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#1 Mar 23 2009 at 3:20 AM Rating: Good
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This is the base armor for WAR:

Nuevo Corsolete
Def49 hp+20 Str+5 Dex+5 vit+5
War/Pld/Drk/Sam/Drg
Addable stats!
Attack+10
Acc+10
Ranged Attack+10
Ranged acc+10
Evasion+10
Magic Acc+4(Why less for mages square;-;)
Magic attack+4
Double attack +2%
Critcal Hit rate +3%
Store tp+4 Stuble blow +4(Package deal)
Emnitity +5
Emnitity -5
Enhances fast cast(5%)
Call beast ability delay -15
Snapshot+5%
Blood pact Ability delay-4
Avatar prep cost -2
Quick draw Delay -5
Pet: Accuracy Ranged Accuracy +15
Pet: Attack ranged attack +15
Pet: Magic Accuracy Magic Attack +7
Pet: Double attack critical hit rate +2%


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While some is not good for WAR some of these could make for an intresting new body piece what are everyones views?
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#2 Mar 23 2009 at 3:29 AM Rating: Good
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From what I understand you can add two stats onto these armors correct? If that were the case I would think that adding the 10 ACC and 2% Double Attack would make it a pretty sick WS body piece.
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#3 Mar 23 2009 at 3:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd probably go with 10acc and Enhance Dual Wield (+3%). The 10att won't be that much of an impact on Great Axe, and even if it was I could just use a normal Haubergeon for it. The Store TP is pretty redundant, as you can already reduce a hit with Rajas and Brutal and such. Maybe Enhanced Double Attack (2%) for Great Axe exclusive people, but my personal playstyle is too random to get the most use out of it.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 8:49am by lolgaxe
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#5 Mar 23 2009 at 5:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd put in fast cast for recast timers on WAR and PLD. If you look at the POL message, theres 2 other similar armors.
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#6 Mar 23 2009 at 5:16 AM Rating: Good
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ACC +10 and DA +2 for me.

Trumps hauby, but by a very small margin...

Id go with the DA simply because it is effective on anything you happen to be using, two handed, dual weapons, weapon and shield, whatever.
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I'm thinking 3% Enhanced DW and +10 AC for DW builds....

edit: someone already mentioned this

Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 9:42am by Greeve
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I am really on the fence hoping you guys make some good arguments here on what to choose.

I am really leaning twords 10 acc and Fast Cast. Because frankly thats dam good for PLD tanking.

U could obviously fully replace hauby by 10 acc and 10 attack

But DA or Crit look nice too.

So I have to narrow it down. Which of the following 2. Hmmmmm


Acc+10

Double attack +2%

Critcal Hit rate +3%

Enhances fast cast(5%)
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#9 Mar 23 2009 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Personally I don't see this piece as being as huge a boon to wars compared to other classes that lack the ability to wear a hauby. Perhaps I'm missing some obvious greatness somewhere though.
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Tyleron wrote:
I am really on the fence hoping you guys make some good arguments here on what to choose.

I am really leaning twords Enmity+5 and Fast Cast. Because frankly thats dam good for PLD tanking.


This is what immediately jumped out at me for PLD tanking, I don't understand the fascination with accuracy.

As for WAR, I don't know really but the Fast Cast could still be useful for Utsusemi casting.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 3:44pm by TheSecretOfHorutoto
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ACC +10 and DA +2 for me.

Trumps hauby, but by a very small margin...

Id go with the DA simply because it is effective on anything you happen to be using, two handed, dual weapons, weapon and shield, whatever.


no it doesn't... 10ATT vs 2%DA on top of 17% or so DA? 10ATT usually wins.

very underwhelming for WAR. i would think 10ACC, 3% dual wield for axe/axe, axe/sword, sword/sword users (dagger/sword bird camp users as well perhaps). "but i don't do that **** on my WAR!" i sympathize, but GA won't benefit from any of those configurations more than it does from common body armor like haub(+1).
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So let me just make sure I have this correct, this is the end prize for completing the mini expansion? Where we can only pick one of those three? So these are supposed to be good augments? I could only imagine other augments for gear we already have is going to be worse or it's only going to be on sh*tty gear no one uses. so I'm a little underwhelmed tbh...

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Nuevo Corsolete
Def49 hp+20 Str+5 Dex+5 vit+5
War/Pld/Drk/Sam/Drg
Addable stats!
Attack+10
Acc+10
Ranged Attack+10
Ranged acc+10
Evasion+10
Magic Acc+4(Why less for mages square;-;)
Magic attack+4
Double attack +2%
Critcal Hit rate +3%
Store tp+4 Stuble blow +4(Package deal)
Emnitity +5
Emnitity -5
Enhances fast cast(5%)
Call beast ability delay -15
Snapshot+5%
Blood pact Ability delay-4
Avatar prep cost -2
Quick draw Delay -5
Pet: Accuracy Ranged Accuracy +15
Pet: Attack ranged attack +15
Pet: Magic Accuracy Magic Attack +7
Pet: Double attack critical hit rate +2%


Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 4:25pm by RedshiftOnPandy
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#13 Mar 23 2009 at 12:22 PM Rating: Default
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You guys mention DW reduction, but I don't see that on the list anywhere, maybe I'm lolblind D=
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I originally wrote:

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I am really leaning twords 10 acc and Fast Cast. Because frankly thats dam good for PLD tanking.





TheSecretOfHorutoto wrote:
Tyleron wrote:
I am really on the fence hoping you guys make some good arguments here on what to choose.

I am really leaning twords Enmity+5 and Fast Cast. Because frankly thats dam good for PLD tanking.


This is what immediately jumped out at me for PLD tanking, I don't understand the fascination with accuracy.

As for WAR, I don't know really but the Fast Cast could still be useful for Utsusemi casting.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 3:44pm by TheSecretOfHorutoto


Acc for Attonement. Currently, I don't do much kiting on pld, thus, enimity is not really needed, as you can get plenty from other slots.

But this is more of a pld discusion.

What do you guys think for purely War build. All I see is a haub.






Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 2:32pm by Tyleron
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#15 Mar 23 2009 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Doubt it'l beat my hauby+1 for WAR, looks pretty nice for my DRG tho ^^
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TheSecretOfHorutoto wrote:
This is what immediately jumped out at me for PLD tanking, I don't understand the fascination with accuracy.


Atonement. Even using Chivalry or Spirits Within beats sitting there whiffing away at the mob. The days of the PLD that can't do any damage to anything are over, but there are plenty of people that still play in years past.

On topic, I can't see any use for WAR beyond specialty situations, any thoughts from the math guys?
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Personally I don't see this piece as being as huge a boon to wars compared to other classes that lack the ability to wear a hauby. Perhaps I'm missing some obvious greatness somewhere though.


Agreed. Definitely gonna go with Mirke for my can't-wear-Hauby jobs. Smiley: cry
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Solrain wrote:
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Personally I don't see this piece as being as huge a boon to wars compared to other classes that lack the ability to wear a hauby. Perhaps I'm missing some obvious greatness somewhere though.


Agreed. Definitely gonna go with Mirke for my can't-wear-Hauby jobs. Smiley: cry
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You guys mention DW reduction, but I don't see that on the list anywhere, maybe I'm lolblind D=
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#20 Mar 23 2009 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Anyone crunch the maths on the 10 acc, 3% dual wield option yet? how does it stack up against haubergeon for axe/sword builds?

Edited, Mar 23rd 2009 7:32pm by Demonviper
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TheSecretOfHorutoto wrote:
This is what immediately jumped out at me for PLD tanking, I don't understand the fascination with accuracy.


Atonement. Even using Chivalry or Spirits Within beats sitting there whiffing away at the mob. The days of the PLD that can't do any damage to anything are over, but there are plenty of people that still play in years past.
However pld already have plenty options to get accuracy in the body, you can idle in homam/hauby and switch to this beauty for flash utsu and cures.

Eminty+5 and Fast Cast is the BEST option for PLD hands down(and in my opinion the best combo for this armor), possible that put this armor on par with Hydra Haubert that will remain more likely harder to get.

Sadly on topic, not much to play around for war, I feel from our group, Sam, War and Drk are more likely to ignore it in favor of a better piece for Drg and Pld.

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#22 Mar 23 2009 at 6:19 PM Rating: Excellent
I think we are agreed: not great for war.

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I don't think it's horrible, and let's face it, some gear is released and some jobs hit the jackpot and others don't. We're lucky that it at least has a situational use. Seems kind of useless for Dark Knight all together.
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I don't think it's horrible, and let's face it, some gear is released and some jobs hit the jackpot and others don't. We're lucky that it at least has a situational use. Seems kind of useless for Dark Knight all together.


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Honestly.. its better then them picking the stats FOR YOU haha. I kinda like how their going to let each person customize it for their particular use. Make it a tank piece, a recast piece, a WS piece, GAXE piece / ect.. But for us, this is basically like a NQ Haub without the -evasion. But the other guys can definitely use these. (NIN with Acc+10 DW+3%)
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Since with the customized item, every jobs can pretty much get the same stats on their body piece. If the customized item doesn't boost much for the war, sam, drk job... that basicly means that we already have good option for the body slot. I don't feel we are shafted, i just feel happy for the other job, cuz we already have something better!
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#27 Mar 25 2009 at 5:44 AM Rating: Good
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This may stop wars from wearing clearly inferior gear just because they do not like the look of a haub. Now they can have a haub that doesn't look like a haub.
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I don't think these armors will change anything for the jobs I play currently. I will have a very hard time choosing what I want to get out of this armor.

I dunno if I want to relegate a piece like this to situational macro usage. It seems useful for drg, who gets to use neither hauby or enkidu.
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This may stop wars from wearing clearly inferior gear just because they do not like the look of a haub. Now they can have a haub that doesn't look like a haub.



Too bad this looks even worse lol
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