Sanguine BladeFollow

Here's hoping it's actually a status drain. Something along the lines of absorb acc and I'm happy.

HP Drain would certainly help in solo situations. What I'm curious about is how effective it's going to be and if I'm going to need yet another set of gear to make it worthwhile. If we can get something that works well with Atonement, it would be great.

For solo situations, though, it can be quite a boon. That much less stress off the mp pool.

I'm going to wait to pass judgment on it, as well, until after we've actually seen it in use. Until then, we've only got speculation at best.

If it is on Pld/Dnc then for emergency heal you're really better off just using Waltz considering the tp you would be spending.

That's all dependant on how bad /rdm refresh and spikes get nerfed.

I use /rdm for phalanx and stoneskin, which frees up my tp for atonement and chivalry. MDB helps and so do bar- spells.

I understand that, but I actually find that Phalanx + Stoneskin makes up for a LOT of the curing. The hard part is getting the practice to get stoneskin back up. If I'm only dealing with one mob, though (preferably non-MNK), I've gotten it to the point that interruption is a non-issue.

I really dislike the damage output reduction from /DNC. It's a personal thing. I also hate feeling like I HAVE to work to keep hate - it's just not nearly as effective as /RDM. I'll grant that it's better than /WAR, but /RDM just provides much better tools from damage reduction to better CE and VE spells. I know it's a preference thing - I'm just sharing mine.

The fact that /RDM is going to get more potent in the near future has only given me MORE reason to want to stay /RDM.

You're going to lose hate regardless of subjob. We do a great job of capping out VE, but our CE takes a huge blow, especially if we're blood tanking. Other jobs just pump out too much damage, so even keeping capped VE makes it hard for us to have hate. You're right that it's not a huge deal. Again, I've just personally found that I'd rather play with /RDM than /DNC - /DNC seems like too much work for the gains you get AND decreases your damage potential significantly. To each their own.

A dual-wielded Vorpal with meat (or even pizza for evasive mobs or a new BLU 75) is a pretty effective weaponskill; I don't know that I'd call its output "meager." Against anything where Vorpal's number's drop off, the BLU isn't going to be using tp for weaponskills anyway. BLU also gets some very mp-efficient cures, so Sanguine Blade would have to cure a lot before damage output from mp while curing with tp would be worse than damage output with tp and curing with spells.

wait....wut?

We were right. This is from Tummie's .DAT mining thread.



Edited, Jun 21st 2010 4:21pm by CarthRDM

Oh, Voncrown and his sword wielding DRK. Needs moar evisceration, amirite?

So has anyone had a chance to use this weaponskill yet? Does it do anything approaching respectable damage?

That's approximately as disappointing as I expected it would be. Between chivalry and /DNC I'm pretty sure that's a weaponskill that I'll never ever ever use. Thanks for the info! <3

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The problem is that PLD lack decent amounts of mag.att bonus/INT gear that also happens to carry MND around. That and RDM actually has less mag.att. bonus than BLU. Blu can set native tier I for 20, use two self buffs for another 30, and has access to quite a bit of it(most of the stuff RDM has BLU is also on the list), like yigit set, morrigan's, cobra set, and other various stuff that everyone has access to. The only reason BLU never nuke is because most of their nukes suck, and the ones that don't, like breath spells, aren't based on their magic stats. This and the fact that RDM can't use it without sacrificing slots for sword skill, slots that could be used for more mag.att bonus.

This new ws wasn't bad, but it takes a LOT of work for PLD and RDM to get it to deal decent damage. BLUs already have two spell buffs to get their mag.att bonus over RDM by 26 points. After that, RDMs can't catch up in gear alone simply because BLU starts at a higher point than RDM and their gear scales similarly.








PLDs got screwed with this ws >.>

I'm a little confused here, Dragoon got a skewer+1 in Nyzul (Drakesbane) but that isn't AoE (Sonic Thrust is, sort of an AoE, not in the traditional sense. I'm not sure what it's damage is like though)

So, they kinda won twice. :x And yeah, DRK lost twice (maybe 3 times, I've yet to see what Herculean Slash is like ;;)