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The easiest answer to this question is aurum.

It depends on your acc vs the mob in question and current total haste. Situational stuff is useful in various situations.

Edited, May 25th 2009 11:01pm by tresker

first of all, a few easy to remember things to help decide such questions:

1) 1 ACC yields .5 ACC%, ie if your ACC is 75% without a sniper's ring (5ACC:P), it's 77.5% with a sniper's ring.

2) because of (1), as long as ACC doesn't cap, 2ACC is always > 1% DoT. why? because going from 94% to 95% ACC is more than a 1% increase (1/94 = 1.06%), though generally it's just about a 1% increase. if your ACC% is 50% (extremely low), 2ACC is a 2% DoT increase (1/50 = 2%).

3) at 50% total haste, 1% haste gives you 2% DoT.

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so now take your hypothetical question: is 10 ACC > 2 haste? well, 10 ACC is 5 ACC%. 5 ACC% is > 5% DoT. 2 haste isn't > 4% DoT until your initial haste is 50%. therefore, you know (at least) that 10 ACC is going to win unless you have a ton of haste.

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the table in this post (i think i'm quoting shintasama with it) can also lead you to the answer to your question. holy sh*t, i was going to post more but my head is hurting so much i need to get offline. wow, that's a sharp pain. if i never post again, assume that i've died. good luck with dusk decision and remember to consider haste spell and/or march(es).

I used Amir until Aurum. I was happy with it.

He will be missed, until his alcohol cache is discovered, at which point all but one drink will be consumed. Then we will party like no tomorrow, in honor of the deceased.

If we drank Milich's chache we'd be joining him in death.

I would say that 50% of the time I am getting 35% from backline. (I already have armada, have had it for years)

Ok lets see if I understand the math here.


My tp gear is

Base Dex 66 + 25 =91 = 60 acc
Acc gear = 47
Skill 282 (too many merits in other categories, but I may drop axe and push this to 290)about 272 acc??

272 + 60 + 47 = 379.

410 (Bird Camp cap) - 379 = 31 31 / 2 = 15% which seems I am only at 80% hit rate? (Without aggressor, i am 3/3/4 so agrressor is up roughly 66% of time) So it would appear that i have a blended hit rate of about 88%.

Dam, going to have to finish meriting GAX, well at least take to to 5 so that I am capped with aggressor up.

Is my math close?

273 ACC from skill (the first 200 skill gives you 200 ACC, then everything after is multiplied by .9, with the decimal cut off of the product; 90*.9 = 73.8, so you get 273 ACC, and would get 281 with 290 skill).

as for ACC at bird camp, note that the stats on bgwiki are wrong and the ones on ffxi wiki are right; it's only 2ACC difference, but the old numbers are a small mistake by nagamaki (when he discovered the ACC formula, incidentally) that for some reason the bg people don't fix.

anyway, lv81 has 334 evasion, and lv82 has 339 evasion. ACC% is level corrected such that the mob gains 4 effective evasion (that doesn't show up in /check) for every level above you it is, so lv81 gets 24 more ACC and lv82 gets 28 more ACC, putting effective evasion at

lv81 gcolibri: 358 (so you cap ACC% with 398 ACC vs them)
lv82 gcolibri: 367 (and you cap vs them at 407 ACC)

379 means 85.5% ACC vs lv81, 81% vs lv82. aggressor caps you vs lv81 but not 82.

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so, dusk vs amir... if you don't make separate macros for aggressor up and down... 6ACC vs 2% haste... i'd go with dusk. if you load up on ACC, i'd think about making an aggressor up macro and doing something crazy in it like wearing byrnie+1 or askar or something. maybe...

Two suggestions I never expected to hear in the warrior forum. And thinking about it, I'm not sure why. Now, I've only just woke up so the odds of me missing the mark are considerable, but; blitz ring? (assuming you're not /sam and need the stp from ecphoria). Cuchlain's to Amemet+1/forager's? Hrm.

Edited, May 28th 2009 12:42pm by MithraDooom

I've been saying to use blitz and bombcore when aggressor is up because of excess ACC since... forever

You also have bot macros to automatically change your macro swaps according to what you are fighting. I have to go in and edit my macros every party I have and remember what I had in there. Sometimes I forget to change it and the differences are so miniscule that just a couple fights of losing necessary acc can completely negate the benefit of doing it for an hour straight...

What is good on colibri and nyzul is not necessarily good for everything else. Fighting mamools without bot macros, you'd still have to leave acc gear in on Agg unless you wanted to go apesh*t and put TWO Agg down macros instead of one. (which is already min/maxing)

Moral is, this is good for you. But unless you parse + know the math, know your EXACT acc, or a combination of the above, it is a better and safer idea to just leave the acc gear in. (98% of all playerbase)

Edited, May 28th 2009 2:28pm by LordMnementh

Edited, May 28th 2009 2:30pm by LordMnementh

Damn you and your making-me-feel-guilty-for-not-having-more-macro-sets. -_-... I guess I just don't have THAT much gear to change around, and so I don't really want to write 120 lines of macro code just for one or two gear changes...

As for captain eastern jobs... that's kind of why I haven't leveled any. Enough damned Samurais... Mnk I *really* want to level, but then I'd feel bad about Usukane, need BB items, more sky sh*t, merits, etc. So unfortunate.