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# Crystalline Prophecy Body DW 3% TP affectFollow

Mar 25 2009 at 4:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Assuming my math is right, and wiki's formulae on TP returns are accurate, the following should show where the additional 3% DW will lower your TP gain. The first column is for people without a suppanomimi (15=>18), and the second column is for those with it(20=>23).

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Weapon combo		Total delay		15 to 18%	20 to 23%
Maneater/Iron ram pick	276+268=544	272	231.2	223.0	217.6	209.4
6.2	6.0	5.8/5.9	5.6
Woodville’s/Maneater	288+276=564	282	239.7	231.4	225.6	217.1
6.4	6.2	6.0	5.8
Maneater/Ridill		276+236=512	256	217.6	209.9	204.8	198.1
5.8/5.9	5.7	5.5	5.4
Maneater/joyeuse	276+224=500	250	212.5	205	200	192.5
5.7	5.6	5.4	5.2/5.3
Ridill/Joyeuse		236+224=460	230	195.5	188.6	184	177.1
Joyeuse/Justice		236+224=460
5.3	5.1/5.2	5.0	4.9
Company/Joyeuse		264+224=488	244	207.4	200.1	195.2	187.9
5.6	5.4	5.3	5.2
Blau/Joyeuse		178+224=402	201	170.8	164.8	160.8	154.7
4.9	4.8	4.8	4.7
Blau/sirocco		178+150=328	164	139.4	134.5	131.2	126.3
4.6	4.6	4.5	4.5
Mandau/Blau		176+178=354	177	150.4	145.1	141.6	136.3
4.7	4.7	4.6	4.6
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Mar 25 2009 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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You forgot G.Axe.

Seriously though, good work, etc.
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Mar 25 2009 at 6:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I love how he left out Juggernaut completely whilst including almost every other possible combo including using Iron Ram Pick in one & Company Sword in another.

This man deserves a huge @#%^ing medal. Down with Juggerfail!

Edited, Mar 25th 2009 10:29pm by TheSecretOfHorutoto
Mar 25 2009 at 8:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah but what does it do for your DoT?
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Mar 26 2009 at 2:32 AM Rating: Good
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Dynas wrote:
Yeah but what does it do for your DoT?
More than +10att at 75 will.
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Mar 27 2009 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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So, simple summary for those of us who are half mentally retarded? <3
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yeah warriors have a weakness, people thinking they're inferior in both tanking and DD because they can do both.

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Mar 27 2009 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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simple summary, nobody knows for sure yet.
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Mar 27 2009 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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WickedBear wrote:
So, simple summary for those of us who are half mentally retarded? <3

Something something you won't see in parse.

EDIT:
Your melee swing timer reset whenever you auto-target a new enemy.

Essentially, you're dealing with 30-40 seconds period (in merit PT), then after that your melee timer is reset on next mob (i.e. You only wait 1 seconds till next swing after you auto-targeted new mob).

Edited, Mar 27th 2009 7:17pm by VZX
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Mar 28 2009 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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Don't get DW+3% on the WAR/PLD/DRK/SAM/DRG body, please...
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Mar 28 2009 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't get DW+3% on the WAR/PLD/DRK/SAM/DRG body, please...

If you only care about war on that list & like dual wield builds aswell as greataxe, i don't see any reason not to do 10acc & 3%DW.
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Mar 28 2009 at 7:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't get DW+3% on the WAR/PLD/DRK/SAM/DRG body, please...

...why not? if i had adaberk, i'd use that for GA or DW. if i had haub(+1), i'd use that for GA, and new body for DW. i wouldn't use anything lesser than those two for GA, unless perhaps ACC requirement was low enough to allow askar. new body is a total waste for GA WAR. if you're all about WAR and you occasionally DW, why not get the DW body? you can supposedly re-quest it, and even if you couldn't, why get it and downgrade out of haub with it for GA? the .5% DoT bonus in the tiny % of situations where 2% more DA might outdo 10ATT?
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Mar 28 2009 at 9:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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The more I look at it (the augmented armors), the more it looks like a pretty big collective sigh for two handed weapon users. I'll play conspiracy theorist here and say it was designed in favor of one handed weapons because Square isn't really satisfied with how the formula changes turned out and didn't want to meddle with them anymore.
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Mar 31 2009 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
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You forgot G.Axe.

Because you can't dual wield Greataxes.....yet

Edited, Mar 31st 2009 12:03pm by Asier
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Apr 01 2009 at 2:47 AM Rating: Good
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Asier wrote:
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You forgot G.Axe.
Because you can't dual wield Greataxes.....yet
One of the few things I actually liked about WoW a lot.
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Apr 02 2009 at 12:59 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Asier wrote:
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You forgot G.Axe.
Because you can't dual wield Greataxes.....yet
One of the few things I actually liked about WoW a lot.
I'd love a barbarian class. That can only wear subligar, and dual wield 2h...
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Apr 02 2009 at 1:36 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Asier wrote:
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You forgot G.Axe.
Because you can't dual wield Greataxes.....yet
One of the few things I actually liked about WoW a lot.

I was always upset they wouldn't let me dual wield thunderfurys ; ;
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yeah warriors have a weakness, people thinking they're inferior in both tanking and DD because they can do both.

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Apr 02 2009 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Grandmother MojoVIII wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Asier wrote:
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You forgot G.Axe.
Because you can't dual wield Greataxes.....yet
One of the few things I actually liked about WoW a lot.
I'd love a barbarian class. That can only wear subligar, and dual wield 2h...
That was basically my Cow in WoW. If I logged in I could actually remember the names of the weapons, but I main handeded the two handed axe from the Halls of Thunder boss (Heroics version), and the two handed sword from Ebon Holds' Rep items.
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Apr 02 2009 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
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lolgaxe wrote:
Grandmother MojoVIII wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Asier wrote:
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You forgot G.Axe.
Because you can't dual wield Greataxes.....yet
One of the few things I actually liked about WoW a lot.
I'd love a barbarian class. That can only wear subligar, and dual wield 2h...
That was basically my Cow in WoW. If I logged in I could actually remember the names of the weapons, but I main handeded the two handed axe from the Halls of Thunder boss (Heroics version), and the two handed sword from Ebon Holds' Rep items.

I'm so happy I don't know what a Heroic is. I still think Ragnaros is endgame.
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Warlord choryukami wrote:
yeah warriors have a weakness, people thinking they're inferior in both tanking and DD because they can do both.

"Each event is preceeded by prophecy. But without the hero there is no event"
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Apr 02 2009 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
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I'm so happy I don't know what a Heroic is. I still think Ragnaros is endgame.

I'm so glad I never played WoW and don't know what EITHER of those are.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 8:51am by MikeSeyton
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Heroics would be the HQ dungeons ... they were called Heroics, right? I forget ... but yeah. They're not bad at first, but really, it's almost no better than the hurdles you have to jump through in FFXI. People like to say that WoW doesn't have stupid time sinks like FFXI does, but it does. Kind of frustrating, really. Meh, I haven't logged in since ... early January, I think.
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