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#1 Apr 05 2011 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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ok so i just recently lvl'ed warrior and keep retalition up full time while skilling other weapons.
this got me think could you use war/mnk and GH,retalition,counterstance and tank like a mnk would.
reason for this is warrior has more options for PDT gear and could be the only person attacking the mob.
personaly i do have mnk at 90 w/ 77% counter rate and this would only net a warrior 70% w/ me guessing retalition giving 10% counterrate.
i havent tried this yet wondering if anyone has tried? please give any feed back you have.
#2 Apr 06 2011 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't think Counter and Retaliation will really work like that(+Counter should have nothing to do with retaliating, two different things). Pretty sure Counterstance won't stack with retaliation at all (I've not tried it myself, just read that somewhere).

Not doubting that War can tank some things, but this doesn't seem to be the way to do it.
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#3 Apr 07 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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WAR tanking depend on 2 things for me (based on my experiences).

1. Deal I enough damage to keep hate on me ?
2. Do I have a WHM cure bombing me ?
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1. Depends on who's around me. WAR is my 3rd job so it's far from being a "top" DD gear wise (like I'll never get Ukon and not on 1st line to get a Widowmaker).
2. Depend if there's one WHM and how he/she play / gear / atma...

Oh but so far, to assure 1. /SAM > /NIN.
Seigan + Retaliation increase my DMG and so my hate compare to the damage mitigation of constant casting utsusemi (and so not dealing damage).

MNK15 here so can't try counterstance but would like to. Seems nice on paper.

Edited, Apr 7th 2011 2:30pm by Neraya
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#4 Apr 07 2011 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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In abyssea, anything that can deal good damage can tank as long as your WHM has good atmas and doesn't play like a tard. Outside of abby, everything is so easymoded since we gained 15 levels on everything I suspect a WAR could tank anything out there with a lil bit of support.
#5 Apr 07 2011 at 10:58 PM Rating: Decent
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i duo with a war on my whm. we havent tried hero's abyssea nm's yet but the other zones we have no problems. we used to use his nin but since his ukon its always war typically because its really good damage. hate has never been a problem except for hate reset mobs(which will always cause problems), his dd is great, his tanking is good but i think thats more of a reflection of me rather than him. he can proc red and sometimes blue. but like this guy said
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In abyssea, anything that can deal good damage can tank as long as your WHM has good atmas and doesn't play like a tard

its probably not as clear cut as that, but pretty much right.
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#6 Apr 16 2011 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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WAR is fun on Chloris... Retaliation against his 100fists makes for a very dead Chloris.
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#7 Apr 17 2011 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
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would the -pdt gaxe be a good route to take if I want to use my war to mostly duo/trio some nms?
#8 Apr 18 2011 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, in my opinion. You sacrifice a relatively minor amount of damage in exchange for the ability to pretty easily cap your PDT.
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