The BEST subjob (yea, I know, I know)Follow

you can pick whatever u want but it all comes down to YOU the player, wear proper equip at every level, eat food, learn proper party formation, know how to play wahtever job/sub u pick efficiently, that's the best job/subjob u can pick

treasure hunter doesnt give you a greater chance for lotting or winning randoms or the AI loot distributer.

bst is a terrible sub too

Well, it really depends on what level you are for the choice of sub and what weapons you plan to use. War isn't just a tank job, you can be pretty versatile, but it is still all relative. For instance

I would recommend that any War use a Great Axe as their weapon, or if you are a devoted tank, and Axe and a Shield. Axes are best for War as they are the A class weapons. A class weapons will have higher caps than any other weapon. Every weapon level you have gives you +1 to attack and a decent accuracy bonus, along with weapon skills available at earlier levels.

Levels 1-23

There is no better choice here than MNK. MNK will give you Counter, lots of HP, and a good amount if VIT and Boost. A good choice cause you aren't at the level where you can change to full on damage dealer.

Levels 24-29

I would still recomend that you sub MNK, but NIN isn't a bad idea. I would only sub this if I was going to use Utsesumi: Ichi though. You actually won't be doing that much more damage with Duel-Wield because your coiefficient is still pretty high(.9-.85)

Levels 30-59

MNK is still a solid choice, but THF now comes into play. You can now switch to be a damage dealer if you want, and a damn good one. Sturmwind(Great Axe WS) will stack with Sneak Attack, and this combo does insane damage. This is the combinatoin I have been using(36 War), and it has been working out very well. NIN is still a decent choice if you have Utsesumi: Ichi, but I think the other subs are a better choice.

Level 60-71

SAM is a really good choice I've heard. Meditate will let you get tons of TP and it has good stat bonuses and other useful abilties like Third Eye. Subbing SAM before 60 is useless though, no Meditate. MNK is still a good option, but SAM outdoes it. NIN is ok, still requires Utsesumi: Ichi.

72-75

NIN is a much better choice that it was before. You now have access to Utsesumi: Ni, and you can do some good tanking with that combo. But then again, your coiefficient is only at .85 now(Might be lower), and a NIN/WAR would be much more effective at what you'd be accomplishing. SAM is what I've heard is the ideal choice still, and MNK is still a good one.

I think it's best if you try them out a bit for you and see what you like best and find best to play.

mojopojo is now my favorite poster.

And do you know what these High Levels were doing? Were they farming, leveling or questing?

Heck when I get the a really high level I think I will sub BST for fun just so someone can post that they saw a high level subbing BST so it must be a good sub. ><

I think all the high levels should mix there jobs in funny ways just to mess with you people that search for them.

Check www.killingifrit.com. There is a chart referencing weapons skills, which the designer used letter designations to catagorize weapon skills. Axe for a WAR is an "A" weapon, and thus a WAR can raise his/her skill in that weapon higher, per level, than weapons listed as "B" or "C" weapons.

I just happened to drift to this job forum and saw this post.

Hope this helps!

Been a WAR/MNK (46/23) for ages and is being persuaded by a LS friend to level my NIN to become a WAR/NIN.

His argument is WAR/NIN gets the best of both worlds, dual wielding and double attacking axes/swords with the advantage of Utsusemi. Lots of great statistics available on axes and swords from level 30 onwards.

Examples:
Centurions Sword, +3 Accuracy and +? attack, lv 30 (cant remember attack figure)

Combat Caster's Scimitar, +3 Accuracy and some attack, lv 40

Viking Axe, + 10 accuracy, lv 48 (-10 evasion, but you are not going to evade the IT's melee attacks anyway ya?)

Slap on a Life Belt, +10 accuracy, lv 48 and some DEX rings, eat a Mithkabob to become a melee machine. Adjust your rings and earrings according to your PT role of course.

(The weapons listed do not come cheap, but they are still cheaper than Archer/Sniper Rings, +2 and +5 Accuracy respectively)

Wondering whether to make the switch...

Job Combo's for Warrior.

1. War/Nin
Good in the higher lvls as stated b4 with blink and all that good stuff but dual wield and stuff is pretty much a joke below lvl 74 cause u need Utsemi: Ni to shine with Nin sub. War/Nin below that lvl is usually made a laughing stock in my pt's with meh - low dmg.

2. War/Sam

Samurai is a great subjob 60+ up till that point its ok but not the BEST possible choice. War/Sam will gain fast tp and will be able to WS a lil more than the rest of the pt its more of a DRG thing until lvl 60.

3. War/Mnk

Below lvl 60 this has to be the best combo if u wish to tank or be a 2ndary tank in ur pt. You will get HIGH HP, Counter is always fun, boost is ok gives a lil hate while ur at it, and hand 2 hand if u wanna have fun i supppose. Mainly if u wanna tank choose this combo. I am a lvl 52 PLD and most War's with this combo while they still can't tank better they r ur BEST friend for a THF who wants to SA + TA off u (U being the PLD). It's always nice to know the 2ndary tank has more HP than u and can do g dmg at the same time lol >.<;!

4. War/Thf

With Great Axe and Trick Attack + Strumwind u got a winning combo my friend. The Warrior's in my pt who do this combo sometimes (Depending on their equipment) out do the dmg of the DRK in my pt. Its funny because they can Warcry right b4 they do their TA + WS and Berserk as well. If u wanna do dmg below lvl 60 or even above this is a awesome choice. Remember u can use SA + TA + Strumwind and other Great Axe skills at lvl 60 although this i have not heard anything about by that time ppl usually forget about THF and go str8 to SAM without much though its sad really. If ur WAR can sometimes out dmg a DRK in ur pt then ur doing something VERY right and u will be very much appreciated in the pt cause if the PLD gets into a bind and needs some1 to voke off him/her then this person will have the hate, the vit, and the def to tank until the PLD has recovered from whatever the problem may be.

In my oppinion I'd say War/Thf or War/Mnk until 60 if u want 1 of those other combo's. Bst won't do anything ignore it and forget it. Nin is meh truly its meh i've been Nin and i felt so useless its not even funny but then again i only went to lvl 26 so plz dont take my Nin experience seriously cause i prolly dont have any compared to some ppl lol. Although from pting with War/Nin i wouldnt invite them into my pt unless i was dead stuck. War/Sam is good bellow 60 and really good above. Mnk, Thf, and Sam all have their advantages making them equals past lvl 60.

What do you think about that Mumitroll? Obviously you have found some significant benefits in the war/nin combination pre-74 and I suspect Shiek may be wrong that the damage is "meh." At least based on the stat bonuses of axes and swords I'm not sure how that could be the case (think twin Combat Caster Axe at 40, the +1 or +2 versions at 43, Viking Axe at (48?) and then a Blood Sword and Darksteel Axe around 55 - haven't thought that much farther ahead). As for the tanking ability - hmmm, with my plethora of experience (joke) w/monk and having never played war/ninja yet, I have my doubts - I think War/monk wins with higher Vit and countering 4 to 5 times a fight, but there is only one way to find out!

Thanks Shiek - well I do like warrior/monk so maybe I will stick with that, but I can't help but think the damage would be better w/ warrior ninja given (as described above) the combined stat bonuses.

How many warrior/ninjas have you partied with? I would think you need a decent number of party experiences w/ a certain job/subjob combo before ruling it out - might just be the player (though I think you can effectively rule out some job/ sub job combos right off the bat).

And, of course, there really isn't any replacement for trying it yourself.

I am a PLD so ya my exp with a War/Nin tanking is very limited and i wont put my input in on that part of a War/Nin. Having being a Ninja myself I know their tanking is ok and holding hate is a problem so maybe War/Nin is different tanking dunno and I haven't let a War/Nin be anything else but a helper with SA+TA off me.

As far a dmg goes with War/Nin though i have had a LOT of exp. with those ppl in my pts. Ppl with 2 Centurion sword with the Att bonus n such.... They were "Meh" literally just that. A great axe war or a 1h axe war with shield easily out does them with Sam, Mnk, or Thf subbed. I have been in a pt with a War with 2 1h axes and a mix of the both it was a common thing round lvl 40s died out sorta in 50s or ppl just couldnt get the items. If u want dmg then go with War/Thf if u want tanking then try War/Mnk or War/Nin.

REMEMBER u have to be able to pull of the Utsemi: Ichi casting during battle!

The stats with a Ninja subbed r ok but if u want dmg stay far away from it. I cannot stress how amazed I was when a well equiped War/Thf out did my pts also well equiped DRK both of which lvl 48 at that time. Strumwind + Trick Attack its truly amazing and alot more ppl should pay some serious attention to this combo cause it allows a usual tanker to do some serious dmg.

Nikk ur KKIN in ASURA?! Its me Valya!!! Haven't seen ya in soo long parents booted me off the game -_-. So close to lvl 60 and full af ;_;! Working my way back buddy!!! Gl Kkin!



Edited, Sat Apr 3 15:41:24 2004 by Shiek

Ignore him, he talks nonsense and has no clue.




I currently dual wield a Darksteel Axe and a Viking Axe (for the +10 acc), for about 500 atk overall (with buffs). My Rampage can routinely do 500 damage on IT and 700+ on VT, and I can do it about every 30-40 seconds. The sheer damage I produce leads to me - unintendedly - tanking half-time since the PLD can't get the mob off me. Since I have Utsusemi, I barely take any damage though, and the PLD uses the time to heal himself. You can judge from this whether NIN is good pre-74 :D

However, side note: I have good equipment, worth over a million in total. You need time and effort to get all that.

Further ahead - you can dual wield Tabarzins or Juggernaut/Tabarzin at 71 to get the most powerful weapon of any melee in the game, beating DRK's Death Scythe and rivalling Berserker's Axe.




Forget everything what that guy said. The #1 sub for tanking is NIN. #2 is MNK. MNK is easier to do since you don't have to mess around casting, but you will take more damage and you won't have Dual Wield and the ninjutsu spells.




Exactly. Try NIN, please. You'll love it :)
Just do the Utsusemi quest as soon as you can. Nobody wants a NIN without Utsusemi.

Ah, cmon, he has simply never seen a good WAR/NIN.
You can main tank nicely as WAR/NIN. Yes, keeping hate is a bit of an issue, but nothing too difficult.