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#1 May 13 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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The Great Axe Warrior Food Guide: A work permanently in progress.

Hey all. This is the food guide I'm trying to put together for the GA warriors. I admit I'm rusty from being out of the game for a few months. But seeing as how I'm laid up with a pretty good knee injury, I figured I'd give it a go. This guide is more editing and arranging than writing. Thanks to allakhazam, ffxiclopedia, ffxiah, The Mead Hall, and any who help the guide by pointing out any mistakes I have made. Please, if you find a mistake or have a better idea, post it here and I will revise the guide.

As always, thanks in advance.

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IN THE BEGINNING: Levels 1-50.
First off, do not use sushi at these levels. Sushi works based on percent increases. You will actually get much better total results at a far lower price with Rice Dumplings. That said, they are pricey if this is your first job. Fortunately, there is another excellent option.

OPTION 1: Rice Dumplings
Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
* HP +17
* Strength +3
* Vitality +2
* Agility +1
* HP Recovered While Healing +2
* MP Recovered While Healing +2
* Accuracy +5
* Attack +20% (Cap: 45@225 Base Attack)
* Ranged Attack +30% (Cap: 45@150 Base Ranged Attack)
* Resist Paralyze

Without a doubt the best melee food under level 50. That said, they are expensive for someone on their first time through the game and not always available on the auction house. Strictly optional, I'd advise you to consider saving the gil for your level 40 accuracy rings and just go with Option 2 below.

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OPTION 2: Meat Mithkabobs
Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
* Strength +5
* Agility +1
* Intelligence -2
* Attack +22% (Cap: 60@272 Base Attack)

Let me just count off the awesome that I personally find in Meat Mithkabobs
1) They are always at least decent to use.
2) If someone in the party screwed up and forgot food (it happens) I can give one for a few hundred gil.
3) If I wind up level synced it's not a waste to use the food.
4) In dynamis you die a lot, this food is cheep.
5) If you have a new player in your LS you can give a few of these to get them going.
6) Stackable, so I could carry 12 of these for just one inventory slot.
7) Super cheap, just sell what you farm up if you aren't using it to craft.

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BRINGING THE PAIN: Level 50-74. Carry Both of These.

OPTION 1: Meat Mithkabobs

I really can't stress this enough, keep a stack on you. Or just ignore me and choose between giving expensive food to someone or watching your party/mission run/NM/whatever fail.

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OPTION 2: Crab Sushi

Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
* Vitality +1
* Defense +10
* Accuracy +13%

About now you will be noticing that you just barely managed to keep your GA skill capped as you rose through the levels. Life is better with Level Sync, but it comes at a price. If you have a gimped Great Axe skill, this food is an excellent way to get your skill back up. If you are also trying to catch your axe skill up you can combine this food a pair of Viking Axes to get that axe skill up where it should be. I come from the school that says a warrior should cap both GA and axe. If the party is level synced above your level (it happens, to give a healer/tank an ability or skill) this is good food to let you land the hits. Some people like to use Squid Sushi +1 here for a better gil/hour, but I stand by the belief that when the tank or healer screw up it's the job that has the most even damage over time that is going to die, especially when using AF feet with an enmity bonus. And that's you.

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END GAME FOOD: Level 75.

OPTION 1: Meat Mithkabobs

I still carried some of these. It's great when the LS needs to kill something to get an AF piece, when a friend needs help farming something or getting a mission done, when the next player over forgot their food and the party just got going (Yeah, I've done it too. It's embarrassing, but better to tell your party than to try to hide it.) I always carried a full stack of 12 on me and a partial stack in the mog house I used to recharge the backpack up to 12 again when I got home.

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OPTION 2: Crab Sushi

Ok, before I get attacked here, I just want to say that leveling up random weapons when you're bored is a time honored warrior tradition. Of course, getting bored and just sort of stopping after half an hour is also part of the tradition. I'm way too cheap to pay for the expensive food for this. As with the Meat Mithkabobs, I advocate keeping a partial stack at home and a full stack in the backpack.

PLEASE NOTE: Sushi is not necessarily the best option even when skilling up a weapon. If you are in a party put together for the purpose of skilling up weapons or you have agreed to Level Sync from level 75 down to level 24 to help someone in your linkshell get a level then you are in a category that is characterized by how little it matters if you have an attack bonus from your food. If you are in any other situation (for example, if your linkshell is letting you cap a weapon just because you feel like it while farming in sky) then I strongly recommend skipping directly down to Marinara Pizza or Marinara Pizza +1, shown below.

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OPTION 3: Coeurl Sub

Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
* MP +10
* Strength +5
* Agility +1
* Intelligence -2
* HP Recovered While Healing +1
* Resist Stun
* Resist Sleep
* Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Attack)
* Ranged Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Ranged Attack)

What's important here is that it gives 15 more attack than Meat Mithkabobs. It also costs about six times as much per stack. I'd say try them both out and see what works for you.

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OPTION 4: Marinara Pizza or Marinara Pizza +1

Marinara Pizza
Food Effects: (3 hours, All Races)
* HP +20
* Attack +20% (Cap: 50 @ 250 Base Attack)
* Accuracy +10% (Cap: 40+) Verification Needed
* Undead Killer

Marinara Pizza +1
Food Effects: (4 hours, All Races)
* HP +25
* Attack +21% (Cap: 55)
* Accuracy +11% (Cap: 44+) Verification Needed
* Undead Killer

It's everything sushi could never be: it has Accuracy and Attack. This is definitely a valid choice for when you just can't seem to get the hits to land or are skilling up. The +1 version doesn't cost much more and gives you even more attack and accuracy.

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OPTION 5: Yellow Curry

Food Effects: (3 hours, All Races)
* HP +20
* Strength +5
* Agility +2
* Intelligence -4
* HP Recovered While Healing +2
* MP Recovered While Healing +1
* Attack +20% (Cap: 75 @ 375 Base Attack)
* Ranged Attack +20% (Cap: 75@375 Base Ranged Attack)
* Resist Sleep
* Resist Stun

For the purposes of a warrior, this is a three-hour Coeurl Sub. On my server this costs 7k and a stack of Coeurl Subs costs 14k. So it's the same gil/time to use these foods. Whenever that situation occurs, the 30-minutes food is always the winner as it is more shareable, can be changed out if the situation calls for it, and you don't get burned if the party doesn't run exactly three hours. If you get a good price ratio compared to Coeurl Subs on your server this is a valid choice, but only if you are going on a long fight.

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OPTION 6: Bison Steak

Food Effects: (3 hours, All Races)
* Strength +6
* Agility +1
* Intelligence -3
* Lizard Killer
* Attack +18% (Cap: 90@500 Base Attack)
* Ranged Attack +18% (Cap: 90@500 Base Ranged Attack.)

Now we're talking. A small strength improvement, but the real thing here is the attack improvement. Running around 5k on my server this is far less expensive, and far better, than Coeurl Subs. Keep in mind this is three-hour food here. If you're going to die (Deathnamis), don't use it.

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OPTION 7: Hedgehog Pie

Food Effects: (3 hours, All Races)
* HP +55
* Strength +6
* Vitality +2
* Intelligence -3
* Mind +3
* MP Recovered While Healing +2
* Accuracy +5
* Attack +18% (Cap: 90@500 Base Attack)
* Ranged Attack +18% (Cap: 90@500 Base Ranged Attack)

Someone jammed Rice Dumplings into a Bison Steak and doubled the price. You pay 10k for this on my server and you get Bison Steak with Accuracy +5. This is great food if you're going to use the entire three hours of food effect.

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OPTION 8: Red Curry

Food Effects: (3 hours, All Races)
* HP +25
* Strength +7
* Agility +1
* Intelligence -2
* HP Recovered While Healing +2
* MP Recovered While Healing +1
* Attack +23% (Cap: 150@652 Base Attack)
* Ranged Attack +23% (Cap: 150@652 Base Ranged Attack)
* Demon Killer
* Resist Sleep

What can I say? This is what pimps eat when they aren't counting that night's cash flow. At 50k a pop this is food for when you have either made it rich on synthing/farming or have some unbelievably hard fight coming up. If I could I would eat this for everything.

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OPTION 9: Carbonara or Carbonara +1

Carbonara
Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
* HP +14% (Cap: 175 @ 1249 Base HP)
* MP +10
* Strength +4
* Vitality +2
* Intelligence -3
* Attack +18% (Cap: 65 @ 361 Base Attack)
* Store TP +6

Carbonara +1
Food Effects: (60 minutes, All Races)
* HP +14% (Cap: 180 @ 1285 Base HP)
* MP +15
* Strength +4
* Vitality +2
* Intelligence -3
* Attack +18% (Cap: 70 @ 388 Base Attack)
* Store TP +6

This is a food you would use to get to a 7-hit or 6-hit build. Determining how much Store TP you need is beyond the scope of this guide. The point here is that if you need food to do it, there are options available and they include Attack. The only other Store TP options do not feature Attack as a bonus or cost 40k per plate (this would be Arrabbiata). I strongly recommend you be absolutely certain that you understand the mechanics of Store TP before you invest in gear and food. If you don't cross certain thresholds with Store TP you get absolutely nothing for it, waste gil, and miss out on the chance to raise other stats.

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OPTION 10: Ambrosia

Food Effects: (4 hours, All Races)
* HP +7
* MP +7
* Store TP +7
* Strength +7
* Dexterity +7
* Agility +7
* Vitality +7
* Intelligence +7
* Mind +7
* Charisma +7
* HP Recovered While Healing +7
* MP Recovered While Healing +7
* Attack +7
* Accuracy +7
* Defense +7
* Evasion +7

This is what you get when you combine a high level drop with a cooking 100 synth. Just put it in to show it.

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OPTION 11: Sole Sushi

Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
* HP +20
* Strength +5
* Dexterity +6
* Accuracy +15%
* Ranged Accuracy +15%
* Resist Sleep

It's good accuracy food, but it has no attack. On anything I can't hit I get better accuracy from Bream Sushi (or at least an accuracy buff from Marinara Pizza or Hedgehog Pie), and on anything I can hit I want the attack bonuses. A lot of people swear by this but I personally would use another option. I'm not going to tell you what not to use. I am going to suggest you look at the above options and I will point out these four facts.

1) Warrior has an A+ skill in Great Axe.
2) Warrior has Aggressor which increases accuracy by a flat 25 on top of the A+ skill, for 60% of the time.
3) Warrior has the ability to equip the Hauberk set, fowling earring, snipers/woodsman's, and life belt (all of which can be purchased from the auction house) for instant accuracy improvements.
4) You can merit Great Axe skill to 8/8 making your warrior THE master of landing blows.

If you consider these four facts and consider the food options above, I think you will see why the many of the most experienced warriors do not use Sole Sushi when equipped with a Great Axe.

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Well, this is the end. I hope it helps you and if you have an idea that will help this guide I hope you'll let me know. Thanks for reading and good luck!

Edited, May 14th 2009 9:10pm by Thydonon
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#2 May 13 2009 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe add some colour to it, and i like it.

Hedgehog pie really is good food for War and /war as zerk helps you reach its potential. Unless your in a 2xBRD pty with double Minuet.

On MNK, i have 384-404 base depending if im using N.Kote or OKote. The only way Hedgehog food would work for me was if I had 2xMinuet, or a COR that had merits to help him roll 4's and 11's most of the time.

I didn't realize it was so cheap, I'm going to buy a piece for my next occasion it'd be a better option for me over Marinara.
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#3 May 13 2009 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Marinara+1 is better yet, and it is usually lless than 2K more expensive. It's my favourite food for anything except colibri, where I spam mithkabobs because of the stealing factor.
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#4 May 13 2009 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks, updated to include the +1 pizza. I guess because I had cooking I never got into the habit of chasing HQ food. Making my own food and food for my LS when I could was one of the things I enjoyed in the game.

Edited, May 13th 2009 1:09pm by Thydonon
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#5 May 13 2009 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can sub the mithkabobs for pizza at any level, and pizza will be better almost always.

Also, cheap.
#6 May 13 2009 at 10:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Could put in Carbonara as a possibility as well, as the Store TP can help hit a 6-hit if you lack other gear to make it work.
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#7 May 13 2009 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I completely agree you, Wyrm. The pizza is hands down better than Meat Mithkabobs. The reason I kept Meat Mithkabobs at every level is that they are a versitle, cheap, stackable, 30-minute food.

Sometimes parties just break, or someone forgets a food, or the tank would suck (and I would die a lot), or I would be tanking a mob for a friends AF gear.

Sometimes I would just be flat broke from a purchase or I would synth up a batch of sushi only to find out that somebody decided to use my profit synth for fast skilling up and I would be swimming in sushi (in stead of gil).

In all these situations, Meat Mithkabobs pulled me through. So I always kept a stack on me. Perhaps this reflected my playstyle and the people I played with more than the warrior job as a whole. Even if this is true, I can say it worked for me. At 4k and one inventory slot for a stack, I'll toss it out there as an idea that can work for anyone.
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#8 May 13 2009 at 11:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Isiolia wrote:
Could put in Carbonara as a possibility as well, as the Store TP can help hit a 6-hit if you lack other gear to make it work.


I'll take a look at Store TP food. I was actually going to check this later on, but I'll add it in today or tomorrow instead.


*** Added Carbonara, Carbonara +1, Ambrosia ***

Edited, May 13th 2009 2:29pm by Thydonon
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#9 May 14 2009 at 4:35 AM Rating: Good
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If this is a great axe food guide, the only reason you should mention sushi is to remind the reader to NOT use it.

Edited, May 14th 2009 8:39am by RedshiftOnPandy
#10 May 14 2009 at 4:48 AM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, it should be an allpurpose warrior food guide. You have them all there, just need to specify which are DW only! ^^
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#11 May 14 2009 at 4:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Reconsidering. Hmmm.... All purpose warrior food guide? I honestly don't even know what food to use after GA. Any suggestions?

Edited, May 14th 2009 8:06am by Thydonon
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#12 May 14 2009 at 5:10 AM Rating: Excellent
Well the ideal should always be aiming for a meat build. You should never need to resort to sushi on gaxe, but there are times when fighting IT mobs that meat just wont cut it on axe or sword.

Sword chucks on gods, or axe/sword, I'm told that most people won't be able to roll a meat build if they want haste.

That said, if you arent using gaxe in those situations, urdoinitwrong...



I've confused myself so I don't know what that post must be doing to you...


Right: Simple: pre 75, and at some merit camps (namely mamool) it can be adviseable for weapons other than greataxe to use acc foods, such as sushi. In general if you can afford it, pizza will probably serve you best, unless you expect to be dying.

Phew.


store tp foods are reall just for a 2h build, because shaving off a hit to 100% means a lot less when you are DW.

So maybe make a note next to storetp food and sushi explaining that they are situational, and not to be used in all circumstances.

I think that should be clear...


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#13 May 14 2009 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Since someone doesn't get and rather rate down than say something,

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Bream Sushi
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Sole Sushi


Does not compute. Sushi is never and option for great axe.
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#14 May 14 2009 at 9:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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RedshiftOnPandy wrote:
Since someone doesn't get and rather rate down than say something,

Quote:
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Bream Sushi
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Sole Sushi


Does not compute. Sushi is never and option for great axe.



I wasn't the one that rated you down. I don't learn anything new by getting people to agree with me. Maybe you can give a better alternative here. I know I was in level sync parties that would be synced at a level higher than I was at in order to give a Paladin or White Mage a spell. If a warrior is in that party at level 58 and they are at a level 60 camp, then what food should they use? I thought Bream Sushi was a good option, but it looks like this one is getting the hair on the back of your neck up.

And I'll say it with you: I think that Sole Sushi is a poor choice for a Great Axe Warrior when you consider the other options out there. But I want to leave it in the guide because in a lot of the parties I was in people acted like if you didn't use Sushi you were a punk. People who read this guide can say "Sushi is good, but I get more as a warrior using a Great Axe off of Marinara Pizza +1" instead of wondering if they are doing something wrong.

But, that does leave the question out there what food would you recommend to the level 58 warrior in this example? To anyone who can offer the advice for this mythical 58 GA warrior I say thank you.

P.S. Seeing as how this guide is a work in progress I welcome differing opinions. I actually asked for people to argue with me. RedShiftOnPandy was doing me a favor, and by extension, everyone who would read this post a favor. Giving Redshift a Rate Up.
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#15 May 14 2009 at 9:46 AM Rating: Excellent
Were I leveling again, I'd carry a pizza with me, and a stack of mithkabobs. If that situation arose, I would use the pizza. If I died or it got stolen by a colibri or w/e, I'd switch to mithkabobs. Your acc shouldnt take that huge a hit. At 58 as war there is a whole realm of acc gear to pick from. Massive overkill on things like birds. You shouldnt have any issues.

Also, at 58, you should be catching up quickly, xp at that time is a joke.
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#16 May 14 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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if you like red curry get the nq of it yellow curry, aside from dragon/hellsteak/redcurry it gives the best str/att%cap that i found after obsessively searching
the pages of food and effects my friends printed out. it has been awhile but i believe it capped out @100base600att but this was about 1.5 ago so i might be a little fuzzy on on the %
#17 May 14 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Yellow Curry isn't a NQ of anything except itself, and aside from being cheaper there's no obvious benefit to using it over Red Curry that I can see.
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#18 May 14 2009 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yellow curry is just coeurl subs in a 3 hour format.
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#19 May 14 2009 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I wasn't trying to imply it was you, and I don't really care if there's a good reason to rate me down (usually there is). I lol irl most of the time when it happens.

I don't know what spell your WHM or PLD learned at lv60, because looking through their spell lists, along with SCH, RDM and BLM subs spell list, nothing at all stands out as useful. If you were fighting colibri, which you might have been, could have used a polearm and spammed kabobs or crab sushi (just as cheap as kabobs) depending on if you have a BRD or COR throwing ACC buff for one handers or other polearm WARs/SAMs. If you don't have polearm skilled for birds, then would have just spammed kabobs.

If you were at another camp, I'd guess green crawlers or puks? The chance of dying to those is pretty low since they don't have any abilities that would seriously injure you, so you could use longer lasting foods like Hedgehog Pie. But I'd wager that you don't have much ACC gear yet, not being high enough to use Haub sucks (most don't bother with SH for 2 levels), so probably Pizza +1 would be ideal (+1 is cheap as hell, you don't have much reason to use NQ).

Unless you're skilling up great axe, there is absolutely no reason to use sushi.

EDIT: Never understood why people used Yellow Curry, it really is just a 3hr coeurl sub.

Edited, May 14th 2009 5:19pm by RedshiftOnPandy
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#20 May 14 2009 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Rice dumplings --> lvl 50's birdies. Starting then I used Meat kabobs or crab sushi (when lvl synching had left me WAY under cap). When I got to imps I used Couerl Subs and Sanction food bonus. I realize that 3 hr foods are better in many ways but to be honest I never trust a pickup pt to last 3 hrs or the mages to keep me alive at Mamool merits. If I know the ppl its a diff story but 95% of the time I still use kabobs on birds or subs elsewhere.

That being said its a decent start at a guide and all the feedback you are getting will only help to clarify and tighten it up! I always appreciate when people take the time to make a guide because it creates something for future players to reference and it ALWAYS creates useful discussion. Rate up for all the ppl contributing ^^
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#21 May 14 2009 at 1:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, I've been looking over this. I still think due to level sync gimping skill ups and the occasional party that is synced above the warriors level a sushi should be on hand, from levels 50-74. At the very least, I think that an option should be put out there for warriors to use. Bream is the best for raw skilling up, better even than Sole. Pizza brings the accuracy and attack, but parties frequently don't last three hours.

Problem is, if you don't have Raw Fish Handling (high level cooking ability) you are going to pay through the nose for Bream Sushi.

Someone in here had the bright idea of using Crab Sushi for these situations. On my server it costs about half what Bream Sushi does. Also, while it does require Raw Fish Handling to make, the recipe caps at 50 putting it within reach of many more people who have already worked on cooking.

With all this in mind, I'm going to pull out Bream Sushi from the level 50-74 range and put in Crab Sushi in it's place.

Any thoughts on this change are appreciated. As always, thanks in advance.

P.S. I used the warrior 58 as a random example and I apologize if I wasn't clear about that. Thydonon is war 75, nin 37, sam 37, dnc 37, thf 25, mnk 18, rdm 54, whm 39, blm 40, sch 13, others lower, all jobs unlocked.


EDIT: Took out Bream from end game section as well after considering all the input given. Please keep it coming!

Edited, May 14th 2009 5:08pm by Thydonon
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#22 May 14 2009 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yellow curry is, for the purpose of a warrior, a three-hour Coeurl Sub. A single Yellow Curry runs 7k on my server, a stack of Coeurl Subs runs 14k. That means that you get the same time/gil for the two items and the Coeurl Subs have all the benefits of being 30-minute food (sharable, not wasting if the party does not run exactly three hours, etc...). I know this isn't the case for all servers, so I will put it in, but I'm gonna slap a warning on it too.
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