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#1 Sep 21 2009 at 5:56 AM Rating: Good
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Currently leveling (2k ~~> 67) & curious about any Veterans experiences.

I am in the habit of carrying Hi-ethers & Pots & seem to remember getting hate using them & am wondering if anyone uses these ?

Also thinking about Curaga Earring for same purpose... Just for emergency obviously, when no abilities up & hate scattered.

I'm pre-merited on Sword,Crit,Str so I'm near the top of the DD scale for PLD & kinda wondering if its better to just keep swinging away ? (due to DPS loss from item use)

Thanks for any input or experiences.
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#2 Sep 21 2009 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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The amount of hate you get from most foods isn't worth it. The only item I'd consider spamming might be mulsum if my MP isn't as good as it should be. It is used quickly and doesn't lock you down that much.

A lot of your hate will come from DD, but not all of it. You could probably do a more detailed analysis, but I'm pretty sure items will lose out over the long run in most cases.
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#3 Sep 21 2009 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm pre-merited on Sword,Crit,Str so I'm near the top of the DD scale for PLD & kinda wondering if its better to just keep swinging away ? (due to DPS loss from item use)


For the most part then, yes, this will be better.

Curaga Earring might be good otherwise, but most people I've asked about it say that it 1) takes too much time to use, and 2) it's too hard to use effectively against any mob that doesn't AoE (and since parties obviously only fight colibri nowadays...)
#4 Sep 21 2009 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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Curaga earring takes about 8 seconds to use, definately not worth it.
High pots for emergencies i suppose, but not as a hate tool.
High ethers are nice party addition (Inbetween fights) to keep the xp rolling.
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#5 Sep 21 2009 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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KK cool thanks for the input ^^
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#6 Sep 27 2009 at 11:52 PM Rating: Default
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Nooooooo don't do it galka get back to the minessss.
#7 Sep 28 2009 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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Being agreesive with your timers(provoke/flash/warcry/etc) and macroing any enmity(haste for flash if any) will give you a good amount of hate to work with.

I use to make a macro for each member of my pt, for curing. That way any one pulling hate I would give them a cure. Jobs that I deemed would pull the most hate if any, I would make a 2nd macro cure for them with a higher tier. Macroing the spells for me made it easier to just press the macro and then focus on other things rather than scrolling through spells and targeting around etc.

Knowing when to use your hate tools is also something to work on. If you lose hate when the mobs about to die, you dont need to provoke it or anything as the next pull, you might not have it ready to start the fight with a hefty spike hate.

Bring meds whenever possible, juices,refresh types, anything that helps you with MP management til you can recieve refresh(even then I still bring them for back up) can help. Ailment items work well too like antidotes. A lot of the juice mats are relatively cheap to get or farm for. Ive seen a lot of plds craft them while waiting for gather or if resting during pulls,afks etc. Youd be surprised how often I didnt get refreshed....with a rdm. Or if you are unlucky and only whm, juices help.

Small stuff like this will help strengthen your hate. This is w/o calculating any damage potential you are trying to achieve, remember a PLDs job is to tank, but you can tank and add damage w/o sacrifing anything needed to tank(reduce damage).
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