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#1 Nov 19 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Seen a few of these on other jobs.

What you guys think?

I am hoping for at least 3 haste on hands.

My guess for the +1:

Hands Haste 3 DA 1 Acc 7 "Enhances Provoke"
Body Str 7 Vit 7 Enimity 5 DA 3 Att 10 Acc 10.

+2

Hands Haste 5 DA 3 Acc 10
Body Str 10 Vit 10 Enimity 8 DA 5 Attack 15 Acc 15
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#2 Nov 19 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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7% haste between the two would be ideal, in my opinion. Between that, and possibly competing with Adaberk would make the whole set awesome.

Edit: I do mean the +2s, of course.

Edited, Nov 19th 2010 12:55pm by lolgaxe
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#3 Nov 19 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Hands I'm figuring/hoping for 4-5% Haste for +1/+2.

Body I'm hoping for a solid DD body with a fair chunk of Store TP on it - something like Adaberk with +10 STP would be nice, but I'm not getting my hopes too high.

I think we will see Enhances Restraint on one of them. Hopefully they won't go with the Shield Mastery stuff, but it's possible - reason I'm saying that is that Ravager's so far has basically all covered post-Relic additions to WAR. We got Retaliation, which is enhanced by the +1/+2 feet. We got Fencer, which is enhanced by the legs, we got a trait to boost Crit damage, which is again on the feet.

While there may certainly be something else coming down the pipe to enhance, what we're left with for now is Restraint and the shield defense bonus/shield mastery traits.

Another angle too is that we will presumably have a third Ravager's accessory item. Thus far accessories have been for four slots - if you count the Relic item: Back, Waist, Neck, Ammo/Ranged. If SE doesn't buck that trend, I'd guess we're up for a mantle of some kind.
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#4 Nov 19 2010 at 3:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just to update without editing because I'm hopped up on caffeine, what I'm looking for at least is:

What was best at 75:
Head:  5% Haste 
Body:  STR:+10 DEX:+10 Accuracy 15 Attack 15 Evasion -10 
Hands: HP:+22 Attack 6 Haste 4% 
Legs:  DEX:+15 Haste 5% 
Feet:  DEX:+3 Accuracy 5 Attack 5 Haste 2%
Totaling: 16% Haste, STR:+10, DEX:+28, Accuracy 20, Attack 26.

What Ravager+2 is currently:
Head:  STR+8 VIT+8 Accuracy 14 Attack 14 Crit Rate +3% DA+4% 
Legs:  Attack 15 DA+5% Haste+7% 
Feet:  Accuracy 7 Haste +5% Crit Hit Damage+
Totaling: 12% Haste, STR:+8, VIT:+8, Accuracy 21, Attack 29, DA+9%

So really, another 2 STR, and I'd LOVE another 28 DEX, and another 4% Haste and you're basic statistically equal (Obviously ignoring the additional DA, Crit Rate and Damage, and ability enhancements/set bonuses) to the optimum set at 75. I don't think its unreasonable to think the last two pieces could have twenty-ish DEX and 4 haste. More would be better, obviously. It is like another twenty levels, after all. I can see much more accuracy and attack at the very least.


Edited, Nov 19th 2010 5:08pm by lolgaxe
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#5 Nov 19 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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As long as the hands have enough haste to replace dusk gloves, I don't care what else they have. Also, One of the pieces will probably enhance Restraint
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#6 Dec 06 2010 at 3:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Lady Jinte wrote:
As long as the hands have enough haste to replace dusk gloves, I don't care what else they have. Also, One of the pieces will probably enhance Restraint


I hope so, because at the current time i feel like restraint is useless. still cant tell if it actually does anything.
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#7 Dec 06 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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Warrior exclusive:
Widowmaker  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:124 Delay:504 STR+5 VIT+5 
Increases "Double Attack" damage 
Lv89 WAR  
 
Warlord's Axe  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
D118 Delay:488 VIT-3 AGI+5 Evasion+5 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Bravura  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:133 Delay:488 Accuracy+35 
"Metatron Torment" 
Additional effect: Impairs evasion 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Ukonvasara  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:131 Delay:482 STR+15 
"Ukko's Fury" 
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Maschu +2  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:126 Delay:504 
"Ukko's Fury" 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Kunlun +2  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:55 Delay:514 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Atlas +2  Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:117 Delay:482 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Sumeru +2  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:104 Delay:488 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Conqueror  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:129 Delay:504 
Augments "Berserk" IV 
"King's Justice" 
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk. 
Occasionally attacks twice 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Ravager's Lorica  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:62 Accuracy+6 Attack+6 
"Store TP"+2 
Lv89 WAR  
 
Rvg. Lorica +1  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:65 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 
Great Axe skill +5 "Store TP"+5 
Enhances "Blood Rage" effect 
Lv89 WAR 
 
Rvg. Lorica +2  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:68 Accuracy+20 Attack+20 
Great Axe skill +7 "Store TP"+8 
Enhances "Blood Rage" effect 
Set: Augments "Double Attack" 
Lv89 WAR  
 
Ravager's Mufflers  Rare Exclusive 
Hands 
DEF:27 STR+3 DEX+3 Accuracy+4 
Lv87 WAR  
 
Rvg. Mufflers +1  Rare Exclusive 
Hands 
DEF:30 STR+7 DEX+7 
Accuracy+9 Axe skill +3 
Enhances "Restraint" effect 
Lv87 WAR 
 
Rvg. Mufflers +2  Rare Exclusive 
Hands 
DEF:32 STR+9 DEX+9 
Accuracy+12 Axe skill +5 
Enhances "Restraint" effect 
Set: Augments "Double Attack" 
Lv87 WAR  
 
Ravager's Earring  Rare Exclusive 
Earring 
Attack+3 "Double Attack"+1% 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Fighter's Torque  Exclusive 
Neck 
 
     
Lv30 WAR 
Not the 7% haste I was hoping for, but the stats aren't too bad. Thief gets like 10% Haste between the two, and Dragoon gets an Adaberk. I'd probably use the body+2 over an Adaberk, but I think I would stick with Dusk+1 for hands (unless a better haste option I'm not seeing was available, of course.) That being said, that's still like a 1% Haste and a lot of base stat discrepancy. I'm not entirely sure in the end.

Full list
Twilight Mail  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:70 STR+15 DEX+15 VIT+15 AGI+15 
INT+15 MND+15 CHR+15 
Accuracy+25 Adds "Refresh" effect 
Set: Auto-Reraise 
Lv90 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG  
 
Twilight Helm  Rare Exclusive 
Head 
DEF:41 STR+10 DEX+10 VIT+10 AGI+10 
INT+10 MND+10 CHR+10 
Attack+25 Adds "Regen" effect 
Set: "Reraise III" 
Lv90 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG 
Kirin's Osode on STEROIDS.
Atheling Mantle  Rare Exclusive 
Back 
DEF:15 Attack+20 "Double Attack"+3% 
Lv89 WAR MNK RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC 
I like it.
Zelus Tiara  Rare Exclusive 
Head 
Evasion-5 Haste+8% 
Lv90 All Jobs
Hory clap.
Flame Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Snow Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Breeze Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Soil Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Thunder Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Aqua Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Light Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Shadow Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs
Gorgets for the waist. I wonder if they stack, though I kind of doubt it.
]Twilight Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:8 "Double Attack"+2% Haste+7% 
Lv90 MNK THF BST RNG NIN BLU COR PUP DNC  
FU SE.

Edited, Dec 6th 2010 2:48pm by lolgaxe
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#8 Dec 06 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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If only that earring had a few more attack, or even some STR, and at least 1% more double attack, I might want to wear it over what is currently available. Otherwise, everything else looks pretty **** good.
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#9 Dec 06 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Also, just came across this from the .dat mining link in the main forum:

Uther's Grip Rare Exclusive
STR+4 Great Axe skill +4
Scythe skill +4
Lv90 All Jobs

Gatta Strap +1
STR+3 DEX+3
Lv88 All Jobs

Not bad.
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#10 Dec 06 2010 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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wow I bet this stuff will be accompanied by some insane NM's. Cant wait to start kill stuff.
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#11 Dec 06 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Dam really wanted haste on hands. Oh well..
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#12 Dec 06 2010 at 4:33 PM Rating: Default
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EDIT: can hit 25% without hand armor using new head :/ 27% (overcapped) using bullwhip if you don't need goading's STP.

Edited, Dec 6th 2010 6:35pm by Neisan

Edited, Dec 6th 2010 6:37pm by Neisan
#13 Dec 06 2010 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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The body looks really good if you have a 488 delay GA as the extra stp is needed for achieving a lower hit build. If you use a 504 delay GA then it's not really needed. Guess I am glad to see my adaberk is still equal for top body (they really are nearly equal if stp is not needed). One will be slightly better than the other depending on if you are already at fStr cap before counting your body piece (AFv3 wining if you are already at fStr cap without body).

Edited, Dec 7th 2010 8:26pm by KWileyStyle
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#14 Dec 08 2010 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
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Oh where have you been the last 6 months? E-body is inferior to Perle Hauberk for TP/WS in Abyssea. Zahak's/Hachiryu beat both for Raging/Ukko's.
Also lets you 5 hit while maintaining capped/near capped haste with 504 delay GA without rose/attila's (while eating carbo /sam, otherwise you need rose/white tath).
Mind you outside you have a point.




Edited, Dec 8th 2010 1:33pm by Neisan
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Oh where have you been the last 6 months? E-body is inferior to Perle Hauberk for TP/WS in Abyssea. Zahak's/Hachiryu beat both for Raging/Ukko's.


Only if you lack haidate/af3 legs, but who the **** has ebody and no byakko's haidate?
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#16 Dec 08 2010 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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but who the **** has ebody and no byakko's haidate?
My linkshell for a while did. We did the Aery more often than sky, so our mages-now-leveling-melees ended up getting the abjuration before the haidates.
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#17 Dec 08 2010 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
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I didn't mean full set, in which case Perle wins since you need the body for full set, or Perle wins because it has Crit+ on it.
#18 Dec 08 2010 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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well on the topic sorta... i spend quite some time on ffxiah just putting together sets... for 90 would this be the best TP set available, /sam being.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/126261

ignore most of the comment with the page... i haven't changed some of it since i made the 85 set.

and also there is no link for the lvl 90 bravura.

Edited, Dec 8th 2010 6:11pm by killor318
#19 Dec 08 2010 at 9:31 PM Rating: Default
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Change grip to claymore/Rose if stp needed/strap if you can get away with it/pole if no other option.
#20 Dec 09 2010 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
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there is more than enough stp for 6 hit, and 5 hit is 30 more stp. i figured that grip would be nice because it gives 4 str 7 att and 4 acc, but pole would give 33% DA. i'm iffy towards
claymore.


Edited, Dec 9th 2010 1:12am by killor318
#21 Dec 09 2010 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
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Pole is greater than 1% less than 2% increase, around 1.6% or so, claymore is 2% with crit atmas, strap is ~3% if it doesn't break Xhit. that grip is pretty much a HQ danger grip and it was never in the running to begin with.

EDIT: Should be working on 5 hit regardless, even if it's a fake 5 hit (2 hits land on WS + 4 hits).

Edited, Dec 9th 2010 3:40pm by Neisan
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lolgaxe wrote:
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but who the **** has ebody and no byakko's haidate?
My linkshell for a while did. We did the Aery more often than sky, so our mages-now-leveling-melees ended up getting the abjuration before the haidates.


I did for about 6 months. But then I got B Haidate after going back to lolsky for the first time in years.
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