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#1 Sep 14 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm almost 80 and im trying to figure out which great axe is the best one. I see the trials GA, i see Vermiel Bhuj, and the WS GA. im not sure lol.

also im tryna figure out a good TP set for 80+
with all this new gear out its hard to keep up smetimes lol
thx alot guys
#2 Sep 14 2010 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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first the Trials will take time, getting vermeil depends on the group you go with, the WS GA are crap i've heard.

TP gear: full perle is good but a good portion of lolGaxe's forum for top lvl gear is still pretty king.

there are also alot of good abyssea nm drops out there also.
#3 Sep 14 2010 at 9:52 PM Rating: Decent
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What's within your means? What do you currently have?

For weapon I'd go with the 7% DA Kunlun +1, it's a solid all around option. For the rest, you should be working on af3+2 as well as maxing out other Haste slots. Get a Blitz ring if you haven't already, find a few people to trio Ovni with, and work towards either Dusk Gloves +1 or Timarli Dastanas.

Mix and match the rest of your gear based on your hit rate and support job. Subbing SAM plays the same as always, but you can keep a 6 hit /NIN with only 20 sTP. Aurum Cuirass is pretty much a must, the rest is easy enough - Brutal, Rajas, Rose Strap, then either White Tathlum or Belenos's Mantle. If you are using a single hit WS you will need to wear Chivalrous Chain as well.

Edited, Sep 15th 2010 5:17am by TybudX
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#4 Sep 15 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
Vermeil Bhuj RareExclusive
(Great Axe) All Races
DMG: 104 Delay: 504 STR +8
Additional Effect: Amnesia
Lv. 80 WAR / DRK

and

Sumeru +1 AugmentRareExclusive
(Great Axe) All Races
DMG: 104 Delay: 488
Lv. 85 WAR
(Weapon Skill Dmg +10%)
or
(Store Tp +11)

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first the Trials will take time, getting vermeil depends on the group you go with, the WS GA are crap i've heard.


First, the trials are some of the easier ones. Just spam as many WS as you can. And second, how is it crap?

I guess the only thing would be the 5 lvls in between.

Also expect the Vermeil to be left in the dust after next lvl cap increase.
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#5 Sep 16 2010 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Vermial Bhuj has already been left behind. Just comparing it with the WSD+10% trial, 8 STR is going to win by 2 base damage during TP, and even though it offers a significant boost during WS it gets demolished by that 1.1x multiplier on Sumeru +1. The 8 STR gets worked out a few times inside the damage formula, giving it a pretty static effect, while the weapon skill damage gets tacked on after everything is said and done.

If the choice is just between those two, Sumeru +1 for sure, but other trial options are further ahead, and by a fair margin.
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#6 Sep 16 2010 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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TybudX wrote:
Vermial Bhuj has already been left behind. Just comparing it with the WSD+10% trial, 8 STR is going to win by 2 base damage during TP, and even though it offers a significant boost during WS it gets demolished by that 1.1x multiplier on Sumeru +1. The 8 STR gets worked out a few times inside the damage formula, giving it a pretty static effect, while the weapon skill damage gets tacked on after everything is said and done.

If the choice is just between those two, Sumeru +1 for sure, but other trial options are further ahead, and by a fair margin.


I believe the thread was made when we were at lv 80, when we didnt have Sumeru +1.

For level 85, the comparation should be Sumeru +1 vs Atlas +1 vs Barbarus Bhuj

IE:
D104, 488 Delay, WS damage +10%

VS
D108, 482 Delay, 8 STR, 22 Atk

VS
D112, 488 Delay
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#7 Sep 16 2010 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought that when I first read it, too, but it's dated the 14th.

As for Barbarus Bhuj, I admit I forgot all about it. I pretty much just dismissed it with the update notes, since I'm already working towards a trial Great Axe and believe that they will be blue boxed with the next level increase. I just figured it would be outpaced much like Vermeil Bhuj was.

That brings up an interesting option, though. If you have the means to get the new weapons as they come out, and don't want to get stuck with hundreds of hours spent on obsolete trial weaponry, then get the new weapons. The damage difference is small and you can work towards other stuff for three months. When the level cap hits ninety nine in nine months you can make a more informed decision about which trial weapon is best, and save a lot of time in the process.
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#8 Sep 16 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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When the level cap hits ninety nine in nine months you can make a more informed decision about which trial weapon is best, and save a lot of time in the process.


Or just go get the level 99 NM drop weapon or whatnot.
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#9 Sep 16 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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TheKhory wrote:
IE:
D104, 488 Delay, WS damage +10%

VS
D108, 482 Delay, 8 STR, 22 Atk

VS
D112, 488 Delay
I'll just go on record and mention my utter R A G Eacious contempt for odd delays.
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