Avalon BreastplateFollow

Theres been lots of talk of it in the past, but not much now.

The general reason is that its mostly a half-way piece to compensate for not swapping. You melee better idling in a hauby, and get better hate on spells/abilities in something like an IR Haubert. The -5% magic is very minimal for most fights in the game, and you can get something like a coral harness +1 for way cheaper and just swap it on before a spell/attack hits you.

The best stat on the avalon is the mind for a chivalry/stoneskin set, and most people just use the 4 mind from adaman body and stay happy with it.

As mentioned by both of the above posters, 5 mil is way too high of a price tag for a second best piece for the three categories it really helps in. Hauby +1 is probably the PLD's best TP piece with side grades of this, Ares, and a few other pieces I know I'm forgetting. The only thing it shines as is as a MDT piece, but Iron Ram Hauberk has MDB (not the same thing, but still helpful) and Coral Scalemail has a lower MDT rating. Both of those are MUCH cheaper (and you'll want the IR for enmity, anyway).

If it were the same price as a Hauby, I probably would have bought it. And this is coming from a guy who earned at least 1 mil a week from repeatedly farming avatars (yes, I had enough accounts to make it worthwhile). Hauby is only down 1 accuracy from it but has attack AND accuracy, so the PLD will hit for more than 0 more often. And the +1 is just THAT much better.

It seems like a great Hybrid piece for overall stats but as was said its for people that don't wanna swap better gear in. i think its down to 3 mil on bahamut now but still way too high for its application.

On a side note its one of the best /dnc pieces we can get. 7 vit 7 chr is a decent boost to waltz and the 13 acc boost for tp gain and landing steps. but still not worth the price tag.

And on a side note what about that Corselt? seems like a half assed attempt at a semi melee/MACCatk boost armor. I can see an OK aplication for drks but its pretty fail for pld unless the resist silence is 100% lol. A +1 would have a decent tp application but your still out 2 acc 2 atk and 5 str/dex of a hauby.

Corselet +1
[Body] All Races
DEF: 45 Accuracy +8 Attack +8
Enhances "Resist Silence" effect
"Magic Atk. Bonus" +9
Magic Accuracy +9
Lv. 71 PLD / DRK

Anyone own one who feels like commenting?

along with the Assault Breastplate,I think they are just really cool looking

Why would Haub +1 be for PLD only? It's an awesome TP piece for SAM, DRK, WAR... Everyone who can wear it. It's beat out for WS's, sure, but you mostly want another piece for WS's, anyway.

Avalon's MDT- only matters on mobs that have spells. If you're not taking magic damage, it loses the only bright spot it has. There are very few mobs I idle in MDT- - when I needed it, I macro'd it in, just like everything else.

Agreed, 100%. In addition, MDT > MDEF for protecting yourself from damage. If you don't have Aegis' 25% (which basically takes you to MDT cap combined with a WHM's Shell V), and you aren't swapping in Iron Ram Lance (such as in preparation for a Citadel Buster), then you are going to get more out of this than I.R. Body (as far as I know). I stick with Avalon + Askar boots over I.R. Body/Boots. In the meanwhile, I take 9% less damage just in my TP build for Atonement, and that makes me happy because things slip through or wipe shadows vs HNM's all the time. It's the same reason I TP in Shadow Mantle, macroing it out for certain actions only (I can't predict when it will be needed but as a result of using it, I have a library of screenshots of HNM TP moves hitting me for 0 that proves the value).

I think Avalon is the only way to "keep your seatbelt on", if you catch my drift, without giving up a TP piece that actually has value.

Edited, Oct 29th 2009 4:19am by NatePrawdzik

I think you're underrating a Hauby+1 and overrating an Avalon.

The few points of ACC aren't really the main draw of the Hauby+1 (Over an Avalon), it's the giant Attack boost, along with the STR to up your fSTR, to keep you from hitting for 0's. (Since, as you said, you're tanking HNMs, where not hitting for 0's is much harder than easier targets like Sky Gods and Limbus bosses).

Now I'll be the first to say, if your concern is staying alive and you're facing an onslaught of magic damage, obviously use the Avalon, but don't try to justify it being a better DD piece, the math says otherwise.

Personally, I idle in Ares's Cuirass unless I don't need the benefit of the Refresh, then I'll use a Hauby +1.

I don't own an Avalon because I can't justify spending 5-6m for a piece that will only give me the benefit of -5% MDT, when I can already cap MDT on anything that I need to. (And, IR body is free, and gives as very similar amount of damage mitigation).

If Avalon was free, I'd probably use it for a MDT setup, but for 5m I can buy a lot of things that offer me a greater return on my investment.