Ok, I don't know if this has been covered a million times or not (I couldn't find anything) but is the 6ACC really worth the 1mil price tag associated with it for Fire Bomblet?
I'm just thinking out-loud here, but with Hasso, an A+ in GAxe and merits, wouldn't your ACC be high enough that Fire Bomblet would under-preform against Bomb Core?
Again, I apologize if this has been covered a million times, just got SAM sub to 37 and haven't been around WAR for awhile.
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I failed to list Aggressor in there for added ACC. Anyway, you have answered my question in a round-about way which I appreciate, but I was looking for something a little deeper. How much of a difference is that 6ACC going to make?
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It makes a big difference imo. I have capped Gaxe and even w/ aggressor up I don't hit 90% at mamools when I full time meat (which is always). Not to mention trying to hit sky gods etc. 6acc is 6acc and to be honest I actually use /NIN more than I use /SAM at this point so it was a good investment for me.
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75 WAR: 4/4 crits | 5/5 DA/Berserk/Warrior's Charge | 8/8 Gaxe | 2/5 Toma
75 RNG: 6/8 Marksmanship
75 BST
37+ NIN SAM THF DNC WHM BLM
Current goals:
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Nyzul --> 100 --> King's Justice: Floor 25
Bastok: 9-1
ZM, CoP, Apoc Nigh, ACP, MKT: Complete
ToAU: 44
WotG: ??
If your acc's not capped at meripo's (or below 90%) then that 6acc is at least a 2.9 - 3% increase over the extra 6att from the BC.
Considering certain jobs will pay 4M for the extra 2acc 2att from black tathlum, i'd say the bomblet is worth every penny.
Considering certain jobs will pay 4M for the extra 2acc 2att from black tathlum, i'd say the bomblet is worth every penny.
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For most avg or slightly better setups fire bomblet performs about the same and bombcore; esp on birds.
I'll use my setup for an example (which isn't stellar):
SKILL 292 = 282 acc
DEX 81 = 60 acc
EQ = 43 acc
Total = 385 acc (410 with aggressor)
Since bird acc caps at 407, anything beyond this is going to get 2/5th value (or less if you merited aggressor)
Finding the value of att/acc on birds:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=16;mid=1233872604201847924;num=19;page=1
At 86% acc , 1 acc will bump you up 0.58 for 40% of the time = 0.232% damage increase
At 500 att (pre-zerk,chaos roll), 1 att = 0.25%
In total that bomblet= -0.108%
Ok, now you can say you'll be WS about 1.39% more often also.
WS usually comprises 50% of my damage (use your own number if you like),
so 1.39% x 0.5 = +0.695% for bomblet
In total thats +0.587% for bomblet if you have so-so gear and no merits in aggressor, and hasso is off
On higher lvl mobs or thf mobs, fire bomblet starts to shine.
Edited, May 19th 2009 2:49pm by doctorugh
I'll use my setup for an example (which isn't stellar):
SKILL 292 = 282 acc
DEX 81 = 60 acc
EQ = 43 acc
Total = 385 acc (410 with aggressor)
Since bird acc caps at 407, anything beyond this is going to get 2/5th value (or less if you merited aggressor)
Finding the value of att/acc on birds:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=16;mid=1233872604201847924;num=19;page=1
At 86% acc , 1 acc will bump you up 0.58 for 40% of the time = 0.232% damage increase
At 500 att (pre-zerk,chaos roll), 1 att = 0.25%
In total that bomblet= -0.108%
Ok, now you can say you'll be WS about 1.39% more often also.
WS usually comprises 50% of my damage (use your own number if you like),
so 1.39% x 0.5 = +0.695% for bomblet
In total thats +0.587% for bomblet if you have so-so gear and no merits in aggressor, and hasso is off
On higher lvl mobs or thf mobs, fire bomblet starts to shine.
Edited, May 19th 2009 2:49pm by doctorugh
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Accuracy is always a huge improvement, the only thing that beat accuracy in this game, is Haste and both are mutually dependent.
Once you get really good with War gear(and mean nothing less but the wonder gear) you will need both as an aggressor up/down pieces before that moment Bomblet will triumph Core in almost any situation worth to worry about.
6 accuracy on non capped situations is at least 3.26~% Dot, you will need between 15~20 attack to cover that, and unless you have a relic capping accuracy while aggressor is down is pretty hard(even on birds)
I hope it helps.
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Once you get really good with War gear(and mean nothing less but the wonder gear) you will need both as an aggressor up/down pieces before that moment Bomblet will triumph Core in almost any situation worth to worry about.
6 accuracy on non capped situations is at least 3.26~% Dot, you will need between 15~20 attack to cover that, and unless you have a relic capping accuracy while aggressor is down is pretty hard(even on birds)
I hope it helps.
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The question is why should you care? Rate up/down is a hilarious thing that's more about whether you have friends to cock ride ya than anything else.
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I dont really care about rate down so much, as if there is a critique to hear, I'd like to hear it. (math is wrong with explanation, premise is wrong and here is why, ect, ect)
I know the feeling, it's really irritating when you post something technical/informative and get rated down, yet noone ever addresses the point you brought up. It's almost as if someone is saying "You're wrong but I can't back up why I think you're wrong"
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Fire Bomblet and Bomb core are both good to have, if you know the situations where both are useful. I don't use fire bomblet in Nyzul for example.
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