WS gear suggestion in relation to occ. attacks X axes.Follow

Sup guys.

I'm trying to make the absolute best Dual wield warrior i can make. Why?? Because I still think Dual Wield war is freakin awesome and will be even better with DW3.

So, I went out and over the last 3 weeks, and ive obtained the Guichards Axe+1 with 8Dex and 14Acc, and the Richardet's axe+1 with Oat2-3x. First of all, let me say that at no point did I get discouraged, its crazy how much sh*t you gotta kill, but I think its going to be so worth it. With the higher and higher skill war now get with handaxes, I think it won't take long for dual axe to out do /ridill very soon. But thats neither here nor there.

Basically i have a few choices in gear now for my dual wield set and i'd like to rack your brains for a moment.
5/5 double attack, 8/8 handaxe merits.

TP really the main reason im posting, but I need to list both sets to show my issues.
Obviously rampage.

TP = http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7965/93188376.jpg

First choice of WS = http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4681/75295702.jpg

Second choice of WS = http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3034/rampagep.jpg

Basically it's heca hat, heca body, and af2+1 legs
VS. maat's cap, aurum cuirass, and haidate.

Is the loss of 14 STR really worth gaining +25dex since Rampage is a 30% str mod?
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Also taken from wiki that on offhand Single Attack rate to be roughly 42%~, Double Attack rate to be 32%~ and Triple Attack rate to be 22%. My friends have said i have a 6hit build easy on my war right now given these numbers. But I dont really parse much stuff. With 6.9tp a hit given my delay, it'd be 15/2 or 8 attack cycles for 100tp but with the offhand, wouldnt it be around 6? I dont have hard data here.

Been told I should ditch the chiv chain and get a fortitude torque because while gorgets may give higher dmg than torques, that torques are more consistent dmg.

and yes, unfortunately I know a lot of this stuff will change as we progress into af3+2. But i'd just like your thoughts, on what you think i can do now to be better.

Thanks.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 2:41am by Gippo

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 6:59pm by Gippo

Fortitude Torque isn't going to do anything for an Axe/Axe build. Temperance Torque is the Axe version you're thinking of. Still, Elemental Gorgets are going to be better for weapon skills.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 5:25am by lolgaxe

1 of each? Fire axe for low-endgame where acc is capped(dynamis,limbus,etc) and thunder axe for higher stuff where you need the extra acc(Abyssea,etc). War gets dual wield 3 at 90 and if you have suppa earring, means dual wield 4 at 90 from nin sub.

Just wondering how happy you are with this axe setup?

wow. check this out for a reward. 700 demons to this

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3271/24times.jpg

not sleeping tonight :(

Not saying im the first, but.... well. havent exactly seen these running around my server.

gonna take at least 5 hours of serious farm time to get this, probably longer, so it will be a few days till I get this done. Earlier in this thread i asked for gear suggestions, i may ask for a small critique for DW setup when these 2 axes are done.

rock on , by the way, is the tp return on a 2-4 weapon 40% > 30% > 20% > 10%? cant find sh*t on it.

nah, dnc is 49, but most of this sh*t is too annoying to solo. get a duo buddy.

600 undead solo? on war? no

This is a stupidly easy trial. The Eld Necropolis is full of the lowest lvl udead able to give exp. You'll also find MNK's, BST's and other WAR's down there from time to time.

Good to hear.

I was looking at building a DA build or a OA2-4 build for my War. Gaxe is cool but I have always been in love with multi-hit from the coveted Ridill.

On my OA2-4 build I really have been all over the place for what to chose for the mainhand. In the end the Dex/Acc axe will probably win, nice to have the Acc outside of Abys I guess.

Thanks for keeping me motivated.

guichard's axe +2 with dex/acc

went the dex route since dex affects crits and well, razed ruin , nuff said

i'm at work so i dont remember the stats

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 4:13pm by Gippo

On the topic of the DEX axe, you should be capped dDEX vs almost anything w/ crour buffs and RR atma. You cap at 20% crit rate @ 50 over the mob AGI. (I think it is 50)

Thanks for jumping in with some math, I was wondering (not to derail) if you could help with some math on my build.

I am building a Gaxe build and just playing with axe combos. I like the multi hit and was thinking of doing with the OAT Gaxe, I figure that will do better than the OA2-4 Gaxe. I was wondering if you could figure how that would compare to the DA+8% Gaxe.

Just from using bro science it seems the OAT Gaxe procs about 45% (from what I have read) and it would be nice to have all the DA Proc when it doesn't kick in. How would that stack against the DA Gaxe and the OA2-4 Gaxe. War is my main and I want to knock out on of these Gaxe to take over my byakkyo axe until I can work my way to Yukkos fury.

Thanks for any help or suggestions.

i really appreciate the math help, not so good at that stuff.

I guess I am just going to work towards a Maschu +2 and call it all good. I have all the kindred crest and high crests just from doing parties. I have been taking as many parties to try to skillup my Gaxe, hell I am only at 317 skill and I have full merits on War, Nin and Blm. guess I just need a skill up party now, skill trying to earn curur though.

Now in you math does that include the WS frequency that you would get from the added TP of a multi-hit?

What would be the DPS of the Maschu +2?

SO if I am understanding you correctly, the Machu +2 with Ukko's Fury really isn't a big upgrade from most of the other magian weapons? That sounds weird to me.

It is very frustrating being a War, I am not cool with just being a trigger bitch, and it is difficult to low man on War because of the lack of survivability, or so I have experienced.

I guess I can understand our usefulness. I have Gaxe, axe, sword, and dagger skilled. I just never saw the sense in skipping up polearm or staff or club. I always kept the weapons that I would actually use skilled. By the time I would level all the "other" weapons god only knows if I would even use them by then. I mean he'll, I haven't even finished COP yet. Lol.