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#1 Aug 21 2012 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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Hey guys, I have been leveling my blm recently, and I have now hit level 78. I am having some issues and wanted to run some stuff by you and see what I should do.

First, of course my issue is this is my first mage job past 50, so my skill is woefully low. As of the end of my session last night, I had gotten it to 201, I had 6 merits built up already, so before I logged out last night I dumped 3 merits in elemental magic skill, so I have 207 right now. My issue is with magic accuracy. I started initially using Minkin, Ultimate, Brother wolf because I don't have beyond. However, I was getting nearly 100% resists on blizzard III's only doing about 1 in 20 for 1/2 damage, the rest were 110 damage. I noticed that Aero was getting fully resisted a lot less, so I went back to the atma guy, and swapped brother wolf out for gales. By the end of the party, with ascetic's tonics, my Aero IIIs were landing regularly for 1160ish and my Aeroga III's landed upwards of ~1800. My question is this.

The only magic accuracy atma I have is Kirin, which also gives +40 int. Should I swap out gales for that atma, and then start using blizzard and aero while I am skilling up, or should I stick to aero spells, which greatly benefit from the atma of gales?
#2 Aug 21 2012 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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1) Get into a worm exp party in La Theine Aby.
2) Sub /SCH and Dark Arts while leveling.
3) Kirin Atma should get you close to hitting worms reliably along with Ultimate/MM.
4) Use ascetic's tonics as they hit your inventory. A good exp party should have them coming in before they ever wear.

Once your skill gets near 300, you can probably drop /SCH and go with /RDM or whatever else you want on worms, but until then /SCH will really bring your MACC up into line.
#3 Aug 21 2012 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't even think about /sch... I'll have to level it from 30 to 50 first if I want to do that path.

so you think the macc and the int on Kirin is better than the +30 macc/matk on wind from gales? Ok, I'll have to try it out.
#4 Aug 22 2012 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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Meldi wrote:
I didn't even think about /sch... I'll have to level it from 30 to 50 first if I want to do that path.

so you think the macc and the int on Kirin is better than the +30 macc/matk on wind from gales? Ok, I'll have to try it out.

Depending on the mob's INT and your INT, each point of INT will give either a full point of macc or half point. So the INT buff from Kirin's Atma can give as much as 40 macc or as little as 20 macc. So it's potentially more macc than Gales. Even if you have high enough INT so that you're only getting 20 macc from that 40 INT, it applies to all elements, rather than just wind.

Once you start subbing SCH and use Dark Arts, magic accuracy will be less of an issue. And just doing some quick and dirty estimates, I don't think 40 INT is that far behind 30 MAB. In Abyssea, I think the trade off I usually saw was 1.75 INT for 1 MAB (though that may have been when I was lvl 85 or lvl 90). And if the two aren't that far apart, it makes more sense to go with the buff that benefits all of your nukes, not just one element.
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#5 Aug 27 2012 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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Just wanted to give a little bit of an update on this.

I went out and did atma of Kirin on iceday no less to see if I could do that. I stayed /rdm, because my sch sub is at 30, and I didn't feel like leveling it. I am now up to 99 and here is what I found. with Kirin, I still get regular resists on ice spells on the worms, something I rarely have now on my wind spells. I took a significant damage drop on my wind spells ~400 damage on V, ~300 on IV. I regularly had to use 3 ice spells to kill a worm. I ended up switching back to atma of gales because it was just much more consistent for me at the time. I am going to try again as soon as I get my ice potency merits and stuff. I can two shot worms with Aero V + Aero IV right now. I am also working on my ice staff magian trial, and in the mean time I am also saving up for a chatoyant staff as opposed to the iridal staff that I have now. I might just go ahead and get an Aquilo's Staff until I can get Chatoyant anyway.

Gist of the story/ tldr version: I am continuing to use gales until I can get some ice potency/better gear/skill to switch over to Blizzard. I will also work on getting atma of the beyond, which will also help significantly.

Edit: Gear if anyone is interested. I would appreciate some feedback on gear if you want to provide it. AF3 +2 is obviously one of my highest priorities

Iridal Staff
Caecus Grip (can't actually find any decent ones on ah, this one was cheap and gives dark skill)
Witchstone
Teal Chapeau
Artemis' Medal (will get the matk +8 macc +2 one as soon as I can afford)
Moldavite Earring
Hecate's Earring
Teal Saio
Teal Cuffs
Spiral Ring
Aquilo's Ring
Searing Cape/Twilight Mantle
Hierarch's Belt (Cognizant as soon as I can find one on AH)
Teal Slops
Teal Feet

Edited, Aug 27th 2012 11:56am by Meldi

Edited, Aug 27th 2012 12:02pm by Meldi
#6 Aug 27 2012 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Something I don't think I saw mentioned: make sure you have all of your Abyssites of Furtherance, so you have the maximum +INT (and +everything else) bonus from cruor buffs.

You are on the right track for the long term by working on an ice damage ToM staff and Goetia +2 gear.

Additional comments:
Ice potency merits won't help your accuracy issues. Finish elemental magic merits first, if you haven't already.
Get/use Wizard's Gloves instead of Teal Cuffs, for as long as accuracy is an issue.
Stoichieon Medal won't do you much good while accuracy is an issue (although you want it eventualy). Goetia will be more consistent than Artemis.
Goetia Mantle is far superior to Searing/Twilight when accuracy is an issue.
At least pick up a penitent's rope to nuke with until you have something better. And you want Cognition, not Cognizant.
Teal feet are doing nothing for you. Almost anything else is better. Grab some Nebula or Chelona from the AH, or something.

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#7 Aug 27 2012 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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If you're using wind a lot you might want to consider macroing in Kaikias' Cape for your wind nukes - although it has one less MAB than searing cape it has INT +6 and a +4 bonus to MACC for wind spells, so I think it probably evens out. (I'm no magic damage expert though, so others are free to disagree)

It's also dirt cheap (50K on my server)



Edited, Aug 27th 2012 1:30pm by Olorinus
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#8 Aug 27 2012 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I was level 90 when I did all the testing. Now that I am 99, and additionally I have 20 more skill (up to ~250) and I am picking up an HQ ice staff, I am hoping that my acc problems will be largely taken care of. Additionally, I have one more tier of magic attack bonus that I hope will push blizzard over into 2 casts to kill instead of 3.

I do have all my furtherance abyssites, so that isn't an issue that needs to be addressed. Thank you though for mentioning.

I don't have any goetia gear yet, not even the accessories, but that is one of the next things for me to pursue.

It seems that there isn't hardly any nebula gear for sale ever on my server, so nebula pigaches are out, but chelona boots are fairly inexpensive, so I will pick those up. This brings up a question though. Does the teal set only have fast cast when you are using all 5 pieces, or do you still get the bonus with just 4. I have been using full teal mainly for the 10% fast cast. Is losing the 5% recast reduction from that worth using chelona's boots which have some unspecified fast cast on them?
#9 Aug 27 2012 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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Meldi wrote:
Does the teal set only have fast cast when you are using all 5 pieces, or do you still get the bonus with just 4. I have been using full teal mainly for the 10% fast cast. Is losing the 5% recast reduction from that worth using chelona's boots which have some unspecified fast cast on them?
I don't know if you get a partial set bonus or not, but fast cast / recast reduction should be way down your list of priorities (other than for Voidwatch). Focus on accuracy, then damage, and if you get a little fast cast along the way, great.
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