The Road of DRK [Renz+ Disifer] [Re-updated]Follow

Thanks for the replies guys.../drg? That sounds interesting, and I've always wondered about jump and the accuracy trait...well, looks like I'll be levelling some subs then^^.

Question about tred scythe, if I WS on 13th hit will it skip my crit?



skimmed tred scythe forum but didnt see

Edited, Dec 13th 2006 9:18am by Pobyedobyed

Edited, Dec 13th 2006 9:19am by Pobyedobyed

Bump, it's a good guide, i don't agree with parts of it but thats just me.
oh and bumped as to prevent more noob questions.



Edited, Dec 29th 2006 5:10pm by davetheelf

LD, ive been a drk for a while now and i got a question. Im a lvl 75 Drk and i use Martial scythe, alot. Its actually my main scythe as a drk/thf (I use Trec as Drk/War for the uber crit). My reasoning behind this is because the extra 100% TP i get boosted onto me when using a WS. 140TP Spiral Hell becomes a 240%, which gives me the 3x mod that makes it always 1k+ (Str macro, abs str and int when i can afford it). Is that so bad? And if it is could you give me a good explanation why, and give me a alternative? Every 'test' i do, or that i like to think i do keeps comming out proving that a 140% Spiral with /thf and martial out does any other WS/scythe combo at the current time with /thf. (Ive done better guillotines, but thats because of double atk proc and crit rate with 4 hits with a trec as a /war). And if it isnt so bad, and an actually good combination to consider, why isnt it stated? Me and a fellow drk on my server both has extrodinary results with this combination, DoT suffers 10dmg average a hit from death and trec, and i dotn get the 13 hit crit, but you yourself said, any half decen drk knows endgame, its about Spike damage and Stun, and the highest spike damage in the shortest time ive found so far for /thf is Spiral Hell/Martial.

I havent gotten to read the whole thread yet, as im about to go to school and just registered. If some one asked the question just say so, ill find it when im home again.

Thank You.

P.S. Sakaio, i read your thread, and at first i thought it was a good attempt. And if you were any stupider, i'd feel some sorrow or pity for you, but right now i just want you to go die. Fker. <3

I just wanted to note that 240 should be changed to 256 since we have a B+ skill not a B-.



People might miss the fact that DRK can never obtain this WS even though you stated that its WAR only. It should be removed from the list. I can not think of a single reason to use GA ever after level 60.


I think it should be noted that while using Seigan/Hasso Cast time and recast time are increased by 50%. This is one of the major problems I experience with /SAM. My stun recast goes really high as I do not have time to cancel Seigan/Hasso when I need to use a stun spell. If I am being used as a stunner I do not use either ability or use a different sub job. I only sub SAM if I can DD only.


Just to nitpick. Groundstrike is Breeze I believe, not Snow.

quote]Spells:
Stun
Drain
Aspir
Absorb-tp [/quote]
I think Abs_STR should be added into this now with the sec cast timer, its a great spell to cast if you can spare the mp.


I know this is just an opinion but I think that Diabolic Eye is a great ability and should be considered for swaping out some merits from Dark Seal. The increase in accuracy while using this ability is Huge. Atleast have 1 merit into it so you can access it during NM fights.\


I know this is not usable in EXP party, but having /WHM available to sub is very nice for some instances for different kinds of activities. With the access to our MP pool we can provide a good amount of backup healing and status removals. Just a thought.


I think you should include the Justice Torque in on this section. I am currently working on getting it and think it is a staple piece like the abyssal for any Die Hard DRK. 7 Scythe Skill and 5 STR. RAR!

I also think the Rutter Sabatons should be mentioned for a nice WS peiece which is accessable at level 67 I think. +3STR +5ATK

Thats all the comments I have for now. I have noticed people referencing this post so I thought it should be combed over.

Skyra

Edited, Jan 8th 2007 10:34pm by Skyra

i'd like to comment on the sam sub and hasso/seigan recast penalty. it's really not much of an issue so far for me. i have missed stunning the occasional firega III from an imp when one of our pulled mobs gets a wild hair up its ass and decides to stop and nuke us on the way in. this hurts my professional pride a bit, but mire mobs are so weak that if we eat one or two tIII -ga spells in a night it's not a big thing. more annoying is the recast on abs tp. but really as /sam i have more TP than i know what to do with anyway, so it's mostly just breaking the habit of automatically abs tp after the first 4 seconds or so of the fight. if i'm going to to merits it's /sam for me unless i know the tank has balls of solid rock. if i'm going for main stunner then most likely i'll be /thf or /war (if it's needed for claiming) anyway. i'm going to go to gods as /sam in a week or two, just to see how hasso zerg stacks up in damage vs. SATA. i'll post results.

Bump- Oh, wait...MY STICKY REQUEST WORKED, BWAHAHAHAHA!

Commence reaming people for not reading this and asking an obvious question.

skyra is right about the apoc and torque, i dont even know what she is talking about but if anywhere in this guide someone talks about apoc but they leave out torques, the torques need to be added, if for no other reason than you can way WAY more easily obtain a torque than any relic.

and the wiki still says our cap is 240, and since i trust the wiki more than somepage... at any rate, i find it hard to believe that if this was changed, that nobody after all this time would have updated the wiki.

Search the forums on KI, that's where I got the information on GA being capped @240.

Great Axe cap is 240, yes.

all this talk about having STR being a#1 priority got me confused. i read the drk guide a few months back and read the stat priority was accuracy&attack>Dex&str and bought an assload of new ACC&ATK enhancing pimp gear. Now you're telling me this is why im still not doing as much damage as a DRK should?!

...*kills self for spending 300k*

my gear adds up to be Attack+21
and accuracy+19 with scythe
accuracy+16 without scythe

My scythe, belt, one ring, and hands increase my accuracy
everything else except my boots, weapon, and ranged jacks up my attack power.

wtf v.v so is attack important or not? im sorry for asking a question that could be answered with extensive research but i just need to get it straight in my head.

Cross Reaper, is STR/MND, not STR/INT, but who cares anyway. :P

Edited, Apr 5th 2007 12:05pm by Allexia

I do. I always thought that only Nightmare Scythe and Guillotine used MND as a secondary modifier, and that CR was STR/INT. Now I know to toss in my AF feet for WS macro not only for Guillotine but also for Cross Reaper, until I can get some good STR gear for the slot.

Rate-up for correcting my ignorance.

Introduction: First of all I am an up & coming DRK. I have lvls DRK 28, WAR 32, NIN 37, Working on THF, and DRM16 (Used when I have to solo). I know these aren't high numbers at all but I have been in the game for about a month so bear with me. I am reading all the entries about becoming a good party member and as stated "Above Average DRK". I have heard more than once FTW (For The Win)and I am trying to fit that area. So all u DRKs don't chew me up too bad. I want to push DRK to the limit. Money is a concern but with 6 mules all Gardening with max # of pots (Picked Gardening because I don't have to keep them on line to produce product) and in addition 1 mule also performs crafting in smithing, Gold smithing, food, and woodworking. I am using mules to as producers so I can leave my Galka in the field to do what I want to do and that is LVLing. After reading I should have maybe gone Elvaan but went this way I will press on with Galka.

Your article seems to cover better than most. I need someone that is exp. Don't have time to waste going different directions. YES, I read ur articles on all the aspects of DRK but there are others articles that seem to go other directions. Please have some patience with me this once. Love the game and character roles. So here I go with the questions. I know this has been discussed before but hang in there an answer these few concerns. I have read in various threads suggestions on armor, weapons, food.

1.Why would I buy armor that takes away DEF and adds one of the other areas (exception acc)?
2. Sence the Scythe seems slow what is the balance between slow and increased DMG? (Scythe is being capped everytime I increase a lvl. Working on G. Sword, and G. Axe.)
3. There seems to a great controvesy on Meat vs Sushi But what about sweets that increase MP?
4. The hardest questions which is Weapon vs Food: What do u higher lvl DRKs use to balance food & Weapon. Is it some basic equation that numerically is used to do the figuring or what?

Yes, I have fun big time with the game but it is more fun to use the right gear vs getting frustrated with wrong gear, not being an asset in a prty, or just wandering around sending money and being less than u could be. I also want to be an asset to the DRK group not just a gamer! :) Sorry this is so long to read but if any DRK sees the name "Meditor" on the Odin server I at least want them to know I am trying damn hard to be a good one even if I screw up sometimes. Suggestions are always a help, even in the field. Thanks for the article. For people like me, we are trying!

WHAT!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?

Just saw some thing I figured id correct. The Horror Voulge is the only Voulge type Gaxe that drk can use. The voulge and twicer are both war only.

Edited, Dec 8th 2007 10:00pm by PiMpStIcKone

Edited, Dec 8th 2007 10:01pm by PiMpStIcKone

the level you're at, those are fine for guillotine. you're going to want to concentrate on landing all your hits, then cramming in att, str, acc, and mind if you can't fit one of the other three stats in a slot. after 75 and merits you can begin to slowly remove some of the accuracy and replace it with STR pieces, depending on camp. it takes alot of practice but it's well worth the effort.

as for limited inventory, go do the gobbiebag quests. no reason you shouldn't have 70 slots, it helps TONS.

cross reaper and spinning slash open up soon, you'll want to primarily stack str for both, with mnd for CR and int for SS where you can't fit in str.

Wow....... I should really find my account info and get back on and update my stuff shouldn't I lol......

Edited, Feb 22nd 2009 6:13am by Mangochips