Need help with Warrior tanking and gear sets Follow

Recently my LS has started requesting me to be backup tank for Dynamis and other smaller events if Pld(s) die. While I'm happy to do this I'm in the dark about actual gear sets for when I'm in this position. The only thing close to a tank job I have is Thf for specific tanking situations which is obviously completely different then Warrior. Let me give some examples of where I feel I need help with sets.

Utsu Ichi/Ni: On Thf I have a full haste macro for Ni. For Ichi I start my cast in full EVA and then end the cast in Haste to lower timer. For War, what gears would be useful to equip when starting the cast to help not interrupt spell or dare I say evade(lol right)?

Provoke: Full Enmity in every slot available?

Defender: When to really if ever use it.

TP: While shadows are up I'd stick with my normal Haste set, but once shadows are down go full VIT with -dmg(askar feet, jelly ring)?

Any other info, links to guides, etc is greatly appreciated.

Yep I'm looking to basically be as ridiculous as possible with gear swaps. Any/all gear recommendations and where/when they'd be useful. I have 0 Koenig pieces currently but this coming week my LS is doing sky so it's possible to get some.


By tanking I mean picking off the mobs after Thf pulls statues. Thing is, my LS I'd say is average to above average when it comes to talent/skill. For example, we did Dyna-Jeuno last night and all was great but for tank/support we had 1 Pld, 2 Blm, 2 Rdm, and 2 Whm. Total amount of people was 17. So while killing does get done at a decent rate, I still feel I'd need a gear set to help "protect" myself so to speak.

So basically tanking sets you want to work towards are:
If you want to find the best gear for the slot use ffxiah advanced search.

Idle set - this should be identical to your DD gear since that's the best tool a War has to hold hate with. Haste, Acc, Att, etc.

Utsutsemi Ichi & Ni set - #1 haste, haste, and haste unless you're getting haste (spell) and marches you gear won't bring you to the 50% cap on recast so gear as much haste as you can. Secondly fast cast, if you have done ACP you can get the Pld/War/Sam/Etc. body with +5 enmity and +5 fast cast. The other piece you can get is the Loquacious Earring which has approx 2% now ichi is only a 4 sec. cast timer but it does help a bit.

Enmity set - I think this is self explanatory but you'd macro this in for provoke and warcry, then take it off right away. Mostly your AF and a few cheap AH pieces should put you at well around +20 enmity.

Lastly are the 2 most optional sets. Firstly the more important -Physical Damage taken and -Magic Damage taken. The only time you use these is when you know you're going to eat a big nasty hit or say hundred fists from a Mnk. There are a few pieces that are -damage taken but most are very rare Defending Ring -10%, Valhalla Breastplate -5%, and Valhalla Helm -5% if you can get those pieces of gear your life just got incredibly easy.

Physical Damage set - Focus first on -Physical Damage which are Earth Staff and the Darksteel Harness +1 set. After that just load Def/Vit it doesn't do a whole lot but it does help.

Magical Defense set - This is a bit easier. If you're going to be tanking you should insist that you be in a party with a Whm that has Shellra, merited fully it gives -24% Magical Damage taken. Now you focus on -Magical Damage gear Iron Ram Lance, Coral/Merman's gear, and Resentment Cape. Once you hit -50% total from Shellra and gear then you focus on Magic Defense Bonus Iron Ram Haubert Set, Lamia Gear, etc.

Iron Ram Lance and Earth Staff respectively are very useful for reducing damage taken but use them under your discretion because you'll lose valuable TP which is the best hate tool you have.

The final thing is food. I would recommend either Carbonara because it provides HP and Att. HP not only provides the obvious bonuses of giving healers more time to react and avoiding being one shotted but also the higher your max HP is the less enmity you lose from taking damage. The second fairly more expensive option is Rabbit Pie this provides a huge boost to att and def.

None of gear is bad to have on hand with War if you don't mind carrying it around. I've tanked almost everything in the game pre-WoTG/ZNM (and some of that stuff anyways.) War is an excellent back up tank but even not acting as a tank having -phys/magic damage sets can save your ass as DD. There's no disadvantage to having this gear ready, apart from inventory issues. So if you have the room and extra gil it's not a bad investment and if you ever level Pld most of the gear is pretty much considered necessary.


Edited, Aug 15th 2009 9:23am by OrsonBastokChampion

I idle in ethereal, hermes, barone body and orochi. I'M DOING MY PART TO SAVE THE EARTHMP

Edited, Aug 15th 2009 3:37pm by RedshiftOnPandy

This is the purpose I'm fulfilling now basically. I find inventory not so much an issue with Satchel now, even when I'm on Blm. I will be looking for a Darksteel Harness(+1), but the only thing I can realistically get is that new
-dmg ring. The other items are not available to me as I am not in a Ein. LS and I don't have millions to spend on those items. I do already have Jelly Ring and Askar Feet.

Another item I considered was Boxer's Mantle. I would have to pick either that or Loq. earring as I don't have enough gil+coins for both.

Thanks for the advice.

Edited, Aug 15th 2009 9:18pm by mikusmaximus

Why ethereal? Please don't say evasion... >.>

I idle in Hermes and Orochi... haven't gone the next mile with Barone Body yet.

Can't (shouldn't) idle in askar unfortunately if you use hermes... and I don't really like Jelly Ring, even though I have it. I usually forget to take it off if I am fighting something with magical attacks.

Also, Mikus mentioned the Patronus Ring, which is fantastic for ANY job in Campaign, and is awesome for Idle set if you don't have Defending Ring or are not already capped on Phys Dmg down.


Don't forget that if you use Iron Ram lance you also take 10% reduced dmg... and though your Penta Thrusts won't be ZOMG and you won't get a good X Hit with it, it is the highest DOT polearm we can use on the base level. It isn't a bad thing to use.




I wouldn't say "any decent mage has idle sets" Im one of the only mages I know that uses one, I wouldn't exactly say it is common. Most people don't want to spend precious gil on stuff like that.

Oh... I thought you just took full dmg and ethereal gave you 3% of it back...

I have a Orb waiting for Royale Ramble if you want to go at it. It's great gil and it has great weapons.

Unlocking it is a bitch yeah, what with no tier III ws :/

Nah, it CONVERTS 3% damage taken to MP!

If you can get the people for Royale Ramble, I'll give you my orb if Gondo drops on yours and I can get it! I did most of the unlocking for King's Justice solo, it was so horrible lol.

Idle sets for mages are typically something with auto refresh (regen for non latent rings too!), dmg-%, movement+ and mp+. Mages really benefit a lot more from idle sets since when you aren't casting (which is a lot of the time depending on the circumstances) you just sit there... If you use dusk gear, then it would be beneficial to have an idle set and throw in some extras that you just happen to own (ethereal earring).