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#1 Feb 23 2012 at 1:43 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not a career warrior, but I've geared it pretty well and think the next big upgrade excluding randomness of VW drops would be an empyrean. But people in my LS keep saying that Ukon is worthless now that it was nerfed. Is this true? :/

On paper the nerf didn't look that bad. And LS people won't elaborate more on the "suckage" of ws than that one guy with Ukon had problems breaking 3k (on what? with what buffs? used food or no? what gear? etc etc).

I know it was severely overpowered before (to the point that you're king of the parse no matter how much you gimp it up), but did SE go too far and completely nerf it now? Or is it still the best weapon for war? If anyone owning an Ukon could reply, that'd be great, before I bug friends to come farm glavoid with me. :) Thank you.

P.S. SE's transfer system has issues, so no test server for me. :( Otherwise I'd try it myself.
#2 Feb 23 2012 at 10:40 AM Rating: Excellent
As someone that uses WAR extensively both before and after the adjustment, I can say that while the adjustment to Ukko's Fury was noticeable, it wasn't profound by any means. It is still an extremely powerful weaponskill, easily our best still in most circumstances (barring something like Mighty Strikes) and still dishes out large numbers both inside and outside of Abyssea.
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#3 Feb 23 2012 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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Sharain wrote:
I'm not a career warrior, but I've geared it pretty well and think the next big upgrade excluding randomness of VW drops would be an empyrean. But people in my LS keep saying that Ukon is worthless now that it was nerfed. Is this true? :/

On paper the nerf didn't look that bad. And LS people won't elaborate more on the "suckage" of ws than that one guy with Ukon had problems breaking 3k (on what? with what buffs? used food or no? what gear? etc etc).

I know it was severely overpowered before (to the point that you're king of the parse no matter how much you gimp it up), but did SE go too far and completely nerf it now? Or is it still the best weapon for war? If anyone owning an Ukon could reply, that'd be great, before I bug friends to come farm glavoid with me. :) Thank you.

P.S. SE's transfer system has issues, so no test server for me. :( Otherwise I'd try it myself.


The reason we have nerfs in the first place is the propensity of the playerbase to spread myths, that by any other name would be lies.

First: The people in your LS are idiots if they think everytime something gets adjusted by a minute degree, it goes from being "king of the parse" to "worthless". Then again, most of the playerbase is this way. That is why for years when WAR wasn't even adjusted it went from awesome to worthless to awesome again, in the eyes of the playerbase.

Second: An gimped Ukon war was never king of the parse and neither are other gimped empyrean/relic/mythic holders. I was easily beating Ukon war's with gear that was as not as good as mine in other slots before I got Ukon. Now, I'm farther ahead. Granted there are not that many Warrior's who go to the trouble of getting a Ukon and don't have other good gear.

Vlor is right on all other accounts. It's still our best WS in all but 2-hour scenarios (Don't neglect the +STR on the upgrades either - people pay basically 1.5M extra for a single +2 of STR in ring slots, e.g., Flame -> Pyrosoul).

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