Rune Chopper and Balrahn's Ring...Follow

I am thinking of this... It sounds kinda silly, but I want to know if it works out in your head as well as it does in mine.

Currently my gear set I use in Nyzul is:

Perdu/Pole/____/Bombcore
Turban/PCC/Ethereal(fowling)/Brutal
Haub/Dusk/Blood/Rajas
Amemet+1/Swift/Haidate/Dusk

The thing is that I chose Balrahn's from ToAU. I use Ethereal because Acc is not as useful in Nyzul for most targets.

If I got Refresh Sanction and wore Balrahn's ring, I'd have a 2tic refresh plus any damage-mp from ethereal. This would allow me to remove my dusk feet and wear amir for the made up ring stats while capping gear haste.

The main purpose of this is because I tank nyzul and doing things like Chariots make me sad. I'd REALLY love the reduced utsusemi timers. My major concearn is whether or not gaining that extra tic from balrahns plus any damage taken (ethereal) would increase the activation of the chopper above the 50% value or not.

Am I crazy?

Edited, Mar 19th 2009 3:45pm by LordMnementh

There's been a few times I've merited with Rune Chopper and Refresh Sanction (no refresh ring) and I was getting 2 MP a tic. So, you should getting 3 MP a tic with ring. However, keep in mind that the strength of the Sanction effect has to do with the Imperial Defense, or something like that. If you look up the Glory Crown on Wiki, it talks about how all the works.

Sanction Refresh is always 1MP/tick. Imperial Defense Rating simply affects the range that it will take effect in.



I think it'd depend in part on how much of a base pool you have to work with, and what sort of time between fights you wind up with.

Obviously without a full 3MP/tick or better, you're going to be losing MP over time when engaged, limiting how long it'd be good for. However, if you've got, say, full MP merits, then that 80MP alone would keep the latent going for approximately the same number of seconds.
If you're recovering 2 out of the 3MP/tick, then it's only draining your base MP (well, once Sanction takes effect) at 1MP/tick, then recovering it at 2MP/tick between mobs.

Still, say, 60MP with 2MP/tick would be 180 seconds of 100% activation before you'd run dry and get the effect 50% of the time, right? Before even taking Ethereal converted MP into account.

You can get Strange Juice at the start for a 5 minute, 2MP/tick Refresh. Maybe from crates too. If you were really concerned, maybe bring some juices to use too.

I think you could make it work pretty well, provided you have some buffer MP and aren't just relying on the MP/tick to fuel it. In that line of thought, arranging gear swaps to not pull out incidental MP pieces (or put other in instead) might be worthwhile. For example, while you may not have them yet, Askar feet have 30MP on them. If you're swapping out Turban for WS, maybe swap those in instead of Hecatomb to maintain that pool.

All I know is with Sanction Refresh, I was only losing 1 MP a tic except when the RDM would refresh me. I thought it was a little odd myself as I always thought Sanction Refresh was 1 MP a tic also, but I figured it had something to do with the Imp. Defense thing or maybe being Captain, I don't know. And to my knowledge, Rune Chopper costs 3 MP a tic when engaged.

Edited, Mar 19th 2009 7:16pm by MinscandBoo

Reason to use Askar Feet (Found it!)

Sanction Refresh has always been 1mp/tic. I use it on dragoon all the time since all I do is solo /mage and it helps a ton.

I think Ken is right, to extrapolate a whole minute: If I started at say, 10 MP...

 
tic    mp(before effect)    rune effect    mp(after effect) 
1      10                   yes            7 
2      9                    yes            6 
3      8                    yes            5 
4      7                    yes            4 
5      6                    yes            3 
6      5                    yes            2 
7      4                    yes            1 
8      3                    yes            0 (next tic, it should see 0) 
9      2                    no             2  
10     4                    yes            1 
11     3                    yes            0 (next tic, it should see 0) 
12     2                    no             2 
13     4                    yes            1 
14     3                    yes            0 (next tic, it should see 0) 
15     2                    no             2 
16     4                    yes            1 
17     3                    yes            0 (next tic, it should see 0) 
18     2                    no             2 
19     4                    yes            1 
20     3                    yes            0 (next tic, it should see 0) 

So... if I started from 10 MP, at 3 seconds per tic, i'd have 48 seconds of activation and 12 seconds of inactivation. 80% on, 20% off. If between battles my MP was allowed to regen to 10, It would start over again. This is just with 1 MP merit though, and I have 3.



Yeah no brd for me. Currently when we run into boss chariots I just have to pray I don't get aoe -> aoe -> double critical. We just depend on our healing power. I really feel like a mp drain on these things so any help would be kickass.

Thanks for all the responses guys :)

Edited, Mar 20th 2009 11:26am by LordMnementh

If you want to reduce timers, you could also just swap in Blitz Ring and Loq Earring for casting, would make for less headaches than dealing with Rune Latent.

Nope, if you have any mp the effect will activate but a constant refrest of less than 3 mp per tick will only keep it up about half the time.