AF3 Body and Hands SpeculationFollow

Seen a few of these on other jobs.

What you guys think?

I am hoping for at least 3 haste on hands.

My guess for the +1:

Hands Haste 3 DA 1 Acc 7 "Enhances Provoke"
Body Str 7 Vit 7 Enimity 5 DA 3 Att 10 Acc 10.

+2

Hands Haste 5 DA 3 Acc 10
Body Str 10 Vit 10 Enimity 8 DA 5 Attack 15 Acc 15

Hands I'm figuring/hoping for 4-5% Haste for +1/+2.

Body I'm hoping for a solid DD body with a fair chunk of Store TP on it - something like Adaberk with +10 STP would be nice, but I'm not getting my hopes too high.

I think we will see Enhances Restraint on one of them. Hopefully they won't go with the Shield Mastery stuff, but it's possible - reason I'm saying that is that Ravager's so far has basically all covered post-Relic additions to WAR. We got Retaliation, which is enhanced by the +1/+2 feet. We got Fencer, which is enhanced by the legs, we got a trait to boost Crit damage, which is again on the feet.

While there may certainly be something else coming down the pipe to enhance, what we're left with for now is Restraint and the shield defense bonus/shield mastery traits.

Another angle too is that we will presumably have a third Ravager's accessory item. Thus far accessories have been for four slots - if you count the Relic item: Back, Waist, Neck, Ammo/Ranged. If SE doesn't buck that trend, I'd guess we're up for a mantle of some kind.

As long as the hands have enough haste to replace dusk gloves, I don't care what else they have. Also, One of the pieces will probably enhance Restraint

Warrior exclusive:

Widowmaker  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:124 Delay:504 STR+5 VIT+5 
Increases "Double Attack" damage 
Lv89 WAR  
 
Warlord's Axe  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
D118 Delay:488 VIT-3 AGI+5 Evasion+5 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Bravura  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:133 Delay:488 Accuracy+35 
"Metatron Torment" 
Additional effect: Impairs evasion 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Ukonvasara  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:131 Delay:482 STR+15 
"Ukko's Fury" 
Aftermath: Occ. deals double damage 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Maschu +2  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:126 Delay:504 
"Ukko's Fury" 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Kunlun +2  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:55 Delay:514 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Atlas +2  Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:117 Delay:482 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Sumeru +2  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:104 Delay:488 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Conqueror  Rare Exclusive 
Great Axe 
DMG:129 Delay:504 
Augments "Berserk" IV 
"King's Justice" 
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk. 
Occasionally attacks twice 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Ravager's Lorica  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:62 Accuracy+6 Attack+6 
"Store TP"+2 
Lv89 WAR  
 
Rvg. Lorica +1  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:65 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 
Great Axe skill +5 "Store TP"+5 
Enhances "Blood Rage" effect 
Lv89 WAR 
 
Rvg. Lorica +2  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:68 Accuracy+20 Attack+20 
Great Axe skill +7 "Store TP"+8 
Enhances "Blood Rage" effect 
Set: Augments "Double Attack" 
Lv89 WAR  
 
Ravager's Mufflers  Rare Exclusive 
Hands 
DEF:27 STR+3 DEX+3 Accuracy+4 
Lv87 WAR  
 
Rvg. Mufflers +1  Rare Exclusive 
Hands 
DEF:30 STR+7 DEX+7 
Accuracy+9 Axe skill +3 
Enhances "Restraint" effect 
Lv87 WAR 
 
Rvg. Mufflers +2  Rare Exclusive 
Hands 
DEF:32 STR+9 DEX+9 
Accuracy+12 Axe skill +5 
Enhances "Restraint" effect 
Set: Augments "Double Attack" 
Lv87 WAR  
 
Ravager's Earring  Rare Exclusive 
Earring 
Attack+3 "Double Attack"+1% 
Lv90 WAR  
 
Fighter's Torque  Exclusive 
Neck 
 
     
Lv30 WAR 

Not the 7% haste I was hoping for, but the stats aren't too bad. Thief gets like 10% Haste between the two, and Dragoon gets an Adaberk. I'd probably use the body+2 over an Adaberk, but I think I would stick with Dusk+1 for hands (unless a better haste option I'm not seeing was available, of course.) That being said, that's still like a 1% Haste and a lot of base stat discrepancy. I'm not entirely sure in the end.

Full list

Twilight Mail  Rare Exclusive 
Body 
DEF:70 STR+15 DEX+15 VIT+15 AGI+15 
INT+15 MND+15 CHR+15 
Accuracy+25 Adds "Refresh" effect 
Set: Auto-Reraise 
Lv90 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG  
 
Twilight Helm  Rare Exclusive 
Head 
DEF:41 STR+10 DEX+10 VIT+10 AGI+10 
INT+10 MND+10 CHR+10 
Attack+25 Adds "Regen" effect 
Set: "Reraise III" 
Lv90 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG 

Kirin's Osode on STEROIDS.

Atheling Mantle  Rare Exclusive 
Back 
DEF:15 Attack+20 "Double Attack"+3% 
Lv89 WAR MNK RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC 

I like it.

Zelus Tiara  Rare Exclusive 
Head 
Evasion-5 Haste+8% 
Lv90 All Jobs

Hory clap.

Flame Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Snow Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Breeze Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Soil Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Thunder Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Aqua Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Light Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs 
  
Shadow Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:7 "Conserve TP"+7 
Latent effect: Increases weapon skill 
accuracy and damage 
Lv87 All Jobs

Gorgets for the waist. I wonder if they stack, though I kind of doubt it.

]Twilight Belt  Rare Exclusive 
Waist 
DEF:8 "Double Attack"+2% Haste+7% 
Lv90 MNK THF BST RNG NIN BLU COR PUP DNC  

FU SE.

Edited, Dec 6th 2010 2:48pm by lolgaxe

Also, just came across this from the .dat mining link in the main forum:

Uther's Grip Rare Exclusive
STR+4 Great Axe skill +4
Scythe skill +4
Lv90 All Jobs

Gatta Strap +1
STR+3 DEX+3
Lv88 All Jobs

Not bad.

Dam really wanted haste on hands. Oh well..

The body looks really good if you have a 488 delay GA as the extra stp is needed for achieving a lower hit build. If you use a 504 delay GA then it's not really needed. Guess I am glad to see my adaberk is still equal for top body (they really are nearly equal if stp is not needed). One will be slightly better than the other depending on if you are already at fStr cap before counting your body piece (AFv3 wining if you are already at fStr cap without body).

Edited, Dec 7th 2010 8:26pm by KWileyStyle

Only if you lack haidate/af3 legs, but who the hell has ebody and no byakko's haidate?

I didn't mean full set, in which case Perle wins since you need the body for full set, or Perle wins because it has Crit+ on it.

Change grip to claymore/Rose if stp needed/strap if you can get away with it/pole if no other option.

Pole is greater than 1% less than 2% increase, around 1.6% or so, claymore is 2% with crit atmas, strap is ~3% if it doesn't break Xhit. that grip is pretty much a HQ danger grip and it was never in the running to begin with.

EDIT: Should be working on 5 hit regardless, even if it's a fake 5 hit (2 hits land on WS + 4 hits).

Edited, Dec 9th 2010 3:40pm by Neisan