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For those that missed it, SE released the info for the next add-on, along with the rewards.




I'm thinking Str 4 Weapon Skill Acc 15 and Acc 10 Att 5 would probably be the best bet. It's an obscenely nice multi-hit WS piece and can take place of O. Hat for when you need more ACC. Thoughts, insults, eels?

Accuracy/WSAccuracy and get to wear all those stylish pieces we love FTW.

That is a disgusting amount of accuracy to overlook, like an O-Hat and Abyss Cape in one.

Still can't get more than 5% haste in a head piece, so I wouldn't bother trying to build it as one.

Normally I'd be the one making the stupid suggestions, but this time around its such a clear case of 'Chaos+O-hat+Abysscape+Assaultearring' and everything else is a joke or already exists in the game.

Theres no piece to match it for WS or TP gain (+25 accuracy for Guillo AND 4 str 5 att?) and said gains being without Haste aren't a big tradeoff when you still have your turban around.

The only issue is going to be all the SAMs and DRKs running around in big girly metal bonnets.

ugggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

So tempting to 5%haste/2str and be able to leave my ugly ass turban and askar helm at my mog, but that's just an AMAZING WS piece....

It wouldn't look so @#%^ing gay if they put the visor down.

OH GOD, BLINK FASTER

Is it lame that I'm levelling NIN because I won't have to wear turban anymore?

You do realize what 2% means, right? If you already have capped acc, then just take some out of other slots.

As much as I would of LOVED to replace that god darned Turban (I don't think it looks that bad really, but I'm sick of wearing it ON EVERY GOD DAMN JOB I HAVE) this thing is wayyyy too powerful as a WS peice.

25acc 5att 4str is a ridiculous head piece for any multi-hit WS.

But whyyyy SE couldn't you of just let us slip into 6% haste on head? :< With a little 5acc 4str perhaps ;3

* I find it ironic that I'm complaining that they just gave us the best multihit WS head peice of all time, but Turban, god, it was just sooo easy to obtain as well and all jobs D:[/sm]

Also, just like I said with Crystalline, I really don't wanna spend my money (I rather value my money, monthly fee is enough ty), but I'll end up getting this anyway as the pressure of seeing EVERYBODY in these ridiculous hats gets too much to bear.

And I really want a pretty new wah pedal for my guitar ;_; God I hate you so much right now SE, these things should not be costing us extra money D:

i'm 2/3 on ares head and nearly done with the set. i don't think i'd want to give up ares set bonus for more accuracy i don't need. my high-evasion WS macro already has something close to 475 acc in it after pizza+1. i'm thinking 5% haste head personally.

Honestly?

WS piece is definitely pure win. Glad you all hashed that out, I was thinking of going the sorta askar or the koenig +2 route.

@Sara: Yeah, yeah, vorpal. But I got the Nuevo for pld, and I'm not changing to Mirke with DW and acc, so I figure this sort of balances it out to get the ws piece for nin.

It's such a rough choice for me honestly. I don't have a big need for +25acc on ws for things like meriting and I don't use scythe on anything harder (I'd much rather use greatsword on everything but scythe is just plain better on weak stuff). Same thing for pld and war since my pld would just use atonement and my war generally doesn't need it. Though my war and sam could use it for penta-derp...

About the only things I can think of are either trying to form some kind of tanking helm I can wear most of the time (mdt-2%, enmity+4 with fast cast+3% or haste+3% maybe) or make it a ws/waltz piece for my dnc (str+4, ws acc+15 with chr+4, waltz delay -2; least it'll have two uses rather then just one...). Neither sounds that great in the end either heh.

Maybe I should lvl a pet job and benefit more from the pet augments... Just don't know. I do like the look of the galea though so I'll probably make a galea just to wear it.

~Ori

I know everyone's big into the full Ares set and all, but it was -possible- to do better for guilloine with a mix and match set before, but now a mix and match set should do even better, do to this helm. You could get the 25acc/4str/5atk head and drop so much ACC in other slots for STR/ATK it's not even funny.

Anyway, since I never use Multihits, I'm not going to bother with this helm, going for a BLM hat. I'll stick with my infinitely uglier Gnadbhod's helm.

Stupid as hell.

The "increases WS damage" part is most likely going to be a boost of 0.02 fTP, since they say it'll be 2%. On a muilthit, this means it only affects the first hit. It's also 1/5 as strong as the WS gorget's bonus, and in some cases, Sea Torques can already come close to or surpass Gorgets.

It would be better for single hit WSs, but there are already superior pieces for those.

Edited, Jul 1st 2009 2:03am by Arucaurd

ares head/body/hands/legs
warwolf belt or potent

So I will do some math here... with the set you have, take out all the gears that I wouldn't change. Total stats are:

26 str, 11 dex, 36 att, 22 acc or 24 str, 6 dex, 36 att, 30 acc

Translate into 26 str, 55.5 att, 30.25 acc or 24 str, 54 att, 34.5 acc

Change to:

Champion's helm/Ares's Body/AF+1 hands/Ares Legs
warwolf

33 str, 17 dex, 29 att, 28 acc

Translate into 33 str, 53.75 att, 40.75 acc

So the difference is 7 str and 10.5 acc vs 1.75 att or
9 str and 6.25 acc vs 0.25 att

Either way with Champions helm you win big. If you don't want the extra acc, you can always use Justice torque (it is overall better IMO regardless you need acc or not, which I did a math somewhere) and use swordbelt +1 instead of warwolf. Tho this would probably be a different story if you have full ares set. Then again, we are not taking adaberk into consideration either. Adaberk will get rid of the need of eating pizza for both tp and ws and allows you to eat big time attack food which will net you an addition 5-7 str and 100 attack while not losing any ACC.

This helm is just too good to pass on regardless what your set is.

Depends on where you are, and what buffs you get. I had several WS setups for each mob type in standard issue merit camps, greater birds, mamool bsts, mamool WHM/BLMs, mamool NINs, Mamool THFs, Sea Puks, Trolls, Imps, Skofins, Weapons, and Statues. I also had a setup for things like Kirin/Gods with a feint/angon build and no debuff build.

Anyway, before you needed E.Body and N.head to make a set that would hit harder with enough acc to not whiff a hit more than you'd like. Now you can put Alkys/AF+1 Hands over Ares, Sword Belt+1/Warwolf's over life/potent, Onyx Sollerets/Hecatomb/AF+1 over Ares., second STR ring instead of ACC, BC instead of bomblet, etc in your macros.

I don't even use multihits anymore so the only piece of Ares I'll ever want is the body. Also, when I made that statement, I forgot that Moliones's is one of he better pieces and most people would want to keep the ring on for the set, instead of say, Triumph or a good ACP ring (Like my friends Ruby Ring with a STR+2 DEX+1, for her SMN/WHM onry! /WRIST!). My statement holds truer for non-moliones's builds.

You could also drop the pizza for a real atk food lol.

Edited, Jul 1st 2009 10:22am by Arucaurd

i think i'll keep my capped accuracy in tp set at MMJSP and the like with my pizza. don't think there's any amount of att that would make up for a loss of 40 accuracy in camp/event where you're not 90%+ accuracy. i'm still looking over my options. ebody/nhead cockblocking /wrist, etc.

i'd have to look it up again but i think i did the maths and before pizza came out i had something like a 70ish% hit rate on nins and 50-60% on thf mams (it's on that 'standard merit camp accuracy' thread i'll check it later). i dont care how much attack you add it's not going to overcome 40 accuracy there, or in at an even with a similar high eva/high level mob. with cor/brd i'm already 700+ attack, easily. i *think* i was 760ish last party there w/ chaos roll and pizza.

472 base attack in tp gear
522ish base attack w/ pizza
chaos gives 3-41% attack, depending on how much suck you get

537 - 736 attack tp w/ chaos

WS is 509 base
559 w/ pizza

575 - 788 WS w/ chaos

and with a lot higher melee hit rate than 70% too. should be pretty close to cap, if not at cap.

Edited, Jul 1st 2009 8:44pm by gigasnail

tbh i have no idea how the food/buff cycle would interact like that. i'll check maths later, doing AM 42-44 now

This helm is nice, it lets you get a 6 hit build with /nin. And a 5 hit build /sam. This was not possible before without eating Carbonara which did not let you eat pizza. Since you can eat pizza, you can have a 5hit /sam build with capped accuracy. Hotness.
TP Gear
Head Champion's Galea (3% haste, 4store-tp)
Body Aurum Cuirass
Hands Homam Manopolas
Legs Homam Cosciales
Feet Homam Gambieras
Neck Chivalrous Chain
Waist Swift Belt
Back Bushido Cape
Ear1 Abyssal Earring
Ear2 Brutal Earring
Ring1 Raja's Ring
Ring2 Ecphoria Ring
Main Tredecim
Offhand Pole Strap
Ammo White Tathlum

WS Gear
Head Chaos Burgeonet +1
Body Askar Korazin
Hands Chaos Gauntlets +1
Legs Black Cuisses
Feet Chaos Sollerets +1
Neck Chivalrous Chain
Waist Warwolf Belt
Back Cerberus Mantle
Ear1 Abyssal Earring
Ear2 Brutal Earring
Ring1 Raja's Ring
Ring2 Triumph Ring
Main Tredecim
Offhand Pole Strap
Ammo White Tathlum
Ranged Empty

That is a crazy DOT build.



Edited, Jul 2nd 2009 8:43pm by Skyra

Edited, Jul 2nd 2009 8:43pm by Skyra

I've never really liked the massive-STP builds, especially when you get to the stage of needing Bushido's cape <.< I mean, if you aren't in a situation where you can ws exactly on 100tp, that gear is mostly a waste, compared to using better options, thus turning the head into a situational thing.

@ aru: what gear are you tp'ing in with 70%+ acc on nin mams before food/buffs/DE? i was just curious, from what i remember of you mentioning your gear (bec/pole, berk/justice/abyssal/homam/bomblet?) the 65-70% sounds right.

not nit-picking your accuracy total; my point is that with pizza alone you'll hit nearly 90%+, with hasso or DE capping you out the rest of the way. what heavy meat are you using that outweighs a +20% hit rate coupled with 50 att? i can't really think of much off hand.

i am always looking to build the better mousetrap. my birds build has been done for a year or more now, same with trolls. my mamool build is pretty well optimized now, i'm working on my GS 6 hit build (X3 nagerling runs this weekend).

guys, i think i have a problem: i'm a pizza addict.

@skyra:

man i dunno about that 5 hit sam sub ~ 6 hit nin sub build. that's a @#%^ton of sTP sacrifices. if i'm going for a 5 hit i think i'd have to rely on sam/chaos rolls. don't think i could conscience those for normal use. maybe for a 2hour zerg melee set on something souleater resistance? still think a standard build would beat it out.

My standard build using my ffxi calculator I made.

	Total Dam/Sec	50.31527962		TP ACC	0.95		WS ACC		0.95	 
	Average Hit	142		         TP ATK	1.426		WS ATK		1.538	 
	Average Hit Dam/Min	1327		TP Emnity	6		TP Emnity		6	 
	Average WS	846		         TP DEF	240					 
	Average WS/Min	1691.916777		TP EVA	12					 
				                 DAM TAKEN/min	0					 
	Cure self?	0		TP VE/min	-1703.717		WS VE/min		2505.728747	 
	Job Abilities?	0		TP CE/min	5785.72		WS CE/min		7258.322975	 
	Total Emnity/Min	13846.05472		Total	4082.003		Total		9764.051722	 
 
	Buffs			Character			TP Gear			WS Gear 
Food	Marinara Pizza +1		Race	MIT		Head	Walahara Turban		Head	Chaos Burgeonet +1 
Buff	Haste		Main Job	DRK		Body	Haubergeon +1		Body	Haubergeon +1 
Buff	Empty		Sub Job	SAM		Hands	Homam Manopolas		Hands	Chaos Gauntlets +1 
Buff	Empty					Legs	Homam Cosciales		Legs	Black Cuisses 
Buff	Empty			Style		Feet	Homam Gambieras		Feet	Chaos Sollerets +1 
Buff	Empty		Usage	2		Neck	Chivalrous Chain		Neck	Chivalrous Chain 
Buff	Empty		1	1 handed		Waist	Swift Belt		Waist	Warwolf Belt 
Buff	Empty		2	2 handed		Back	Cerberus Mantle		Back	Cerberus Mantle 
Buff	Empty		3	DW		Ear1	Abyssal Earring		Ear1	Abyssal Earring 
Buff	Empty		4	Ranged		Ear2	Brutal Earring		Ear2	Brutal Earring 
						Ring1	Raja's Ring		Ring1	Raja's Ring 
						Ring2	Triumph Ring		Ring2	Triumph Ring 
 -skill	16		WS	Guillotine	Main	Tredecim		Main	Tredecim 
calc	14.4					Offhand	Pole Strap		Offhand	Pole Strap 
Negaitve Skill	0   Mob	Mam Stabler		Ammo	Bomb Core		Ammo	Bomb Core 
Weapon Merits	16					Ranged	Empty		Ranged	Empty 

Compared to the new 5 hit /sam build.

	Total Dam/Sec	53.20921839		TP ACC	0.95		WS ACC		0.95	 
	Average Hit	131		         TP ATK	1.342		WS ATK		1.518	 
	Average Hit Dam/Min	1180		TP Emnity	1		TP Emnity		4	 
	Average WS	835		         TP DEF	206					 
	Average WS/Min	2012.553103		TP EVA	32					 
				                 DAM TAKEN/min	0					 
	Cure self?	0		TP VE/min	-1913.78		WS VE/min		2980.591146	 
	Job Abilities?	0		TP CE/min	5144.8		WS CE/min		8633.852813	 
	Total Emnity/Min	14845.46396		Total	3231.02		Total		11614.44396	 
 
	Buffs			Character			TP Gear			WS Gear 
Food	Marinara Pizza +1		Race	MIT		Head	Champion's Galea		Head	Chaos Burgeonet +1 
Buff	Haste		Main Job	DRK		Body	Aurum Cuirass		Body	Aurum Cuirass 
Buff	Empty		Sub Job	SAM		Hands	Homam Manopolas		Hands	Chaos Gauntlets +1 
Buff	Empty					Legs	Homam Cosciales		Legs	Black Cuisses 
Buff	Empty			Style		Feet	Homam Gambieras		Feet	Chaos Sollerets +1 
Buff	Empty		Usage	2		Neck	Chivalrous Chain		Neck	Chivalrous Chain 
Buff	Empty		1	1 handed		Waist	Swift Belt		Waist	Warwolf Belt 
Buff	Empty		2	2 handed		Back	Bushido Cape		Back	Cerberus Mantle 
Buff	Empty		3	DW		Ear1	Attila's Earring		Ear1	Abyssal Earring 
Buff	Empty		4	Ranged		Ear2	Brutal Earring		Ear2	Brutal Earring 
						Ring1	Raja's Ring		Ring1	Raja's Ring 
						Ring2	Ecphoria Ring		Ring2	Triumph Ring 
 -skill	16		WS	Guillotine	Main	Tredecim		Main	Tredecim 
calc	14.4					Offhand	Pole Strap		Offhand	Pole Strap 
Negaitve Skill	0   Mob	Mam Stabler		Ammo	White Tathlum		Ammo	White Tathlum 
Weapon Merits	16					Ranged	Empty		Ranged	Empty 

Sorry, the formatting did not stay 100%

I guess I should turn it into a WS helm, change my WS gear and compare numbers.

Added a config that used Hedge Pie and the WS helm (25acc, 4str, 5atk)

	Total Dam/Sec	53.31377795		TP ACC	0.95		WS ACC		0.95	 
	Average Hit	151		         TP ATK	1.515		WS ATK		1.645	 
	Average Hit Dam/Min	1391		TP Emnity	6		TP Emnity		6	 
	Average WS	917		         TP DEF	263					 
	Average WS/Min	1807.826677		TP EVA	12					 
				                 DAM TAKEN/min	0					 
	Cure self?	0		TP VE/min	-1612.261		WS VE/min		2677.391309	 
	Job Abilities?	0		TP CE/min	6064.76		WS CE/min		7755.576445	 
	Total Emnity/Min	14885.46675		Total	4452.499		Total		10432.96775	 
 
	Buffs			Character			TP Gear			WS Gear 
Food	Hedgehog Pie		Race	MIT		Head	Askar Zucchetoo		Head	Champion's Galea WS 
Buff	Haste		Main Job	DRK		Body	Haubergeon +1		Body	Haubergeon +1 
Buff	Empty		Sub Job	SAM		Hands	Homam Manopolas		Hands	Chaos Gauntlets +1 
Buff	Empty					Legs	Homam Cosciales		Legs	Black Cuisses 
Buff	Empty			Style		Feet	Homam Gambieras		Feet	Chaos Sollerets +1 
Buff	Empty		Usage	2		Neck	Peacock Charm		Neck	Chivalrous Chain 
Buff	Empty		1	1 handed		Waist	Swift Belt		Waist	Warwolf Belt 
Buff	Empty		2	2 handed		Back	Cerberus Mantle		Back	Cerberus Mantle 
Buff	Empty		3	DW		Ear1	Abyssal Earring		Ear1	Abyssal Earring 
Buff	Empty		4	Ranged		Ear2	Brutal Earring		Ear2	Brutal Earring 
						Ring1	Raja's Ring		Ring1	Raja's Ring 
						Ring2	Toreador's Ring		Ring2	Triumph Ring 
 -skill	16		WS	Guillotine	Main	Tredecim		Main	Tredecim 
calc	14.4					Offhand	Pole Strap		Offhand	Pole Strap 
Negaitve Skill	0   Mob	Mam Stabler		Ammo	Fire Bomlet		Ammo	Fire Bomlet 
Weapon Merits	16					Ranged	Empty		Ranged	Empty 

Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 9:05pm by Skyra

Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 9:08pm by Skyra

Yup I mind, if you don't like it, don't stare.

The important part was 53 dam/sec vs. 50 dam/sec.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 6:27pm by Skyra