cheaper/less time consuming??

Any tips or suggestions would be helpful, I have read the boards but found little information about guns and bullets so any advice would be apriciated ^^
#2 Dec 08 2003 at 10:05 PM Rating: Default
ok first let me comment that Galka are a perfectly fine race for a Ranger.. anybody that flames you knows nothing about rangers in the long run .. the truth of the matter is at later levels Race makes no substantial differance in your Ranger .. only in earlier levels when +agi/+accuracy equipment is not super common

ok I'll answer your questions in a nice organized fashion..

Regarding question..

1. Ninjas get dual wield at level 10 not 30 so you'll only have to level ninja to 10 to be able to dual wield archer's knives when they become available to you later in your Ranger career, and no, while dual wielding Archer's Knives is super cool.. its over-kill and not really neccesary .. the best sjob for ranger would be Samurai simply for the tp gain .. since its really the ranger's Weapon Skills that truly sends his/her damage soaring above the rest and a samurai sjob will get you both added tp gain per hit and the ability to meditate every 5 minutes to gain tp EVEN OUT OF COMBAT!! .. as far as nin giving more agi then sam .. this is true .. but its only like 4-6 points at level 70 ... not worth it IMO

2. As far as guns .. yes .. they are more expensive and yes they miss more often .. I speak from my own experience not from rumor or what I hear .. also .. unfortunatley all guns suck until at least level 20 when you can get the lv.20 bullets .. there are lv.1 bullets but guess what .. they are DMG:1 .. haha .. forget it man..

However, Crossbows also require the same skill as Guns, "Marksmanship", and are arguably the cheapest of all the Ranger's methods of ranged damage dealing and certainly the fastest (excluding shortbows which are a waste of time IMO).. so you will have a back up weapon when all the guns out there are just too **** expensive or you haven't reached the lv.20 mark yet when the good bullets start showing up..

Unfortunatley .. I do NOT reccommend Guns .. I wanted to use a gun.. but if you take a look at Eurotys' Bow combined with the best arrows available and the best gun available combined with the best bullets there are .. gun only outdamages it by about 10 or so DMG .. also .. Eurotys' Bow has +20-something ranged damage which might make up that 10point DMG differance all together AND it shoots faster.. the sad but true story

but, dont despair .. I went Ranger anyway and I am loving the **** out of it .. the first few levels will be rough as **** .. especially as galka .. you'll miss your Weapon skill 50% of the time or more without your 5 minute recast 1 minute Duration accuracy buff .. and even then you could miss .. it sucks .. you'll have a rough time killing decent challenge sometimes .. and sometimes you'll crush decent challenges .. at lower levels missing 3 times in a row means you are dead .. nothing can save you you'd better have your two hour available.. whether or not you live or die is based on whether on not you land your shot, remember that.. bare with it, trust me.. RNG DOES rock eventually

3. Already answered this .. but by the way .. doesn't matter cause the first gun is level 7 or 8 I can't remember which and it sucks

4. It's ALOT cheaper to craft your own .. do it .. also .. crafting arrows for less and selling them at auction for more is a good money maker later on .. not too many rng want to take the time to learn to craft and would rather shell out that 9,000 gil for 99 silver bullets ... ouch .. oh well .. more money for you ^-^

.. as far as extra tips go

GET AS MUCH +AGI EQUIPMENT AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!! .. GET AS MUCH +RANGED ACCURACY EQUIPMENT AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!! .. HUNT WITH MEAT MITHKABOBS!!! ALWAYS!!!

At level 16 I have +1agi in my dagger, +1agi in my headgear, +2 agi in my rings, +1agi in my bow, +5ranged accuracy in my necklace, +2 ranged accuracy in my bow, +2 or +3 agi when I eat a meat mithkabob for about 20 minutes and a ranged accuracy passive ability.. I know without these are would be nothing .. learn to equip well .. as I continue to level up I am missing less and less .. I imagine there will come a day when I will never miss again .. I am Hume race btw .. and goodluck to you

#3 Dec 09 2003 at 3:48 AM Rating: Default
Do you want high Dexterity or high Agility for a ranger?
#4 Dec 09 2003 at 11:48 AM Rating: Default
you want high agi to land hits, some dex fore more crits


ziero
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#5 Dec 10 2003 at 4:42 AM Rating: Default
I alway thought that dexterity was use to determine the speed and acurracy of your weapons and agility was for evasion.
#6 Dec 12 2003 at 7:19 AM Rating: Default
Thx for the awesome answers^^
#7 Dec 15 2003 at 3:47 PM Rating: Default
This request goes out to the guy that posted the long message

Would you mind posting a picture of your guy? I like ranger but I hate the way their artifact armor looks. But I know that it is not their best armor and you sounded like you were very high level. So if you could send me a picture via email or post it on the boards here I would appreciate it. Also, would you suggest Samurai or Ninja for a subjob. Or thief since I hear that is pretty good also. And last but not least would you give me the website to where I can go and find out how to start my arrow crafting (i.e. what leve to begin, what leve to get it to, what are the ingredients, where to get ingredients, I heard I should do it in my spare time, does this mean when Im healing? just waiting on a PT or what? and yeah that sort of stuff) Thanks much.
#8 Dec 23 2003 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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To me there seems to be an easy way out for the Ranger as well... I've partied maybe twice since I've started my ranger; How's that possible you ask? The answer is simple... WORMS! Kill every worm you see.. once they get easy, go to the next zone that has worms and kill them too...

I'll soloing VT's as they were easy, and getting 200 xp a pop.. no party is going to give you that at lvl 16.. :)
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#9 Dec 23 2003 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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To me there seems to be an easy way out for the Ranger as well... I've partied maybe twice since I've started my ranger; How's that possible you ask? The answer is simple... WORMS! Kill every worm you see.. once they get easy, go to the next zone that has worms and kill them too...

I'm soloing VT's as they were easy prey, and getting 200 xp a pop.. no party is going to give you that at lvl 16.. :)
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Lvl 75 Ranger
Lvl 37 Ninja
Rank 10 San D'Oria
ZM Missions Complete!
Alexander
Linkshell - Blood Tides / chiNami
#10 Dec 23 2003 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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what bow and equip do you use bantam?.just curious.
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#11 Dec 23 2003 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
Unfortunately, no amount of Ranged accuracy is overkill, Ask other rangers how many times you miss with your WS on IT mobs without sharpshot, Ask them how many times you miss it's - I have +15 Ranged Accuracy at 21, it is not enough. I cannot wait for 28. +20 accuracy here I come. For the purpose of Ranged Accuracy only, +rng accuracy is Better than + agility if the slot accomodates pieces of gear that give one stat or the other.

And as for the Samurai Sub, your TP gain bonus is Not enough to make it incredible as a sub Early on.(your accuracy will suffer from ninja by at the Best - by +10rng acc and +4agility (1 from dagger 1 from difference in sub job Stat bonus from Rng/Nin)
At level 60rng/30 sam with appropriate Accuracy it will be the king of Damage for rng subs. But that is because of meditate (100tp / 3min refresh).

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