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#1 Dec 12 2012 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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So the big Neo Salvage update came strolling in an left a big pile of underwhelm on everyone's chest.

Ares' Armor Upgrades:

Lv. 99 WAR/PLD/DRK/DRG

Ares' +1
Set: Enhances "Double Attack" effect
Head: DEF:51 HP+4% MP+4% Accuracy+15 Attack+40 Haste+6%
Body: DEF:81 HP+5% MP+5% STR+16 VIT+16 Attack+6% Adds "Regen" effect Adds "Refresh" effect
Hands: DEF:35 HP+3% MP+3% STR+9 VIT+9 Accuracy+8 Attack+8 Haste+4%
Legs: DEF:53 HP+4% MP+4% STR+8 DEX+8 "Triple Attack"+2% Haste+6%
Feet: DEF:33 HP+3% MP+3% VIT+8 AGI+8 Accuracy+11 Attack+17

Ker's
Head: DEF:49 STR+8 VIT+8 Shield skill +11 "Double Attack"+3% Haste+5%
Body: DEF:75 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 "Subtle Blow"+5 Haste+4%
Hands: DEF:32 STR+9 Attack+9 "Magic Attack Bonus"+8 Enmity+5 Haste+4%
Legs: DEF:52 HP+45 Attack+15 "Double Attack"+2% "Store TP"+8
Feet: DEF:31 VIT+7 INT+7 Attack+15 "Double Attack"+2% Wyvern: Attack+13

Everything is a sidegrade or, in most cases, a down grade to what we use now. If you're rocking Phorcy's and Adaberks, you might as well just ignore this event for heavy DD jobs. The Ker's body is soooooo close to being awesome but at SE they like to misspell StoreTP as Subtle Blow.
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#2 Dec 12 2012 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Feet: DEF:31 VIT+7 INT+7 Attack+15 "Double Attack"+2% Wyvern: Attack+13
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@#%^ YES!



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#3 Dec 12 2012 at 7:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Except DRG has 5% haste feet or Ace's to wear, and Wyvern attack is probably the most marginal stat in existence.

Yeah, they really broke up the stats badly on these. The STR/VIT should go with the higher haste and Accuracy/Attack and the HP%/MP% should go with the shield skill. Instead it's all just sh*tty hybrid pieces without the -DT or -PDT to go in a proper hybrid set.
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#4 Dec 12 2012 at 7:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Except DRG has 5% haste feet or Ace's to wear, and Wyvern attack is probably the most marginal stat in existence.
Do you think I was serious or have I been clueless my entire life and it turns out that Wyvern Attack is actually an exceptionally useful stat?


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#5 Dec 12 2012 at 9:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's Raelix, he lives for this sh*t. Just let him have this one before he goes off an a multi-paragraph rant that nobody will actually bother to read.
#6 Dec 12 2012 at 10:42 PM Rating: Good
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This is why I love you @#%^s. Seriously though, sh*t gear. I think the mnk/nin/sam/pup boys got at least one good piece and the blm/sch gals for a couple upgrades at least. Whm head too I think.
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Hahaha actually it's because I thought it was Wyvern: Double Attack +2% Attack+12, which actually would have made them alright. Dunno where I read it backwards. That would have been 'okay-ish'.
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I don't feel like creating a new thread every time new gear is introduced, so... I'm hijacking this thread and turning it into a general gear thread.

Today, my question is about this the Karieyh Set

I don't see any of the pieces playing a part in my tp set, but what about a ws set for resolution? Unless I've missed something, I'll be using the feet. The other pieces... I'm not really sure, seems to be trade offs between STR/Acc/Att.

Twilight helm seems about the same (wish I had drachenhorn or meikira)...
Phorcys body seems better...
Hands have no STR...
Using bale legs, which seem a step down if I don't need accuracy...

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#9 Apr 06 2013 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Get Mekira anyway.

Legs and Feet are solid. Feet can be 'just a sidegrade' to Dilarams for Calad or Apoc.

All of the pieces can get a +HP augment, totaling up to +350hp. Definitely worth looking at in the future for hybrid/beefy sets.
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#10 Apr 07 2013 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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Pak corselet thoughts? Also that Crobaci GS from Skirmish looks hawt :)

Pak Corselet
[Body] All Races
DEF:68 STR+16 Accuracy+18 Attack+18 "Store TP"+3 "Double Attack"+3%
LV 99 PLD DRK

Pak Corselet +1
[Body] All Races
DEF:69 STR+17 Accuracy+19 Attack+19 "Store TP"+4 "Double Attack"+4%
LV 99 PLD DRK

Crobaci GS Rare Ex
[Main] All Races
DPS: 1689 DMG:141 Delay:501
LV 99 PLD DRK RUN

Apperently can get this Augment on it:

+ D38 STR+12 WS damage+10
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#11 Apr 07 2013 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Pak is tricky to work in with OAT. You're almost required to have a haste body to make up for Ogier hands to make /WAR 5-hit viable.

That GS must have a catch or bullsh*t associated. It's just too ridiculous to even consider.
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#12 Apr 08 2013 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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Crobaci has a random pool of augments(+1/+2) depending on the amount of ghastlty stones you use, so that augment was pretty lucky :) Still, pretty nice for Ragless ppl ^^
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#13 Apr 09 2013 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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I was wanting to ask what ppl thought about ALL the new GS's including Dervish. I know that Resolution is still better though but 35% is a nice number :)

Also I can gather from Raelix's comment on Crobaci that, that GS is the absolute tits for awesomeness assuming we get similar augments.
#14 Apr 09 2013 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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Given the ability for an easy 5hit, I'd use Dervish on RUN since the job is lacking attack power and resolution has an attack penalty.
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I'm still using the WS 10% Kauriarus. Anyone got comparisions for all other new swords?
Might get Dervish then if it's not too expensive, assuming Kauriaris 99 stil ldoesn't beat it out
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Dervish is a great sword for reasons mentioned if you can get it (time to pester Busa's to do meebles) but Crobaci just blows it everything out of the water for RUN atm.
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Farming pop items is a pain though Smiley: motz
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Gathering Simulcra head, torsa and legs? Where do they drop?
Oh and while the GS's are good for RUN, what about DRK?

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With 179 dmg, +12 STR and WS DMG+10%, pretty sure it beats Fulgurante easily and maybe Ragnarok 99(without taking the 2.5x dmg procs into account)
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From Taint, respectable relic owner of Apoc and Ragnarok 99 on FFXIAH:

Just real quick test.

I have Crobaci edging out Ragnarok99. Would need to have those sick augments. .5 to 6% edge depending on the situation. If you need Rags ACC then it wins obviously.

Being able to 5hit it easily is a big plus.

95 Rag gets trashed by it.

From: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/37539/yes-yet-another-weapon-comparison-thread/#2295546
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#21 Apr 12 2013 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/37539/yes-yet-another-weapon-comparison-thread/#2296139

Basic consesnsus is that if you need ACC, Ragnarok 99 wins and if you don't, perfect augmented Crobaci wins...
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#22 Apr 25 2013 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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Think I'll just stick with my basic plan of doing Apoc 99 and try to get lucky with Crobaci and +2 augments before making a Ragnarok xd
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#23 Apr 29 2013 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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I'm... just going to leave this here

Senbaak Nagan
Great Sword DMG:246 Delay:480
HP+40 STR+7 Accuracy+40 Attack+30
PLD / DRK / RUN

Lacryma Sickle
Scythe DMG:271 Delay:528 Accuracy+40 Attack+30
DRK


It seems SE has abandoned the idea of sidegrades. II finally get to toss these @#%^ing Ace's shoes.

Mikinaak Greaves (can be augmented)
Feet DEF:37
Attack+10 "Store TP"+5 Haste+4%
WAR / PLD / DRK / BST / SAM / DRG

Source: http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/April_2013_Version_Update_Changes
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#24 Apr 29 2013 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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/mindblown

If this is AHable weapons, imagine what they gonna do to R/E/M weapons...
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Portus collar meets Houyi's gorget: Asperity Necklace Attack+8 "Store TP"+3 "Double Attack"+2%

Pya'ekue Belt DEF:14 Haste+9%

Zoran's Belt DEF:10 DEX+7 Attack+14 Haste+7%

K'ayres Ring HP+70 Attack+5 "Store TP"+5

Whirlpool Greaves DEF:59 STR+13 MND+13 Accuracy+13 Attack+20 Haste+5%




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Vespid Mantle:
DEF:20 Attack+35 Weapon Skill Accuracy+10

Tati Earring(+1):
Accuracy+5(+6) Attack+15(+16) Evasion-7(-8)
All Jobs

And the new GS look like Fulgurante too :)
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#27 Apr 29 2013 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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a 246 dmg GS!?
Just the dmg alone would be enough for a full time weapon.
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Don't forget the 272 damage Scythe.
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Yeah but I doubt anyone will have the gil to buy both when the first few weapons get on the ah. It'll make old K-Club prices look like a peasant toy.
Plus Resolution is where it's at ;)
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Now I'm no FFXImath guy, but I remember having read Resolution don't depend (as much) on base dmg as other WSs. Would these new weapons preffer any other WSs based on the dmg rating?

Any input would be appreciated.
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Due to the 100% STR mods on Resolution, the effect of your weapon DMG is reduced compared to other WSs, but that's all. None of the equations are different, so it is still important. Simply, base damage is summed up with STR mods (for Resolution), but since the STR mods are so high, weapon damage isn't nearly as effective, is all.

If DMG wasn't a factor, then we'd probably all be using OAT4 greatswords. In the end, not only will these weapons dominate everything else out there with WS damage, especially since the greatsword has ACC and STR bonuses, but the base DMG should cause these weapons to outpace even Ragnarok white damage.

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#33 May 01 2013 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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i wager the first NQ sword will sell for at least over 100 million
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Diabolic Eye gives ACC+20 at 1/5 merits, right?

Each merit after adds +5%, so does that mean Diabolic Eye gives ACC+21 at 2/5 merits? or is the in-game text wrong and it should be ACC+25 at 2/5?

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In case you havent seen,

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33458-Follow-up-Level-99-Relic-Mythic-Empyrean-and-Walk-of-Echoes-Weapons?p=432132#post432132

So our beloved Apocalypse and Ragnarok 99 might shine bright once forth!

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Might be interesting to make a WoE GS 99 to be able to Torchcleaver once in awhile if they go down that route with the proposed adjustements tho :)
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I'd certainly go for that.

Scythe and Greatsword already have some great weaponskills, so I'm more interested in being able to unlock CDC for my PLD without Almace. I guess there is Vorpal Blade, but sword doesn't really have a good physical weaponskill other than CDC, so it would be nice to use it with the delve sword.
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