I never had askar hands on in either gear set so by adding turban you are going to 19% haste, not 20%.
Ahh, you're correct, my apology.
If 100% capped with hauby and agressor down, tehn you drop a woodsman for blitz, and it's the same 2% increase in haste then, all math still applies.
It's just a very small window where askar out performs.
Lacking key items for War, that push you into more Acc than you would normally use, taking the Acc on hauby out of the picture. I mean, at least to me, it seems pretty basic that if you're capped on accuracy at all times, hauby isn't very valuable, because it just comes out as a Str+5 Att+10 piece, which is less than Byrnie. (exception for the dbl brd + zerk description you've laid out, I'm just speaking in general now)
But for that scenario to come up, it's a very small window of oppurtunity. Capped merits, no brutal, no rajas, with a dbl brd party, and still only come out ahead by 2k dmg over an hour. It's an unrealistic comparison, very a very rare and specific scenario. Actually, I'm curious of the Fourth Toparak + Hauby scenario vs askar in teh case of no rajas, because technically, that's what your 2 real options would have been. I'll do tha math in a sec, but for people who understand the fstr, pdif etc, can you answer this for me:
Assuming capped accuracy, instead of Hauby VS Askar, would Zahak's mail make an appearance in the debate? (Even our old lolosode, lil cheaper, easier to get hands on)
Would the Zahaks Mail: [Body] All Races
DEF:55 STR+10 DEX+10 Evasion-20 Critical hit rate +3%
LV 71 WAR PLD DRK BST DRG
Out perform Askar in capped Accuracy?
Or out perform Byrnie+1?
I guess my "real" question is, I'm looking for the most optimal set up to use for my "aggressor up" gearset, where my Hauby is overkill. As stated earlier, I was going to just use Askar, but was informed Byrnie would outperform, which is great, because should save me a lot of shouting, time in nyzul and frustrastion of being out lotted, lol. So I'm curious how the 3% crit and 10Str compare to bynie's (or brynie +1 as well) 3str and 20att (5str/25att for +1) in the average party.
Meaning 1 Brd using Dbl march, haste spell, 17% DA rate, 19% haste, Perdu Voulge w/ Rajas, and an assumed 93% hit rate avg.
Perdu / Pole / X / Bomblet
Walmart / PCC / Assault / Brutal
Hauby / Dusk / Rajas / Ultha
Cerb / Swift / Byakko / Aurum
Is what I currently use full time.
For Aggressor up, I'm looking for a new Body, and I'll prolly Macro in Blitz Ring over Ultha's as well.
I'm curious if the new body should be Zahak or Byrnie+1.
(Although Ares, Aurum, HachiRyu, Shadow Breastplate are sexy, they're out of realistic range for me. Well, Aurum isn't but, it's ugly.
Which... Actually brings another question... Wouldn't Aurum out perform Askar body even in the situation KWileyStyle layed out? Meaning even in that tiny window of chance at a hope Askar had, just got closed up. Leaving the last use for Askar, the pole arm X hit on birds as /sam?
Apologies for the scattered brain thoughts.
ADD, go figure.
Edit: KWileyStyle, if you post the new WS dmg Avg, and Dmg per hit for Fourth Toporak, I'll do the rest of the math, just out of curiosity, but I don't quite understand pdif, fstr, wpn base dmg and those higher levels of calculation, to figure that stuff out. You give me the numbers, I can plug them in, lol. Edited, Mar 19th 2009 11:27pm by Gerkin