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#1 May 23 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hey Alla WARs,

I am a long time MNK and have recently been leveling my WAR. Unfortunately, most of my parties have been synced down to 37-40 and recently I've decided that I want to stop that and hopefully start xping from 50+. My WAR is currently 58.

I have been focusing on a meat build for my MNK and am wondering if, at this stage, I should be doing the same thing for WAR. Should my main focus be ACC and ATK elsewhere? I've no idea why but I'm nervous about gearing WAR :/

Much thanks.
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#2 May 23 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was the same as you, coming from MNK to WAR. I can tell you from experience that you gear them in exactly the same way.

Acc > Att > STR > DEX.

A large ammount of something on the right(Say, twice as much) will trump whatever is directly on the left, imo.

Let me see if I can dig out my first WAR forum post...


Here you go. Ignore my noobishness, I was young and impressionable. Smiley: laugh

Also, make sure your Great Axe is capped first, before worrying about other stuff.

Edited, May 23rd 2009 1:50pm by Nilatai
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#3 May 23 2009 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Here you go. Ignore my noobishness, I was young and impressionable. Smiley: laugh


Oh man, that's some funny stuff. Everyone was so mean, too. Smiley: lol
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#4 May 23 2009 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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Using great axe, it's either meat or pizza+1 (NQ pizza is not to be considered), sushi is never an option*

If you don't merit your WAR, GA is much much more important than axes or swords. Even if you plan to merit WAR, GA is still the best option.**

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Edited, May 23rd 2009 3:36pm by RedshiftOnPandy
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#5 May 23 2009 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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acc > att > str > dex is correct. war tends to swap out more str in ws than mnk. you will undoubtedly come across gear on war which you may wonder is better than what you already have.

take, for example since you are about to hit 59, walkure mask vs sapahi turban. 6att vs 3st. general rules says att > str but thats a big chunk of str. i use a method which may or may not be 100% correct so take it with a grain of salt. for gear upgades/sidegrades i try to convert all stats into a single value, att.

from what i have read from the great math wizards around here are some other general rules i choose to follow:

1 acc = ~3att
1 STR = ~2att
1 dex = .5 acc = ~1.5att

so on the example above of walkure mask vs sapahi turban you can see they have about the same impact on your DoT. I chose, and recommend, the sapahi (abtal if you can afford it) because it also effects your ws modifiers.

there are some other gear upgrades/sidegrades i have done this with like NQhauby + pcc vs HQhauby + chivchain and the popular 'what pants should i wear until 75' of royal knights breeches vs think breeches vs exorcist hose vs barone:

royal knights breeches- 2 str 2 dex 3 att = ~10 att
think breeches- 2 acc 5 att = ~11 att
exorcist hose- 3 str 3 acc = ~15 att <-winner
barone- 2 str 6 att = ~10 att

Edited, May 23rd 2009 3:50pm by iknoweverything
#6 May 23 2009 at 1:32 PM Rating: Excellent
My first post on the war forum was before your first post on the war forum.

Therefore, I'm better.
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#7 May 23 2009 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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My first post on the war forum was before your first post on the war forum.

Therefore, I'm better.
Link plz!

Speaking of links: Votes plz, kthx.
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#8 May 23 2009 at 2:28 PM Rating: Excellent
NILATAI IS MY IDENTICAL HAND TWIN!!!

VOTE FOR HIM IMMEDIATELY!


srsly.

We have hyperextensive joints. Well, I do, and from pictures it seems that he also does.
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#9 May 23 2009 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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NILATAI IS MY IDENTICAL HAND TWIN!!!

VOTE FOR HIM IMMEDIATELY!


srsly.

We have hyperextensive joints. Well, I do, and from pictures it seems that he also does.
Correct!
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#10 May 23 2009 at 2:37 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm hyperextensive in every joint bar my elbows.

Edited, May 23rd 2009 10:37pm by MojoVIII
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#11 May 23 2009 at 2:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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I voted for you this time, but next time you get nominated... I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE
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#12 May 23 2009 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
I voted for you this time, but next time you get nominated... I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE
WELL! Maybe I'll win this time. Then I can't be nominated again until next year. Smiley: grin
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#13 May 23 2009 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
Someone vote Mojo... Smiley: crymore
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#14 May 23 2009 at 3:55 PM Rating: Good
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Someone vote Mojo... Smiley: crymore
I R NOMINATE JOO. Next month :3
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#15 May 23 2009 at 4:00 PM Rating: Excellent
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
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Someone vote Mojo... Smiley: crymore
I R NOMINATE JOO. Next month :3
Don't waste your time lol. I'm not known outside of this forum, and probably wouldn't be voted for except by you and sol. And maybe ken. Ken's my hermano.
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#16 May 23 2009 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
Also, one of my earliest posts had 170 replies, and resulted in every one of my posts being sub-defaulted to bring me from guru to scholar and pikko saying:
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Ah the WAR forum golden days...
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#17 May 23 2009 at 5:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Posting cuz I'm bored.

Voted for Nil because I respect him and don't know the other candidates. Also, people should post moar in the Siren forum >.>;
#18 May 23 2009 at 5:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Aaah, okay. ^_^ Thanks very much.

>.> I've been trying to keep both Axe & GAxe skilled but orz... My NPC can only cure me so much. Sadly I'm sitting @ 134 for both weapons.

@Red I've got access to some great ACC pieces due to MNK. ^^ And yes, I TP in ACC and prance around in misc. :D

@Nil Voting if I can because you're a MNK/WAR, too! ^^

Are most other DD jobs the same? (This is to prevent me from asking in every single job forum >.>) ACC > ATK > STR > Etc.?
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#19 May 23 2009 at 11:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
I voted for you this time, but next time you get nominated... I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE
WELL! Maybe I'll win this time. Then I can't be nominated again until next year. Smiley: grin
Well, you get my vote, if only because you're my friend and I hear you're good at catering
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#20 May 24 2009 at 5:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lucinus wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
I voted for you this time, but next time you get nominated... I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE
WELL! Maybe I'll win this time. Then I can't be nominated again until next year. Smiley: grin
Well, you get my vote, if only because you're my friend and I hear you're good at catering
Smiley: laugh
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#21 May 24 2009 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
I love how the war forum has rushed to vote for you. You're trashing the opposition now :D
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#22 May 24 2009 at 6:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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We stand together!


Although I do it only because you guys are cool.
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#23 May 24 2009 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm only winning because the other nominees are either unknowns or Trolls. (Kenage in the fomor camp).
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#24 May 24 2009 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
Ken should take over the world, but he's too drunk and/or lazy.

Probably both.
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#25 May 24 2009 at 9:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ken should take over the world, but he's too drunk and/or lazy.

Probably both.
See also, Solrain's sig.

in fairness, though, Kenage is too awesome to take over the world. It could not contain his awesome, nor could it contain the awesome of his awesome guitar.

Solar system sounds about right, though.
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#26 May 24 2009 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Solar system sounds about right, though.


Even if he did take control over the whole solar system, he'd just end up controlling just the Earth anyway. Unless there are actually Martians on Mars and unless Klatuu lives on Jupiter, then it's kinda moot to own the entire Sol system. Perhaps owning the galaxy would fit better? There has to be other life forms in our galaxy. I refuse to believe that the rest of the Milky Way is just empty space.
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[quote=Lucinus]I refuse to believe that the rest of the Milky Way is just empty space.
Most of the universe is just empty space.

Edited, May 24th 2009 5:44pm by RedshiftOnPandy
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#28 May 24 2009 at 1:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lucinus wrote:
Solar system sounds about right, though.


Even if he did take control over the whole solar system, he'd just end up controlling just the Earth anyway. Unless there are actually Martians on Mars and unless Klatuu lives on Jupiter, then it's kinda moot to own the entire Sol system. Perhaps owning the galaxy would fit better? There has to be other life forms in our galaxy. I refuse to believe that the rest of the Milky Way is just empty space.
Think of all the untapped natural resources, though. I mean, look at Jupiter, the planet's home to gigantic storms a thousand kilometres across. If it were somehow possible to harness that energy we might never have to rely on fossil fuels again! Think about it!

*insert inane and nonsensical techno-rant here*
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#29 May 24 2009 at 1:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lucinus wrote:
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Lucinus wrote:
Solar system sounds about right, though.


Even if he did take control over the whole solar system, he'd just end up controlling just the Earth anyway. Unless there are actually Martians on Mars and unless Klatuu lives on Jupiter, then it's kinda moot to own the entire Sol system. Perhaps owning the galaxy would fit better? There has to be other life forms in our galaxy. I refuse to believe that the rest of the Milky Way is just empty space.
Think of all the untapped natural resources, though. I mean, look at Jupiter, the planet's home to gigantic storms a thousand kilometres across. If it were somehow possible to harness that energy we might never have to rely on fossil fuels again! Think about it!

*insert inane and nonsensical techno-rant here*


Yea but we would have to spend billions upon billions to harness it. Rocket fuel to get there, machinery to tap into it, more fuel to get back, manpower to control the machines, hazard pay for some freak micro-meteor storm or something...we'd end up bankrupting Earth first lol. I do admit though that if we could tap into that power, it would be all we could ever need.


And btw, I do realize most of the universe is empty space. I meant that planets and stars and such in each galaxy. Guess I coulda been clearer on that, lol.
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The easiest way to **** off a pretentious British or French chap trying to make a living in "the biggest, greatest" city in the world is to find one that works in a swanky restaurant as a waiter and ask him for the Steak Tartare, well done.

Jesus do they get pissed!
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#31 May 24 2009 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
What if we got all the straws in the world an a load of duct tape.

We could suck the power to us!

Right?

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By the time harnessing power from Jupiter's storms (why not Neptune?) is "reasonable," we'd probably have a better way before then (sup cold fusion).
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Jesus do they get pissed!
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#34 May 24 2009 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
By the time harnessing power from Jupiter's storms (why not Neptune?) is "reasonable," we'd probably have a better way before then (sup cold fusion).
Does cold fusion actually rely on the particles being at absolute zero? I'm a little confused about that.

And also, I thought nothing could ever be at absolute zero, just incredibly close to it.
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And also, I thought nothing could ever be at absolute zero, just incredibly close to it.
Correct. It's also only achieveable by intelligent life forms. Even the coldest reachest of the universe are a few Kelvin above 0 because of residual engergy from the Big Bang.
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#37 May 24 2009 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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Get 60+ and you should be able to go ride retaliation as /dnc and get both to 200ish fighting crabs in kuftal. Fight by the zone if you're taking too much damage.

Meat is usually the easiest to do since you'll prolly be burning through them on birds, though if you're low for the camp (<50% acc), like 52-53 or 60-61 on birds, crab sushi can be more helpful.

Most of the gear for war is pretty obvious for that level range. Often times there is an expensive best option, which if you can't afford then the alternatives usually even out amongst each other (SFG, PCC, etc). Some things are pretty easily attainable and full of win (haub).

Great axe gives you about 20 more accuracy, which really helps, though you'll still have pretty low accuracy anyways.
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#38 May 24 2009 at 5:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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@Nila: voted for you pal, you better win the PoM or I will nominate you next month, consider it your Aztecan curse!

@Mojo: of course I will vote for you bro, I will stop the transit in Times Square if it's necessary to make you win, either that or hack alla whatever seems easier.

@Everyone: No I can't take over the solar system either the earth, as being stated before I'm too lazy and/or drunk for that, take control imprecate to many annoyances that I won't keep up with, however we should try to raise lolgaxe spring to conquer the world!, and get her a pinky sidekick(how awesome would that be?) maybe with a poncho and hat, and perhaps not retarded but just tequila drunk all the time!(=win)

Sincerely.

Ken.

P.D. thx guys, you really made me feel appreciated, <3 you all, except Mojo cuz he stole Sol from me >.>; once I take Sol back, maybe I can reconsider.
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Commander MojoVIII wrote:
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
By the time harnessing power from Jupiter's storms (why not Neptune?) is "reasonable," we'd probably have a better way before then (sup cold fusion).
Does cold fusion actually rely on the particles being at absolute zero? I'm a little confused about that.

And also, I thought nothing could ever be at absolute zero, just incredibly close to it.
No, cold fusion is the idea that you could preform (like a magic trick!) fusion at "low" temperatures (rather than the ridiculously high temperatures and pressure needed) for easy energy. For fusion, they're working on using lasers to heat isotopes of hydrogen. I think a power plant is planned to be built somewhere in Europe in the future? Going off memory >.>
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#40 May 25 2009 at 4:01 AM Rating: Excellent
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
Commander MojoVIII wrote:
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
By the time harnessing power from Jupiter's storms (why not Neptune?) is "reasonable," we'd probably have a better way before then (sup cold fusion).
Does cold fusion actually rely on the particles being at absolute zero? I'm a little confused about that.

And also, I thought nothing could ever be at absolute zero, just incredibly close to it.
No, cold fusion is the idea that you could preform (like a magic trick!) fusion at "low" temperatures (rather than the ridiculously high temperatures and pressure needed) for easy energy. For fusion, they're working on using lasers to heat isotopes of hydrogen. I think a power plant is planned to be built somewhere in Europe in the future? Going off memory >.>
I thought the whole key to it was that it had to be at temperatures approaching absolute zero for this to be possible, theoretically.
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Commander MojoVIII wrote:
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
Commander MojoVIII wrote:
RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
By the time harnessing power from Jupiter's storms (why not Neptune?) is "reasonable," we'd probably have a better way before then (sup cold fusion).
Does cold fusion actually rely on the particles being at absolute zero? I'm a little confused about that.

And also, I thought nothing could ever be at absolute zero, just incredibly close to it.
No, cold fusion is the idea that you could preform (like a magic trick!) fusion at "low" temperatures (rather than the ridiculously high temperatures and pressure needed) for easy energy. For fusion, they're working on using lasers to heat isotopes of hydrogen. I think a power plant is planned to be built somewhere in Europe in the future? Going off memory >.>
I thought the whole key to it was that it had to be at temperatures approaching absolute zero for this to be possible, theoretically.


Cold fusion can happen at room temperature while it takes high heat, 300 million degrees Celsius, for normal fusion to occur. The term "cold fusion" just means that the temperature at which the fusion occurs is lower than what is normally used. It doesn't have to be absolute zero.

Edit: According to Firefox, "tern" is a word.

Edited, May 25th 2009 9:49am by XxHigetsuxX
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Edit: According to Firefox, "tern" is a word.
Yup, it's a type of small birdie.
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Hmm, indeed it is. Kinda like a black headed seagull.
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Cold fusion isn't proven to exist; it's just a pipe dream. And boy, do I love my vape pipe.

Edited, May 26th 2009 8:11pm by RedshiftOnPandy
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#45 May 26 2009 at 4:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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#47 May 27 2009 at 12:57 AM Rating: Excellent
Guys all this talking got me to thinking and I came up with a solution.

x=7

=> cold fusion exists.


I call it mojo's law.
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#48 May 27 2009 at 7:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Guys all this talking got me to thinking and I came up with a solution.

x=7

=> cold fusion exists.


I call it mojo's law.
I thought Mojo's Law states that enough Guinness will eventually make anything fall down?

See also the corollary, the Dwarven Gravitational Theorem

Edited, May 27th 2009 3:54pm by Lucinus
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Ahhh wait, Batman smokes weed and is a Communist? I think I'm lost here...
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Lucinus wrote:
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Edit: According to Firefox, "tern" is a word.
Yup, it's a type of small birdie.


I mis-read this as "small type of bride". I then re-read it, and the world got much less interesting.
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Findanniin wrote:
"Last reply Mithradoom. Well, someone had to go rain on the happy parade" was exactly what went through my head. xD


Keliaffxi wrote:

ITT: The Gimpire Strikes Back
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