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#1 Mar 18 2009 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't have Kitty pants yet, I TP in Armada Pants, I am not sure with should I use for Raging Rush, Armada Pants or War. Relic Pants? does it worth to give up 7 acc and 7 att for 4 str and +1 DA? will I notice the difference? Thanks for your time.
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#2 Mar 18 2009 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Stick with the armada pants.
#3 Mar 18 2009 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Stick with the armada pants.
This.

Acc > Att > STR > DEX for multihit WS, unless you're capping Acc.


Also never use DEX- gear, due to the citical nature of the WS it can be detrimental.
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#4 Mar 18 2009 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the quick reply, that answered my quest. Here are my setups

TP: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?195787
WS: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?155826

Any tips to optimize the setup will be greatly appreciated.
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#5 Mar 18 2009 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Stuff you probobably already know:

Byakko's Haidate
Dusk Gloves
Swift Belt
PCC
Walmart Turban

Stuff you might not know:

Potent Belt dosn't really perform any different from Life Belt. That being said you may aswell get the cheaper option. But, it's your gil I guess.

WS setup looks sound for RR. Depending on the mob you may wanna use Life/Potent over Warwolf though.
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#6 Mar 18 2009 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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...E.Body and N.Head but no Haidate?

/sigh

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Askar Head or Turban
Peacock Amulet
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Sea Gorget
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#7 Mar 18 2009 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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...E.Body and N.Head but no Haidate?

/sigh


My main is DRK, on a bottom of a long list for kitty pants ;; , didn't really bother with a haste setup since I only have 4 Gaxe merits and no Haidate..
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#8 Mar 18 2009 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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The "you should have 10% haste before bothering with haste" guideline is kind of old. 1 point of Haste will increase your DoT by 1% whether you have 1 haste, 3 haste or 10 haste. I.E you should use haste where it is better than your current gear whether you have Haidate or not.

Edited, Mar 18th 2009 4:13pm by LordMnementh
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The "you should have 10% haste before bothering with haste" guideline is kind of old. 1 point of Haste will increase your DoT by 1% whether you have 1 haste, 3 haste or 10 haste.


Well, you'll also generally have at least the Haste spell on you to build from anyway, if not Marches and all.
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WulfSISO wrote:
My main is DRK, on a bottom of a long list for kitty pants ;; , didn't really bother with a haste setup since I only have 4 Gaxe merits and no Haidate..


Don't let the lack of Haidate deter you from using a Haste setup. Acc-wise, you're not missing much (acc is basically the same between Armada and Haidate) and you have more than enough other great gear that will let you switch from your current acc/atk setup to a more Hastey flavor. My generic recommendations:

Dusk Gloves: You may have Homam from DRK (considering the rest of your gear, you may even be able to switch from Homam > Dusk on that job too) but a worthwhile purchase none the less.

Swift Belt: Not much to say here - you'll lose 5 acc, 5 atk and 3 STR for 4% Haste. Worthwhile imo. Keep it for WS, obviously. Or switch to Life/Warwolf, like Nila said, which is what I do too.

Turban/Askar Zuchetto: Bla bla, Haste in the head slot bla bla.

Together with your Aurum Boots, that's 14% Haste (13% with Askar Zuchetto), which is still nothing to scoff at. Couple that Haste with your already great acc gear, merits, Haste/March and you're golden. Haidate are obviously best but you're pretty fucking solid as it is.

P.S. - Kinda joking, but pull the "OMFG I have a god damn Adaberk for Christ's sakes! Move me up the Haidate list!" on your LS. Smiley: lol
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#11 Mar 18 2009 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
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I've been 75WAR for almost a year now(I think), I only got my kitty shorts last week. I've been rocking a haste setup since 72 though iirc. Totally worth it!
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#12 Mar 19 2009 at 2:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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...E.Body and N.Head but no Haidate?
I've known several people like that, actually. We were at a point of doing Ground much more than Sky, so it just happened that way. Kind of hilarious to see E.Bodies and Barone shorts, really.
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So, I put on my Turban, swift belt, dusk gloves when out merit for a little, the result is amazing!! thanks for the Tips guys :D It's a 2 war, 2 sam, brd, whm Bird PT.. Maybe I'll try Rune Chopper with refresh sanction next time =X

[IMG]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/wulf5150/meritPT.jpg[/IMG]

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WulfSISO wrote:
Maybe I'll try Rune Chopper with refresh sanction next time =X

No.

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...E.Body and N.Head but no Haidate?

He's scared of hieghts! Lulz
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WulfSISO wrote:
So, I put on my Turban, swift belt, dusk gloves when out merit for a little, the result is amazing!! thanks for the Tips guys :D It's a 2 war, 2 sam, brd, whm Bird PT.. Maybe I'll try Rune Chopper with refresh sanction next time =X
It's a little better, but you'd honestly be better off with something like Byakko's and, ultimately, Perdu.

Or Maneater/Iron Ram Pick/Joyeuse, but that's just inviting bandwagon mockery. Use if your skin is thick enough to not be bothered by words.
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WulfSISO wrote:
So, I put on my Turban, swift belt, dusk gloves when out merit for a little, the result is amazing!! thanks for the Tips guys :D It's a 2 war, 2 sam, brd, whm Bird PT.. Maybe I'll try Rune Chopper with refresh sanction next time =X
It's a little better, but you'd honestly be better off with something like Byakko's and, ultimately, Perdu.

Or Maneater/Iron Ram Pick/Joyeuse, but that's just inviting bandwagon mockery. Use if your skin is thick enough to not be bothered by words.
And omfg 2% parse difference amirite?
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Mittens had Ebody and Ridill before Haidate iirc
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I miss mittens Smiley: glare
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I learned a lot from him, Grumpy, LT, and Quor.
(Like how to +1.)

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I learned a lot from him, Grumpy, LT, and Quor.
(Like how to +1.)

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Would Hachiryu kotes be any good for Raging Rush or should we stick with Hecatombs hands(agressor down)| Alky's bracelets(agressor up)?
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I wouldn't touch Alkys at all, and while Hachiryu Kote is a nice chunk of DEX, I wouldn't think the 6 DEX would outweigh the 7 STR you're giving up between them and Hecatomb.
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#23 Mar 27 2009 at 3:34 AM Rating: Good
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I still need my Hecatomb Mitts. Stupid Byakko, dropped his shorts now won't gimme my Abjuration! D:
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#24 Mar 27 2009 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I still need my Hecatomb Mitts. Stupid Byakko, dropped his shorts now won't gimme my Abjuration! D:


That's the way it was for the long amount of time I was waiting for mine. Then after I got it they started dropping every time since. We've had like 6 in a row lately.

And OMG Suzaku finally dropped N feet last night for the first time in months, which puts me next on the list. Smiley: eek
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#25 Mar 27 2009 at 4:39 AM Rating: Good
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I was first in line for Haidate when I got my N Hands Abj from him. After 5 or so no-haidate kills I was so pissed he didn't drop the Haidate that I don't think I really appreciated them as much as I should have.

They are one of my favorite pieces of gear now, though. :)
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