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#1 Mar 09 2009 at 10:52 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, im a level 18 war and recently unlocked my subjob ability. I want to do the most damage possible. I have none of the unlockable jobs yet, so here is my question. What is the best subjob for DD given that I have only the jobs you start with? AND what is the best subjob for DD out of all the jobs in the game? Thanks.

PS - I have been lvling Mnk but i guess that is for Tanking? I dont know thats what i heard... /cry
#2 Mar 10 2009 at 12:37 AM Rating: Excellent
What you need to do is level mnk to 18 and use that as sub for war until 37.

Then unlock ninja and level that to 37.

Then level war to 75 and kill stuff and ****


Mnk is the BEST subjob for war until 30 no matter what jobs you have unlocked. And whether you want to DD or tank, you do it in the same way on war, because you WILL pull hate. Look at the guide to tanking war/mnk in the top page of this forum, it will help you out.
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#3 Mar 10 2009 at 2:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Like Mojo said, /MNK will serve you best throughout the lower to mid levels. Some people will ask you to /NIN the moment you hit 20 and/or 24 (Dual Wield and Utsusemi lvls, respectively) which is, to put it bluntly, fucking retarded, especially if you're using Gaxe. Higher levels, /NIN or /SAM start to pull ahead - /SAM with Gaxe and /NIN with axe/Gaxe. /DRG is also very viable with the latent effect SJ items, but for a first-job WAR, the cost is very prohibitive.

I can speak for myself and I'm sure many others when I say that /MNK is what got us hooked on this job in the first place, most likely tanking in the Jungles.

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I want to do the most damage possible.


The sheer beauty of /MNK is that you'll be able to tank while doing the most damage possible and most likely the most damage in your PT. You get Counter, which let's you nullify an enemy's attack while taking no damage yourself, Boost for mini-Provoke-like hate (keep in mind, this resets your attack round delay, when most times you'll get more hate and damage by hitting the mob, but still nice to have), Max HP Boost at /MNK15, Dodge at /MNK15 also (WAR has pretty abysmal evasion skill, but every little bit helps, especially at lower levels).

Laugh as the NIN or /NIN tanks try to tank MNK mandy mobs with their petty shadows while you smack them in the face with your giant axe.
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#4 Mar 10 2009 at 3:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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HAND what is the best subjob for DD out of all the jobs in the game?
There really isn't one, just depends how you gear yourself.
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#5 Mar 10 2009 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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From a Purely DD perspective, it goes as follows:

/MNK from 1-30(Assuming you have SJ right from level 1)

/DRG from 30-50(Assuming you have Wyvern Mantle & Earring)

/SAM from 50-75(More or less)

In addition to these you'll want to have /NIN and /DNC available. For when your party's tank can't handle you going balls-to-the-wall DMG the whole time. Damage mitigation is very important for any Damage Dealer. Lessens the burden on your party's mages, working out to higher EXP/Hour, if you get it just right.
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#6elvaanwolf, Posted: Mar 12 2009 at 8:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dnc is the best sub. no comparison. are you a **** you are if you sub nin. do the @#%^ing riverdance.
#7 Mar 12 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Answered in 5 posts, time for a de-rail. Anyone seen Watchmen? I thought it was pretty 1337.

Edited, Mar 12th 2009 12:39pm by clatuu
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#8 Mar 12 2009 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
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Blue **** and rape, can't really go wrong.
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I thought the ending was interesting. Very different from any other movie I have seen. My only beefs were the blue **** in every other scene and sitting two seats away from my mentally challenged brother for three hours.
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#10 Mar 13 2009 at 1:50 AM Rating: Good
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srsly. If you are going to watchmen you expect to see a lot of male nudity, just accept it and try enjoy the film.

Pros:
1)A beauty to look at, with a modern feel given to classic style superhero comic outfits, that I felt really made the whole thing look better on screen then a direct translation would have.

2) Lovely juxtaposition (love being sesquipadalial) of origional artwork and storyboard, with familiar panels allover the place. Although I suppose that is typical of Sneider's(sp?) work...

3) A nice take on the storyline, with some appropriate omissions IMO and some changes that I wont ruin, but that I felt added to it.

Cons:
1) Actress of Laurie reminded me of Maggie Gillenhall. And I @#%^ing hate that woman. And she was appalling.

2) A wholly unbelievable Veidt, with an occasionally German accent, hideous face and clear failings in portraying the character.

3) Soundtrack.... Oh god the soundtrack.... 99 red balloons??? seriously??? and flight of the valkries for the vietnam scene? That was pathetic. And spoiled an awesome scene that was screaming for some dramatic, not clichéd music to suit the mood of the shooting...

4) Would have like more on some of the minor characters, but was happy enough and understand their needed omission.



In general:
Loved the dream scene between Dan and Laurie, thought that looked really good.

Loved the mars stuff, but not the way he so directly makes her remember, instead of coaxing it out of her. It's as if they thought "how can we lose 5 mins? We'll just have John able to zap her in the face with his magic juice teeheeeheee and she'll see time? Cool. We got this."

Thought the love scene was needlessly graphic. Not against that kind of thing really, but it was a bit grotesque, and it's quite a subtle thing in the comic, with the fire gag...


Thought it was as good an adaptation as the director could manage given cast, and wasn't blown away, but wasn't disappointed.




Edit I stole that picture from someone. I forget who. No one in the war forum I don't think...

Edited, Mar 13th 2009 5:51am by MojoVIII
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Pros:
1)A beauty to look at,
See, the thing is, the reason I'm not **** is because of penises. I think they're ugly as hell.
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#12 Mar 13 2009 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
Like the aliens when they come out of people's chests.

What?

Yours isn't?

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#13 Mar 13 2009 at 2:58 AM Rating: Good
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Well, mine seems to work in reverse. It don't burst out of chests ...
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#14 Mar 13 2009 at 3:02 AM Rating: Good
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Well, mine seems to work in reverse. It don't burst out of chests ...
Did you murder your girlfriend with your penis???
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#15 Mar 13 2009 at 3:06 AM Rating: Good
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Well, mine seems to work in reverse. It don't burst out of chests ...
Did you murder your girlfriend with your penis???
Had ta. Wife was catchin' on. Smiley: um
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#16 Mar 13 2009 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
Better off. You think ffxi is a timesink wait til you have a daughter.

That said I really have no experience of those matters, just presumptions...
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Better off. You think ffxi is a timesink wait til you have a daughter.

That said I really have no experience of those matters, just presumptions...
It's why I'm quitting once she's born. Hoping to come back once I teach her to be a gil farmer slightly independent.
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#18 Mar 13 2009 at 5:31 AM Rating: Good
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**** Mojo is really coming along with the +1s. Fucker.

Also you can't post an XKCD pic w/o me retaliating in kind, so:
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#19 Mar 13 2009 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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Is my favorite of the ones I've read so far.
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#20 Mar 13 2009 at 5:41 AM Rating: Good
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I was particulary tickled by this one. I can't wait for the moment to arise for me to use that line in my life.


I can get away with it too, because I wasn't born that way. Smiley: laugh

Edited, Mar 13th 2009 9:41am by Nilatai
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#21 Mar 13 2009 at 5:44 AM Rating: Good
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The reason I like the previous picture is because I have this picture as well. Smiley: grin
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I'd totally be an eleventybazillionaire.
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#22 Mar 13 2009 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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I wish I had more funny pics.


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#23 Mar 13 2009 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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this.
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#25 Mar 13 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
I love heroes. And more picture time?

this one is **** to my lent.
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I love heroes. And more picture time?

this one is **** to my lent.
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I love that comic, it's kinda dark. >:D

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#27 Mar 13 2009 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
From a Purely DD perspective, it goes as follows:

/MNK from 1-30(Assuming you have SJ right from level 1)

/DRG from 30-50(Assuming you have Wyvern Mantle & Earring)

/SAM from 50-75(More or less)

In addition to these you'll want to have /NIN and /DNC available. For when your party's tank can't handle you going balls-to-the-wall DMG the whole time. Damage mitigation is very important for any Damage Dealer. Lessens the burden on your party's mages, working out to higher EXP/Hour, if you get it just right.


20-30 has to /DRG or possibly /RNG. for everyone but DRK it's /DRG (for DRK, it's /RNG, since they have ATT bonus already), but while WAR still gets ATT bonus, it's questionable whether ATT bonus still wins considering WAR already has zerk. i think it probably does.
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my funny pics are somehow all nsfw, but i don't see how that happened.
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milich wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
From a Purely DD perspective, it goes as follows:

/MNK from 1-30(Assuming you have SJ right from level 1)

/DRG from 30-50(Assuming you have Wyvern Mantle & Earring)

/SAM from 50-75(More or less)

In addition to these you'll want to have /NIN and /DNC available. For when your party's tank can't handle you going balls-to-the-wall DMG the whole time. Damage mitigation is very important for any Damage Dealer. Lessens the burden on your party's mages, working out to higher EXP/Hour, if you get it just right.


20-30 has to /DRG or possibly /RNG. for everyone but DRK it's /DRG (for DRK, it's /RNG, since they have ATT bonus already), but while WAR still gets ATT bonus, it's questionable whether ATT bonus still wins considering WAR already has zerk. i think it probably does.
/COR is better than /RNG now. Acc bonus for whole party etc.
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#30 Mar 13 2009 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
milich wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
From a Purely DD perspective, it goes as follows:

/MNK from 1-30(Assuming you have SJ right from level 1)

/DRG from 30-50(Assuming you have Wyvern Mantle & Earring)

/SAM from 50-75(More or less)

In addition to these you'll want to have /NIN and /DNC available. For when your party's tank can't handle you going balls-to-the-wall DMG the whole time. Damage mitigation is very important for any Damage Dealer. Lessens the burden on your party's mages, working out to higher EXP/Hour, if you get it just right.


20-30 has to /DRG or possibly /RNG. for everyone but DRK it's /DRG (for DRK, it's /RNG, since they have ATT bonus already), but while WAR still gets ATT bonus, it's questionable whether ATT bonus still wins considering WAR already has zerk. i think it probably does.
/COR is better than /RNG now. Acc bonus for whole party etc.
But you lose sharpshot for acid bolts!
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#31 Mar 13 2009 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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my funny pics are somehow all nsfw, but i don't see how that happened.
Milich! I have one specifically for you!

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Lmao @ Mojo
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