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#1 Apr 16 2012 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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So recently I've been thinking that store tp would be a very nice idea >_>
Well ok I've always known it's a good idea but I liked my perle haste set being that it's the only haste I have.
I've always loved the idea of attacking faster with little delay but i guess I should get past that phase and learn that ws is the only king.
Though where do I get good Store TP stats?
Using my Kalavejs/soon to be Kauriaris my base TP is apparently 11.8.
For a 7 hit I need a TP of 14.3 per strike. 6 Hit looks even more like murder when it's 16.7 (rounded up of course).
Now I believe, that since Store TP is a percent modifier, for 7hit I need 22 Store TP, 6 hit is 42.

Now if we assume we are subbing Sam giving us STP II (15 STP). This comes down to finding an extra 7/27 STP respectively.

My only Store TP item is brutal (+1), Chivalrous Chain is also +1 but Bale is far superior to that piece. I haven't finised promy missions so can't get that juicy looking ring but I hope to eventually get it some time soon.

But what are the other pieces that are good?

Prefeably without sacrificing too much accuracy and haste if at all possible. Something cheap, something that doesn't even require a pt or a week of time for a casual player.
What are your builds for it?
#2 Apr 16 2012 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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Ace's Feet
Goading Belt
Rajas Ring

That's +15 right there.

Tyrant or Hoard Ring: stp+4
Tactical Mantle: stp+6
White Tathlum or Hagenia Stone: stp+2/3
Rose Strap: stp+4

One thing to keep in mind that is easily overlooked is that your first hit is actually your weaponskill. Since you don't typically gear for Store TP during a weaponskill, you may end up with more or less TP than a single normal hit (depends on WS).
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#3 Apr 16 2012 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Redundant crap because I didn't actually read your post at first: Don't forget +15 from /SAM.

You need +22 Store TP to 7-hit your 456 delay, because this gives you 11.8 * 1.22 for 14.3 TP per hit.


If you use Resolution in none of that you get 1.0 from the secondary hits for 11.8 + 1.0 x 4 or 16.8 TP total, but if you're still using Spinning Slash or Ground Strike you'll have to turn up your TP phase Store TP or wear the same +22 in your WS gear too to either maintain 14.3/hit from the WS or make up the difference in the TP swings.

Raja's Ring (CoP completion), Rose Strap (Campaign/Allied Notes), Goading Belt (Abby-Tahrongi KI NM, rare drop), Houyi's Gorget (Qilin VWNM, rare drop), and Ace's Leggings (Abby-Attohwa Boss NM, 100% drop) are all Ex gear and rather crucial. You're really SOL if you think you'll be doing extreme builds without gathering these, not to mention having to break your Perle set for Ace's.

You won't be doing any hitbuilding at all without at least two of these pieces, and really you should be concentrating on at least Empy+1 beforehand so you can break your Perle set bonus.
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#4 Apr 16 2012 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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Would Rose Strap only be used if it pushes our build into the next hit or always over the DA ring?
It's only 2% DA but every bit counts when you natively have none, doesn't it?
Hagenia Stone: I'm current have the bomblet for +6 acc but I don't think my acc is all that good at the moment, a key item or something to get only once acc issues are sorted?
Same idea for rings, Still using an ancient woodsman's ring (I really don't have anything else for acc) but replacing both the bomblet and ring would leave me 11 acc less.
Store TP is only useful if you can hit what your aiming for but then what kind of + ACC numbers should we be looking at, at lvl 99, minus food.

I am also in the midsts of trying for empy +1 but getting groups for seals is difficult, few do them anymore and when i do get a group together it's always one member short.



Edited, Apr 16th 2012 4:07pm by GLGunblade

Edited, Apr 16th 2012 4:09pm by GLGunblade
#5 Apr 17 2012 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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Of course you don't wear STP gear if you does not bring you to a new hit tier. I only listed gear that you could use. Ffxiah has a power search that does wonders for finding stat specific gear.

Since you seem to be on the low end with atma, gear, etc, I can't speak for you, but I probably have near capped accuracy on anything outside void watch as a naked DRK with capped skill. So accuracy outside of void watch and legion is not so important.

You should still have an accuracy gear set, but you're probably gimping yourself wearing +11 acc instead of reaching a new hit tier.
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#6 Apr 17 2012 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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a no gear, naked drk, capped and meritted skill is capped on almost everything outside VW? :o
I still feel like I'm missing more than I should be missing for but then acc is never 100%, acc caps at 95% was it?
#7 Apr 17 2012 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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GLGunblade wrote:
a no gear, naked drk, capped and meritted skill is capped on almost everything outside VW? :o
I still feel like I'm missing more than I should be missing for but then acc is never 100%, acc caps at 95% was it?
Hit rate caps at 95%. Outside of Abyssea, Voidwatch, Legion most everything is lv75 content, so between 420+ weapon skill and level correction, I can't think of much that would be particularly evasive. Maybe Dawon? Oh, and Qiqirn NMs in Neo-Nyzul.

Inside Abyssea, along with level correction and skill, you're getting a huge DEX boost which heavily favors 2h weapons.

In either case, if accuracy isn't capped, it'll be close enough. It is possible there are some random NMs that I never fight that will still have high evasion, but that's why you have a special accuracy gear set since if it's tough enough to need accuracy gear, it's going to need a lot of accuracy gear. I can't remember the last time my parser read below 93% accuracy on that content.
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