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#1 Jan 28 2011 at 9:54 PM Rating: Decent
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After jumping on my WAR for a small abyssea NM hunt, I got to the zone and was somewhat overwhelmed by the many atma choices I had at my disposal. (I'm usually stuck going mage and don't get to go DD)

My role in the party was simply to DD but I also had to be wary of hate because it was a thief tanking. My atma choices were VV, RR and Apocalypse. Long story short, I pulled hate and unfortunately got pounded hard by that **** NM and died (pun intended). This made me rethink my atma choices and I'm kind of stuck on which ones I should be using. I know sh*t is situational, so I thought it might be beneficial to myself (and others) to compile an Atma list which should be used in various situations.

DD Role (Max Output)

Razed Ruins
Voracious Violet/Alpha and the Omega
Apocalypse


DD Role (Holding Back)

Razed Ruins
Gnarled Horn
Mounted Champion?

Non-DD, Proc-Only Role

Voracious Violet
Sea Daughter
Sundering Slash

Tanking Role

Mounted Champion
Vicissitude?
Gnarled Horn?

Soloing

Razed Ruins
Mounted Champion
Apocalypse


These are just a few of my thoughts, but I'd like to edit this list and make it more comprehensive based on the community's responses. ^^



Edited, Feb 1st 2011 7:04pm by LegendarycloudCS
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#2 Jan 28 2011 at 10:02 PM Rating: Default
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For soloing I would recommend Regen atmas because War soloing is a myth (unless by solo you mean Fana drink and kill the mob before it kills you).

Hate to say it but in most PUG using RR VV and Apoc is going to pull hate no way around it, especially if you have half a brain about game mechanics (fulltime AF feet wars etc., not saying you personally but I've seen that in PUG). Could use GH as a somewhat defensive option, or plaguebringer for some STP coupled with a little regen, or forego either VV or Apoc entirely for either an HP/Regen Atma.

Edited, Jan 29th 2011 12:02am by Neisan
#3 Jan 28 2011 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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For soloing I was more thinking a /dnc sub to add some survivability.
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#4 Jan 29 2011 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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~350 Waltz3's when you have 3000+HP isn't going to cut it. For soloing you are gonna need 1 regen atma, then RR/VV. In fact, for anything WAR ever does, at least 99% of the time, you should start at RR/VV and just figure out what your 3rd should be. I don't think you need a "holding back" atma set.. Honestly it should be you or a MNK or NIN tanking, setup for best damage output and let the mages with 15/tic refresh and -50 emnity from atmas shove cure 5/6 into you.
#5 Jan 29 2011 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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No point in thinking about holding back, and if you're wanting to tank the max output will generate more hate which is ultimately what you should be looking for. Also, killing things faster is actually a form of damage mitigation.

As far as soloing; I'd suggest a regen atma along with the better DD related atmas as well as /DNC. Warrior is one of the worst jobs to solo with, so increasing its survivability is the best way to go.
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#7 Jan 29 2011 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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For most Abyssea stuff now I go with VV, Sea Daughter, and Sundering Slash. We're not trying to feed tons of tp to NMs, but we do want to proc as much weaknesses as possible. 10tp/tic helps with that.
#8 Jan 30 2011 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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If your only job is to stay away and run into proc a red, sure thats fine. If you are actually meleeing at all that is a terrible atma combo. And yeah, 95% of the time I get apoc as my thrid atma, though there are some rare occasions I dont.

Edited, Jan 30th 2011 2:06pm by ShamanTaru
#9 Jan 31 2011 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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ShamanTaru wrote:
If your only job is to stay away and run into proc a red, sure thats fine. If you are actually meleeing at all that is a terrible atma combo. And yeah, 95% of the time I get apoc as my thrid atma, though there are some rare occasions I dont.

Edited, Jan 30th 2011 2:06pm by ShamanTaru


I don't know.. nearly unlimited TP is really nice. I haven't done the math, but ~2000 dmg Raging Rush every couple seconds is pretty nice.
#10 Jan 31 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Weaponskil damage isn't your only damage.. your gimping your TP phase damage so much using that combination. Ill be busy WSing just as much as you, but I'll be hitting the mob for my TP, and WSing for more than 2k.
#11 Jan 31 2011 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I doubt that. And I don't know what you do in Abyssea, but I mostly farm NMs where a lot of time is spent not engaged, usually just run in and WS. Giving some of the upper tier NMs tons of TP isn't a great idea.

Edited, Jan 31st 2011 9:13pm by Linku
#12 Jan 31 2011 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Me and a MNK tank pretty much everything. 13% slow from sea daughter is a monsterous DoT killer, and Razed Ruins is just godly for damage for any DD. Like I said in my OP, though.. if your ONLY job is to run in for WS, those atmas are ok.. though Razed Ruins would trump Sundering Slash for Raging Rush seeing as how it will drastically increase the crit rate and damage of your hits.

Edited, Jan 31st 2011 9:58pm by ShamanTaru
#13 Feb 01 2011 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
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LegendarycloudCS wrote:


DD Role (Max Output)

Razed Ruins
Voracious Violet
Apocalypse


If you're going for maximum DD output and have the healers to take care of you, then swap Atma of the Apocalypse for Atma of Alpha and Omega.
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#14 Feb 01 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
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Actually you would swap out VV if using Raging for A/O. Apoc is more Triple Attack than A/O.
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