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#1 May 12 2009 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Hey all, I'm considering a comeback and if I can get my old guy brought back I'll be picking up the GA again. I've been kicking around gear rigs and considering what I can and cannot do without until I get a full set up.

For the most part, I'll be sticking to the standard gear for a war 75. I do have SAM 37, NIN 37, DNC 37, THF 25 available as well. BUT! I have run into a problem here.

Celata vs. Walahra Turban?

Celata: Def 22, Acc +3, Att +4, Eva -2
Walahra Turban: Def 0, HP +30, MP +30, Haste +5%

Now, I have no haste gear besides this. That said, every rig has it's first piece of haste gear. At what point do I make the switch between these head pieces? And is it a constant switch? After all, the big kitty in the sky is harder to hit than the birds at the merit camp.

As always, thanks in advance to all for the help. And if I missed this in a sticky I'm sorry. In my defense I just found out I have a torn meniscus and am on a lot of hydrocodone.

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#2 May 12 2009 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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Personally I would first pick up Dusk hands and feet (Or Unicorn Feet) off the AH and have the 10% haste that I "grew up" being told, and really not a bad choice since you're going to be wanting more haste anyway.

However, I believe the maths say that even just the Turban and the spells (Haste magics and Marches) is good just by itself, but I've only been good at practical advice, and not so much as the exact math behind that advice. I can say that I really like the italics mark up neither choice will hurt you to use either way.
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#3 May 12 2009 at 8:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd still use the Turban on it's own over the Celata or O-Hat (sans WS, of course), especially as lolgaxe said, you'll be getting Haste/Marches more often than not and filling in your hands/feet/legs/waist with more Haste gear as you grow, which makes the Haste that much more potent. Unless your acc is absolutely abysmal.

On the other hand, for tougher stuff, like Byakko, as you mentioned (and any NM over ~Lv85 really) most of us still swap in a lot of acc gear over Haste, depending on acc **** situational.

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#4 May 13 2009 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
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I forget what your Acc has to be for 3Acc to beat 5% haste, but I'm pretty sure it's somewhere around 50%.

Turban hands down for me.
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#5 May 13 2009 at 4:12 AM Rating: Excellent
If I remember right your acc has to be something like 70% for an Ohat to beat walmart. So For a celata to beat it it would be a whole lot lower.

In conclusion, Walahra Turbin>all.

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#6 May 13 2009 at 5:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok then, so everybody came to the same conclusion, go with the turban.

Sounds good to me!

Thanks much to all who took the time to respond. Now I just have to try to get my account reactivated. If I can, I'll be swingin' the GA by the end of the month :D
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#7 May 13 2009 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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TP: Turban
WS: Celata
#8 May 13 2009 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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TP: Turban
WS : O.hat

Edited, May 13th 2009 11:15am by Eladriek
#9 May 13 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Default
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Eladriek wrote:
TP: Turban
WS: O.hat


TP: Turban
WS: Adaman Celata
#10 May 13 2009 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
I forget what your Acc has to be for 3Acc to beat 5% haste, but I'm pretty sure it's somewhere around 50%.
Try more like 30%. Not to mention, that's with zero other haste aside from turban. If you already have 29% haste elsewhere (spells/JAs/gear), you're getting more DoT from haste than you would from accuracy with going from a 20% hit rate to 21.5% (the absolute largest bonus you could get out of the gear).
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#11 May 13 2009 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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TheSecretOfHorutoto wrote:
Eladriek wrote:
TP: Turban
WS: O.hat


TP: Turban
WS: Adaman Celata


this.
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#12 May 13 2009 at 3:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fairly sure if you need accuracy, o.hat is better than Adaman Celata, but I don't particularly care.
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