The "OFFICIAL" Dark Knight DING! Thread.Follow

You're welcome.

You can shut the f*ck up now. Sorry your Redemption is as trash as it ever was. Enjoy your Heavy Metal Plate hunting.

also dont forget to add the damage Quietus > Quietus darkness brings, thats not possible with entropy

Edited, Jan 5th 2012 3:48pm by Finuve

It never gets easier. Someone can still just ignore four paragraphs of 2nd grade math and continue thinking Exclusive WS = Better WS. Maybe I just still have nothing better to do.


Okay follow me on this. At least 60% of your damage is coming from WS now. 60:40 split. You should have been doing this at level 75 really, and it's only gotten more WS heavy since fTPs and WSCs have gone up but melee damage stays relatively the same.

With Redemption, ODD is a 30% proc rate on 40% of your damage. That's 12% more total damage.

With Redemption, Entropy over Quietus is 26% more damage, even before a decent INT set, on 60% of your damage on all but six mobs in the whole game. That's 15.6% more total damage.

Even if you knock out a 300TP Quietus to start it's only 20% more total damage and it starts winning just because of ODD procs.

So if Entropy is at least equal in performance to Quietus and the ODD procs with the very weapon that is dedicated to Quietus, what the hell other Scythe is going to beat Entropy with anything else?

There is simply no particular reason to use Quietus over Entropy even if you have Redemption! You mentioned just about the only one, self-SC, but Entropy opens and closes Darkness too, and is Gravitation to Quietus's Distortion: You're actually better off going Quietus->Entropy!

You get scaling with TP without needing to be gimpy low on attack, you get a smoother 5-hit, and even bottomless MP is worth mentioning if a bit pointless.

You came in here with this doubt that Entropy beats Quietus. If you aren't going to accept a simple analysis then GTFO and do it yourself already, and don't cock it up by having Gorget+Belt affect only the first hit.

Edited, Jan 5th 2012 3:17pm by Raelix

Sorry, but competent DRKs have been between 40:60 and 30:70 since level 75. 60:40? Sure: in Abyssea with completely the wrong atma for DRK, using a low-fTP attack-bonused WS on capped-Ratio targets, and taking no advantage of that attack bonus that makes it anything but a sidegrade of even Guillotine. Your eyeballing of Quietus being anything but marginally better than Guillotine is irrelevant.

Around here that's called 'Doing it wrong'. If you want to play with RR/GH e-peen crits, throw on Roaring Laughter and /MNK too and actually be useful at the same time, else get with the times and put on Apoc, A&O or Lion, and VV or RR depending on what WS you've got (VV for Quietus, RR for Entropy and Guillotine) and learn that DRK's WS spam is still unmatched, despite not doing 4k+, even in Abyssea.

Next you're gonna tell me 5-hit is overrated.

game uninstalled: O

Got Resolution to 4/5 yesterday night, I must say I'm impressed! Was using my updated Spinning Slash/Ground Strike equip until I got the skill to use it, was pumping out 2k+ WS at 100% P with 1-2-3 upgrades in it with a Jingang GS I got on AH (looks better then Krieg and was 500k cheaper then Gram, which was not on AH at that time...) Think it settled my choice on my leftover Empy XD Thinking about doing Apocalypse and Ragnarok for my DRK, being real casual in dynamis solo would take me between 3-6 months for each ^^ Also unlocked Entropy 1/5 to see how it does :P

5/5 Resolution!

I've gotten three.

Kinda sucks because it has to be replaced with ele Gorget for Reso or Ent, so it's not actually very useful in comparison to or a valid replacement for Hagneia stone just as an example.

Yup, I'm stuck on Krab and been taking a solid month break for my secret project now. Sitting on 125 mirrors and 150 sand still.

I'll probably end up coming back to level DNC to do it the same way you did (among other things) since I already have full +1 for the job...

Edited, Apr 18th 2012 10:31am by Raelix

Well nice day for DRK, got Ace's mail on the 5th try today and Ogier's gauntlets on the 4th try ^^ (not counting other runs where I didn't had the key items to push blue lights to 550% with Rubicund cells. Only missing Ogier's surcoat for Tping and I can focus on Armada hauberk farming + Apocalypse funds...Anyone got the 99 version and mind posting his/her impressions on the last upgrade(95 to 99)? I see some Umbral marrow go for 20 mil+ on my server, so that cash(100 mil+) could either solidify the scythe or sponsor a good deal of another relic(Gkt or GS comes to mind) if I would get the urge to do so!

P.S. I fell in love again with DRK with OaT Fulgurante, that thing is so much fun 6 hit /war ^^

Get a rank 3 win, then worry about it.

I got a Mekira body, 1/5 and first kill of a set, then felt bad because I had to spend the rest of the run pulling a kitten out from under the house (but apparently they started another before the WHM was back anyway).

Finished Abyss +2 hands. Not sure if I still really give half a sh*t about Diabolic Eye, but it takes just a half dozen NMs to get the limit points back to switch again. Also switched out AF head for Khthoinos over using Mekira-oto for Entropy, but that's for lack of Twilight (only got Knife on a solo run where I had the friggin' GS read for blue and it just wouldn't stick).

5/5 LR effect
5/5 LR recast
5/5 Desperate Blows

after that, up to you... I went
5/5 Dark Seal

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 9:03pm by xypin

Armada Hauberk mine! Gonna augment it til I get at least Store TP+5 and Double Attack+2%, hopefully Store TP+6 and Double Attack+3% :) Next stop, Phorcys gear!

New 2hr:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106679-Test-Server-Findings?p=5335086&viewfull=1#post5335086

Nevermind, not as awesome as it looks. The total tp drained is capped:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/108197-Random-Facts-Thread-Abilities?p=5335076&viewfull=1#post5335076

Edited, Aug 4th 2012 8:56am by xypin

Hehe You gonna farm some Apocalypse with that BST 99 of yours after OaT? ;)

Woke up this morning, got a Colorful Abyssite 1/3 and Blue Abyssite 1/1. Poked LS and Fina sama came on SMN to make it easy. Dropped the last shell I needed.

Then I hopped in the usual La Theine worms group and dropped party every 15min to kill Mikey. Racked up the 17 nuggets I needed in the time I got about 17 merits as well.

Then I went and did Bastion for two hours because I'd bought DNC, DRG, and COR legs since working up the 9k credits I needed for Daybreaks and still needed NQ BST legs anyway. Aeolian Edge -> Snarl made it soooo easy to rack up 2k+ credits per battle, but then half the time some split portion or another group would come along, run past everyone, and one-shot the Martello. Now I remember why nobody does Bastion if they can help it.

Then I spent SIX MINUTES at four menus with 16 inputs per cycle for one Iridescent at a time, 50 times over.

All told, Fulgurante done within 3 days of leveling BST.

So in augmenting through tatters do you lose the tatter each successful synergy? Can you re-use the augmented armor piece in another synergy and chose weather to keep the results or not?

Side note to Rae 5/6 on the NIN leg +2 item and 4/6 on the DRK +2 leg item. That @#%^er dies three times without dropping sh*t. But I did learn that if you stay ~35 distance from him he won't spawn an add on you.

Figured out that with the Tactical Mantle I picked up with Busa, I can 5-hit OAT.

/SAM
Ace's
Goading
Brutal
Hagneia
Houyi's
Rajas
Rose
Hoard
Tactical

TP in +51, 19.6 returns.
WS in /SAM, Brutal, Rajas, Rose, Hoard, Tactical, Houyi's, +38 for 17.9 + 1.3's, 23.1 four hits, 24.4 five hits, miss-tolerant,WSing in Tactical though, hence 'prototype'. All it needs is an STP body, legs, or head (Preferably Phorcy's legs/head or Murzim Corazza) which cleans up the TP phase and drops the WS need into the 20s. I could probably find a substitution in my current gear or some other piece to get Tactical out of my WS set at least.

Also, that's why Murzim body is better than Enif body. +6 STP and 4% Haste. F*cking e-peen whores and their quad attack fetish... might as weill be 4% DA which means 'who gives a sh*t?'

Edit: Forgot I was using my DRK/MNK spellcast instead, which is that full STP load instead of WSing in Bomb Core and such.

Edited, Aug 12th 2012 10:15am by Raelix

From Busa's thread:



Pretty much optimal sets before Limbus rework, so I'd start from these. Screw adaberk.


And before you tear into why I used the word 'optimal', it's because it matches the +Acc on a good WS set too iirc.

Edited, Aug 12th 2012 11:08am by Raelix

Does Qilin resist Souleater or something? I can't figure out why my Reso average dropped 40% compared to an Aello run yesterday with roughly the same buffs.

Fulgurante finish, Houyi's Gorget and Porthos byrnie all in a week! woop

Agreed but I think we would need an alliance for that fight no? Also...why the @#%^ do I see so many mother @#%^ers choosing Enif instead of Murzim body?