Tips on tanking OmegaFollow

I will be volunteered to tank Omega tomorrow and I would like to know a few tips. Should I mainly full time shield skill+ gear or will I be TPing any? First time to do Omega just dont want to mess up ;/

He counters in case you're not aware, so if you engage be prepared to lose a couple shadows from that. Like Tyjet said, though, fully debuffed the guy attacks like he's moving through molasses. Just make sure you're capable of generating enmity quickly whenever he resets your hate.

Depending on your group size, your shell may fight him while trying to control his TP gain rate. So ask your shell leader if you should be meleeing. His counter can also make meleeing problematic.

For your first couple runs I'd advise against meleeing, honestly.

A good strong HP swap cureset, as mentioned is the main thing you need.

With practice, I found that I could actually avoid Pile Pitch. At first, it took a lot of filtering of the chat log - I only wanted to see when Omega was doing stuff to me. I didn't even usually watch what I was doing in the chat log.

One memorable Omega, I was dual tanking with a good friend. Due to a few really freak occurrences (no BRD, haste being missed too often, and a twice countered double attacked Joyeuse catching my friend with shadows down), I found myself as the only tank with a really upset Omega with a lack of debuffs. I tanked him solid for the 5 minutes. When haste went down, I simply said, "Haste." and usually got about 4 of them cast on me. It WAS a thing of beauty. The ironic part was that when my buddy got back up and started cotanking again, I ended up getting killed due to relaxing from my intense state and catching a countered double attack from my Joyeuse and taking roughly 1400 damage in a split second. He then got the joy of solo tanking for the last 30 seconds of Omega's life. (Second PLD down... 20%... ZERG ZERG ZERG!)

Not sure at what percentage of his HP it is, but probably roughly around 10-5% hell get up on his 2 legs and from there on out, he seems to really hit hard. I remember him DA countering me and that 2nd counter going through and hitting me for 600 damage along with a crit for 500 or more. At that mark, hes like a little rage omega imo, seems to spam hate reset move and counter more. I generally stop tping at that stage as atonement wont do anything anyhow when hes on 2 legs. Its not really hard, but most ppl like to just sit there and farm his pods, so ya.

The rest of the fight hes very easy with the right debuffs and buffs to you. Theres nothing really dangerous about him if you keep your shadows up. Make sure your whm removes his petrifying move if you get hit with it though. His throat stab move isnt dangerous, because it knocks you back, while leaving you with hardly any HP, you wont be getting hit due to hate reset and too far away from an AoE. Best thing to do is sentinel+ cure bomb yourself , flash and get back on that hate.

- He doesn't double attack, however he does counter your attacks. Take caution when meleeing.

- @ 25% unless your zerging him down, this is when you'll start to full kite; its required to avoid colossal blow (it won't kill you, but will take you down to very low health and full hate reset) Its easy to run out of range, unless you've stopped to lay a cure IV bomb on someone.

- When kiting just use /as on omega to see if hate is on you or your co-tank. If on you continue to run and put up shadows like normal, otherwise can perform hate generating moves. Its important to stress shadows in this mode, any hits getting through is 600 dmg easy, crits will do more. This also will drain your hate value tremendously getting smacked for this much.

- Don't be afraid to Invincible if you think your going to die. Someone not pulling a pod spawn off fast enough can make quick work of you, as they hit for the 600 amount too, that +omega on 2 legs isn't ideal, you get caught like that with shadows down and people not paying attention, its easy to die.


Hope this helps.

It wasn't aimed at you so much more as just a general statement; I've had the same thing happen to me with Omega and it is not pretty lol.

He goes into his final phase at 25%, as Naix said. This isn't his normal 2-leg phase. You're correct that prior to 25%, 2 legs means he's 90+% resistant to magic damage, so Atonement won't do anything. After 25% however, he's only 50% resistant to both magical and physical, so Atonement will cap around 375 with full hate. Can't say I've ever noticed a significantly increased counter rate in this phase, but its a hard thing to eyeball.

Also at 25% it would seem like he spams hate reset, but that's just because at that point he only has 3 TP moves: Colossal Blow (hate reset), Laser Shower (frontal AoE), and Pod Ejection. This is opposed to the 4 or 5 moves he has in normal 2-leg form, along with the fact that he doesn't use hate reset in 4-leg form.

This will depend on the group. My Limbus group never kited, and we never lost, we just dual tanked + stunned. Two on-the-ball BLMs will be able to stun nearly every TP move (Stun should be up, just very short window to actually cast), including Colossal Blow. With two tanks, it's pretty rare that you'll completely lose it.

For me I found that tanking with joytoy dd gear and acc food worked best. I duo tank with a ninja and with there new ja and /drk hate is harder to share with just hate gear and magic. I went a little overboard last time and tanked most of the fight using atonement on 4 legs and swift on two and got myself killed (the nin gave me a hard time about the last omega about hate so that's why I wasn't sharing hate as much as I could have). Over all really easy fight with good support. Done this fight with 7 people and was easy still. Just try out the different tanking style and see what works best for your group and you. Sorry for any errors this is done from my iPhone. Edit: if you are going to be solo tanking probably best to just stick with enm+ gear hp and magic. If duo tanking less to worry about with meleing.

Edited, Sep 9th 2009 1:52pm by Aydel

I tanked Omega in full DD set. Joyeuse, Koenig, Walahra, PCC, Suppa, Ethereal, Hauby+1, Homam, Rajas, Accring, Amemet+1, Swift, Homam, Homam. Eat sushi and get Atonement out!

It's a blast, that fight was pretty awesome. As long as your support doesn't fail you, this is definately the way to go. Omega has low HP, and doing 300-500 Atonement really helps damage and hate.

Odd cause my experience shows the exact opposite. I'll check it down again on next omega, make sure pile pitch isn't the cause of low damage, but I'm pretty sure that when it's magic damage resistant, I deal much less damage.

Never forget that while non-elemental, atonement damage is still considered magical. (easy to check it out on ultima, you can't TP on same shield phase that you can WS on)

The faster you can drop his HP into range, the more pod farming time you buy for yourself.

So basically you want to get him into pod mode, which preferably is the final form for the sake of streamlining your fight, as quickly as possible. After that he'll pop one every 5min.

Normally we straight tank him with 2 PLD/nin. We put the mages in the center of the circle, the melee on the outside of the circle, and Omega in between. The tanks stand so that it faces neither melee nor mage, but in this configuration nobody can pull hate from behind as long as tanks have hate. Also, the advantage is if a melee or mage pulls hate, the tanks are not behind it when turning it back. You can drop him to 10% HP with a decent setup in under 5min, leaving the rest of the time to farm. Use 2hrs early to drop him fast, then make sure everyone holds back - if he climbs over 10%, apply DoT's and/or Atonement. If he drops under 5%, turn around until he gets to a safer HP total. Once he's at 10%, melee can stop attacking and start taking ZNM photos worth 100 points.

We don't kite at all as it eats into farming time and is generally unnecessary.