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#1 Dec 07 2011 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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I remember there was a big discussion on 5 vs 6 hit I think and what we gave up for STP gear. Was there ever a clear winner?

My war was just the red proc job while I was working on Ukko's, but now it's time to get serious about the gear.

Any tips to optimal tp, WS, and even pdt/mdt sets would be greatly appreciated. Or if people are up for the discussion (again) ill gladly post what I have so far.

Also on a side note, any tips / suggestions for getting Zelus tiara, I've been putting it off as long as I can it just looks really nasty getting pops and the nm itself. Might just end up brewing just to get it over with...

Thanks! :)
#2 Dec 07 2011 at 6:30 AM Rating: Default
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It's really going to depend on buffs; At 90 6 hit was generally superior to 5 hit and more flexible; while some options have improved assuming accuracy isn't an issue (all the time inside and varies outside depending on what you use War for) 5 hit is fairly close to or ahead of 6 hit, but it's not worth using if you're not willing to eat Arrabiato.


A decent group could kill Panto at 90, just pay attention and don't heal him during TP or WS or he might 2 hour, that's the only reason the fight is annoying. The chariot is fairly easy, Triturator is just proc and kill fast before he 2hours too often.


Current best sets would probably be:


Restraint Down Acc Capped:

Ukon/Claymore/x/Ravager's
Fazheluo Helm+1/Rancor (swap with Ravager's Gorget if the +DT is a problem)/Brutal/Ravager's
Fazheluo R. Mail/Augmented Seiryu's Kote STP+5 Crit+3(Perle)/Rajas/Tyrant's
Atheling/Ninurta's/Ravager's+2/Ravager's+2


Restraint Down Acc Uncapped:

Ukon/Claymore/x/Ravager's
Fazheluo Helm+1/Rancor (swap with Agasaya's/Ziel Charm if the +DT is a problem or more accuracy is needed)/Brutal/Ravager's
Armada Hauberk (STP+6 DA+3 Acc+7)/Perle/Rajas/Tyrant's
Atheling/Phasmida/Ravager's+2/Ravager's+2


Restraint Up:

Ukon/Claymore/x/Ravager's
Zelus Tiara/Rancor (swap with Ravager's Gorget if the +DT is a problem)/Brutal/Ravager's
Armada Hauberk (STP+6 DA+3 Acc+7)/Ravager's Mufflers+2/Rajas/Tyrant's
Atheling/Ninurta's/Ravager's+2/Ravager's+2


WS (No accuracy issues, Zerk down and/or Low attack):

Ukon/Claymore/x/Ravager's
Ravager's +2 (Mekira-Oto+1 with BR up)/Rancor/Brutal/Vulcan's Pearl
Grim Cuirass +1/Hecatomb +1(Crit damage+4)/Rajas/Strigoi
Atheling/Elebelt/Ravager's+2 [inside] Heca+1 (Crit+3) [outside]/Ravager's+2


WS (No accuracy issues, Zerk up/high attack):


Ukon/Claymore/x/Ravager's
Ravager's +2 (Mekira-Oto+1 with BR up)/Rancor/Brutal/Vulcan's Pearl
Grim Cuirass +1/Hecatomb +1(Crit damage+4) [BR]/Rajas/Strigoi
Atheling/Elebelt/Bellicus (ws damage+2 crit+2)/Ravager's+2



PDT:

Ukon/Claymore/x/Angha
Chersos/Wiglen/Dark (PDT)/Colossus's
Mekira/Magma/Dark/Dark
Mollusca/Flume/Darksteel+1 (ASA)/Jingang


MDT:

Ukon/Claymore/x/x
Zelus/Twilight/Merman/Merman
Nocturnus/Tjukurrpa/Dark/Dark
Colossus's/Ninurta's or Phasmida/Ravager's+2/Ravager's+2

MDT changes slightly depending on ring augments.



Edited, Dec 10th 2011 2:53am by Neisan
#3 Dec 07 2011 at 7:38 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, a lot has changed... And we have another level cap increase soon lol. Wow well thank you sooooooo much for the very detailed reply, I have a lot more work to do than I thought... Not looking forward to trying to get good synergy augments, any tips on trying to get an ebony these days?? Sit in da and beg? Anyone still do ein??? Hmmmmm
#4 Dec 07 2011 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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Fafhogg is force pop, you have to do KSNM for Faf pop > pop FAf > pray TH does something at high level and you get Nid pop, or get a small group and do Ein (not sure on numbers needed for this anymore but don't need as many as 75 cap did).
#5 Dec 08 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Any suggestion for VW gear alternatives? Body piece is real nice doubt the crafted version will substitute...
#6 Dec 10 2011 at 12:46 AM Rating: Good
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The crafted version works as well in place of R. Mail at least, the sphere affect isn't that important...

Mekira crafted version is Physical Damage Taken- not Damage Taken- but otherwise serves the same purpose unless you get caught in the wrong set for some reason.

Edited, Dec 10th 2011 2:47am by Neisan
#7 Dec 10 2011 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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Now I need to ask your opinion lol... I feel bad after all your helpful and very detailed responses... Is it worth it to try to get the best of the best at this point with another level increase coming shortly?
#8 Dec 10 2011 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
Depending on how easy they are to obtain, some of the new Askar +5 pieces will likely become strong contenders for the best TP pieces in their respective slots, or at least better than what is currently available (since we don't know what all else they may add in the version update).

Likewise, there are a couple pieces that will stand in strong contention as being better options for WS than what we currently have available, so waiting till we see what all comes out (especially since the update is only a few days away) before you dump a lot of gil into it may not be a bad option.

Edited, Dec 10th 2011 12:01pm by Vlorsutes
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#9 Dec 10 2011 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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Whoa! What?? I haven't been keeping up very good lately but wow a few days away?? Ugh so much to get done!! Lol. Didn't realize it was that close...

Yea it seems it's all about the augments which pieces will be best..

But I guess there is always new gear to get... But def going to wait until after the update and then even longer for all the price gouging to go down lol
#10 Dec 11 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
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I am of the opinion unless you have nothing else to do I wouldn't spend too much time trying to perfectly max out sets since as Vlor wrote, quite a few pieces are looking to become obsolete next level cap. The exception is haste belts, no new good haste belts have been revealed so far. For DT sets nothing replaces Mekira body either.



Edited, Dec 11th 2011 6:15pm by Neisan
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