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#1 Dec 08 2003 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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#2 Dec 08 2003 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes i am an idiot because i pressed enter thinking that it would take me from the subject line to the body of the paragraph. Sadly, as you can tell, i was mistaken.


Anyway, my question is with a RNG/WAR, would it be a better idea to use a dagger or a sword. I realize that rangers have poor skill with blade, which is why daggers are used mostly by rangers. But seeing as how my sub will be WAR then i should have better skill with swords. So, should i use dagger or sword with RNG/WAR and why?
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The most important aspect of this game is to have fun. Yeah, some job/subjob combinations are better stat-wise, but if you wanna be a Elvaan RNG/WHM by all means go for it. If its what you wanna do, make it work and have fun.
#3 Dec 08 2003 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Probably should be attacking mostly ranged; the cap for ranged combat is way higher than melee skills, and that's where your damage will come from.

The best that can be said for your melee skills is that they are good for doing skillchains (I haven't found one that includes any archery weapon skill), or building up TP on easy mobs to save ammo cost. If you already have high skill in sword from being a warrior, then go with dagger so you have more choice in weapon skills you can bring to a party, and a wider range of renkei that your group can do.
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#4 Dec 08 2003 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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i definately reccomend against going RNG as your first advamced unless you are an ebayer or have japanese friends willing to throw u a couple mil, which is likely what you will be spending if you want an invite. poorly equipped rangers are a hazard to a PT, and are avoided. but if u do go rng and u do have 1-3 million gil dagger is what you use. 2 reasons: extremely fast TP gain for uber skillchains, and archers knife, which adds ranged accuracy +10 (not sure i think +5 rng attack too?). and anyone that isnt a complete noob knows that RNG rely on DEX and ranged accuracy over anything else, both of which are hella expensive.
also the best subjob for rng is ninja, which 75% of the japanese rangers sub. only problem with ninja is it is just as expensive if not more than RNG.
#5 Dec 08 2003 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
errr....rangers need agility more than they need dex you n00b

rest is about right tho ;)
#6 Dec 08 2003 at 9:00 PM Rating: Default
I agree with this guy .. as a Ranger your main weapon is your bow .. weapons are simply there for the bonuses .. and daggers are alot more heavy on the +AGI +Ranged* bonuses then swords and the Rangers cap Dagger skill is higher then his Swrod skill so he will alos have better skill in that sense ..

about the best sjob being ninja .. well .. yea thats a **** good one .. especially if you can dual wield Archer's Knives along with the fact that nin get a great AGI bonus in their stats ..

But ..

Being ranger is about doing damage .. sjob ninja can't compare to Ranger/Samurai even in the least .. without Weaponskill you'll be hitting like a blackmage or even harder if your totally pimped out with the best gear available .. with your weaponskills rangers can triple the damage of an equal level blackmage sometimes .. /drool "Sidewinder" ...

a level 70 ranger with Samurai sjob will gain more tp per hit and will have the ability to meditate every 5 minutes to gain even more tp EVEN OUT OF COMBAT .. besides sjob ninja gives approxtimatley 6 more AGI(tops) at level 70 then sjob Samurai ... big whoop ... there is so much gear available near the end of a Ranger's career to make even the Elvaan ranger hit like a pro .. not too mention the 3 .. count'em ... 3 accuracy+ passive upgrades that the ranger recieves as he levels up .. which also apply to melee accuracy btw not just ranged..

so if you dont go samurai .. your missing out on the best single target damaging job in the game without competition..

I have seen lv.70 Rangers nail monster for over 1000 damage with sidewinder .. obey the ranger or fall to dust you fools ..

#7 Dec 08 2003 at 9:40 PM Rating: Default
caithsith i dunno what your talking about archery daggers are like 20k at worst they are droped by a mob in davoi along with assassin bow. the only reason i would go with an adv job b4 rng would be you have some nice friends that will do sam/nin quest with you. Right now im leveling to 20 as a rng then levling nin to 10 then back to rng until 40(or i get bored) then im goin back to do sam to 30 because rng/sam are retarded strong(atleast right now) but rng/nin is a decent second ninjistu can come in handy. to to the point of sword vrs dagger use whatever has the best passive abilites (i like beesting right now at lvl 15)
#8 Dec 10 2003 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Anonymous wrote:
errr....rangers need agility more than they need dex you n00b

rest is about right tho ;)


n00b eh? lol i bet u are lv 35 and think u are high level or something stfu n00b. agility is the ability to evade, and dex is the ability to hit, its that simple. then try calling me a noob after u surpass my 45/35 but that aint gonna happen.
#9 Dec 10 2003 at 6:17 PM Rating: Default
"n00b eh? lol i bet u are lv 35 and think u are high level or something stfu n00b. agility is the ability to evade, and dex is the ability to hit, its that simple. then try calling me a noob after u surpass my 45/35 but that aint gonna happen."


Dude you are a MORON. Dex is for critical hit and melee accuracy. agi is for ranged accuracy.
How i hate knowing all tards like you caitsith....
#10 Dec 14 2003 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually Agi is for ranged accuracy too. 2 Agi = +1 Ranged Acc.
This is from a japanese website and hence why most japanese rng have high agi/str and neglect all other stats. :)

#11 Dec 15 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
sorry no offence my friend i was trying to make a small joke and i may have lost some translation being of Japan. One of my new found american friends told me about this site and i thought i would correct your error while having small fun i do apologize.

also i have a 30monk 70ranger 52ninja which i am currently gaining lvl with so i am not that new to the game (^o^)



#12 Dec 17 2003 at 7:41 PM Rating: Default
LOL, you just got shut down n00b! having a lvl 45 or a lvl 35 character means nothing you high lvl nub. It's what you KNOW that counts, I see morons that are high lvl all the time. Maybe you dont notice it because well... you're a nub. Are you using an Elvaan Ranger? because elves has less acc. than other classes. And oh yea, Rather be consistant with my hits rather than hit 80% of the time and get 1 really good hit than. Hitting mob good, missing bad......... AGI helps hit things..... Dex doesnt. AGI wins! I'm going to be Taru RNG! Fear me 5 inch arrows!
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