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#1 Sep 19 2011 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, I think you guys already know..Seems like with new scrolls, Square has hidden these but good.

The usual suspects have been checked, npc wise. I even checked a few places that don't normally sell high level scrolls but do sell scrolls. So these drop from something, we don't know what yet tho. OR maybe from a very oddball npc that never sold scrolls before.

If you find one of these new scrolls, please post here with proof (Screenshot, etc) so maybe we can help each other. Without further ado, here's the list. I will update this soon as I can once we find out where these come from!

Thunder V - WoE Conflux 6 (Source= BG)
Blizzaja - WoE Conflux 6 (Confirmed with this screenshot.), Laidly Lawerence (new voidwatch nm) (unconfirmed)
Breakga - Drops from Antagonistic Ambuscade (Confirmed on BG Here(check behind the spoiler))
Comet - Drops from Antagonistic Ambuscade (one of the new bcs) (source: BG), Laidly Lawerence (new voidwatch nm) (unconfirmed)

Let's find these guys!



Edited, Sep 21st 2011 10:21am by maryadavies
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im glad im a RDM first and get no new scrolls....but my blm will be sad until I find these.
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Mine will be too, so will my whm. That's why I started this...It can take more than one person to find things like this. ^^

Hopefully we can find them.
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There's new trials in gustav tunnel. I bet they drop from new, higher level skeletons if they were added. Though I'm betting comet will be dropped by the HKC fights. Just calling it now.
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Then let's see if we can get some actual proof guys. I read on FFXI AH they might drop from WoE or some GoV area too; but I don't want "maybe." Want to know for sure. And I think we all want that.

Edited, Sep 19th 2011 11:55pm by maryadavies
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maryadavies wrote:
Then let's see if we can get some actual proof guys. I read on FFXI AH they might drop from WoE or some GoV area too; but I don't want "maybe." Want to know for sure. And I think we all want that.

Edited, Sep 19th 2011 11:55pm by maryadavies


I second this, the content is now out and the time for speculation is past.
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#8 Sep 19 2011 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah speculation is the new scrolls drop from Void watch or NMs, so good luck hunting NMs now, and Voidwatch pfft it's going to be a nightmare to these scrolls now.
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ONE HAS BEEN FOUND.

Someone posted a log up on BG that proves Comet drops from one of the new bcs for sure. Maybe that's where our missing scrolls are tho I doubt that's the only source.
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#10 Sep 20 2011 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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Blizzaja in Walk of Echoes. Found in the personal chests that you get at the end. Zone 6, if that matters.
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I've put that up as unconfirmed b/c we don't have a SS yet. I'll put up confirmation soon as the guy uploads a log.
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I'm pretty sure these scrolls don't drop in GoV. It seems they're rewards from the new high level battlefields only. HKCNMs, the new WoE fluxes and probably voidwatch T5+ appear to be the only source, so these are going to be a pain to get for a while.

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#13 Sep 20 2011 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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misery.... as if I needed scrolls at 1 mill +
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#14 Sep 20 2011 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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True. I'm just trying to document it so maybe we can get friends and get our spells, if worst comes to worst. As for me, not leveling blm beyond 90 until I know where these come from; we got some good spells this update.
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maryadavies wrote:
I've put that up as unconfirmed b/c we don't have a SS yet. I'll put up confirmation soon as the guy uploads a log.

http://www.ffxiah.com/screenshots/60979
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Ok, fixed. That screenshot was taking forever to show up. (For those that find one from here; PLEASE use photobucket and not FFXI AH. I can confirm it faster that way.)

[Edit] Breakga may be found too. UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT THERE, so this is unconfirmed until someone repeats this. I trust Gencay but not quite enough proof here yet. Log shot here.

Edited, Sep 20th 2011 2:42pm by maryadavies
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Just beat the new HKCNM in boneyard gully, Antagonistic Ambuscade. Didn't get a scroll drop and it took 4 runs to get the strat down and all we walked away with was a Bishop's sash.
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#18 Sep 20 2011 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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Aaaand breakga confirmed as dropping from that BC on BG.

One more "Where the frick is that?" spell left..At least for blm.

I am guessing these proly drop in _more than one_ bc however, so we need to check them all.

Edited, Sep 20th 2011 6:47pm by maryadavies
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Most black mages won't be getting these spells anytime soon, FFXI going back to ways of old it seems.
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Thunder V has been found. Chamber 6 WoE. Link Last post on page 51 with SS.

Edited, Sep 21st 2011 8:38am by ISystemXI
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Also it seems like they drop from new Voidwatch battles too, so I'll add that as well. However since the guy on BG didn't put up a screen, it's unconfirmed until I see one.

Maybe if enough do that they'll become easier? Give it time guys. give it time. And keep looking. I said that BCs weren't the only place to get those scrolls..I suspected Square put them in more than one spot.


Edited, Sep 21st 2011 10:32am by maryadavies
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Funny how all the new scrolls seem to drop from all the new battlefields, eh? NEEDS MOAR CONFIRMATION OR I WONT UPDATE

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LOL. Seems to, tho I haven't seen any drop shots on Voidwatch, that's why it is unconfirmed.
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As a minor heads up - don't flip out too much if you're doing WoE and see the word "scroll" in your chest... the tier 5s and -jas that dropped in abyssea also drop in them :( So far aeroja and fire and blizz 5 - bah.
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WoE, while fun, is a horrible way to get new scrolls. Yeah, they're free, but I've done 20+ runs and haven't gotten a single new scroll. In fact, I've been in a mostly/completely full alli for those 20 runs, and have seen one Temper and one Comet drop total. That's like 300 loot pools of evidence.

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I've been running it on both characters - WHM curebombs a bit and then I play the SMN - level and a half's worth of exp on both of them and still nada. Going to have coins to start making WoE weapons at this rate though.
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I haven't seen a new scroll yet, but I did get a brew in my temp items last night, which had considerable entertainment value when I dropped the last tortoise boss with a Vidohunir and 6 nukes.
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I gots a Breakga and a Bliz V in about 6 WoE runs.

These scrolls are making me emo though, for all my mage jobs. Not levelin' BLM without at least Comet and not WHM without Holy II. So it may be a while.
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Thunder V also drops from Flux 9. One of my close friends got it whilst we were both there. And Ere I </3 you for being so lucky with WoE. I've done 15 or so runs and not seen a thing so far.

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Thunder V also drops from Flux 9. One of my close friends got it whilst we were both there. And Ere I </3 you for being so lucky with WoE. I've done 15 or so runs and not seen a thing so far.

Yeah, I realize even my **** poor luck (which has gotten worse since then, with no new anything) is above average. If you were on Sylph I'd mail you the scroll - I'm prolly shutting down the account tomorrow over this. I just don't have the patience to not enjoy my fun mage jobs for 6 months.
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Erica; you may be jumping the gun. On Quetz, Holy 2 finaly went below a mil, and the other scrolls are slowly starting to come down in price.

As of right now the only new new spell I have is for whm; Curaga V (that's saved our neck in Aby already). I put my foot down and am not leveling blm until I can get the scrolls, either by buying off AH (I can easily pump out a million and a half gil a week if I push it) or by getting them other ways. Until I can (and also until I can get my paws on a wizzan grip but that's not a spell).. BLM stays 90.

Edited, Sep 29th 2011 10:22pm by maryadavies
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Actually in all honesty, I empathise with Ere. It's the first time in years I've just not wanted to play. I hate feeling 'gimp'. This update has crapped all over BLM especially. Right now I have 4 staves which need upgrading with 40 geodes each. I have been saving but the prices on the **** things are going up and up. I also need 6m gil worth of scrolls at today's prices. I did get Comet but I've been taking two accounts into WoE the past week and have Eld in there since the update and I just can't get them.

If Voidwatch doesn't help tonight, I think I may just take a break from it all. It feels like such a backwards step. I'm being actively penalised for being a mage right now.
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I symphatize. I never did any magian staves for blm and right now I'm glad I didn't...

Right now, been holding blm at 90 because of this. Been doing both voidwatch with my shell (So far, only trash drops) and WoE when I got time, not to mention just pumping out gil and working on a crafting mule. (I got 3.9 mil atm; prolly will have 4 mil after I do another gil-crafting run)

At least on quetz, the spells are starting to come down in price; I figure if they don't go down much more I'll end up buying them. But yeah. Square proly did not realize and prolly is dense as a post, but this update really told mages to "do this or make gil to buy these spells, or gtfo lolololol"
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#35 Oct 06 2011 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
Ugh Magian staves! Smiley: smile

Luckily we kept all geodes and stored them on a mule. Yesterday I was able to update my Varuna's, Yama's, and Indra's. I am short on Agni's because we gave a bunch to my brother~in~lawish to finish his STR polearm. I didn't realize they were going to release the +3 dmg staves so quickly. Oh well, stocking up now and the LS knows who needs em for trials!

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Actually in all honesty, I empathise with Ere. It's the first time in years I've just not wanted to play. I hate feeling 'gimp'. This update has crapped all over BLM especially. Right now I have 4 staves which need upgrading with 40 geodes each. I have been saving but the prices on the **** things are going up and up. I also need 6m gil worth of scrolls at today's prices. I did get Comet but I've been taking two accounts into WoE the past week and have Eld in there since the update and I just can't get them.

If Voidwatch doesn't help tonight, I think I may just take a break from it all. It feels like such a backwards step. I'm being actively penalised for being a mage right now.


I'm in the same boat as well needing all of the scrolls that were added in this last update. Thus far I'm somewhere around 0/25 from WoE. I wouldn't be so upset about this if other jobs had to jump through similar hoops for getting their new JA's and such. Even though it sucks we really have precious few options other than persevering through these events or purchasing them. Personally I refuse to purchase any of these at their inflated prices. I waited out Raise III and Erase back in their days of rampant price gouging, I'll do the same for these as well.
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#37 Oct 06 2011 at 6:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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S-E raised the bar on character progression big time this update and blm was given a LOT of upgrades to play with. I have mixed feelings about it because on one hand the upgrades are mostly actionable and very expensive, but on the other hand I'm glad there ARE upgrades. This update had one of the most numerous bags of goodies for blm in a long time. Aside from Manawell we got

Saevus Pendant
Ombre Tathlum
Wizzan Grip
Romanus Cape
Angha Ring
Thunder V
Blizzaja
Comet
Breakga

8 damage staves + 3 (8 enfeebles as well if you want to go that rout)

Earthcry Earring
Kikias' Cape
Nefer Khat (+1)
Nefer Kalasiris (+1)
Casso Sash

I separated that with the the auctionable items on the top, staves, and the more situational and/or challenging items. The only item in that list which is rare/ex is the Cesso Sash (aside from staves), and some of those are quite nice. My thief on the other hand got + 3 ToTM daggers which are a vastly lamer upgrade from +2 than a staff. Kila +3 got +2 base damage and ONE point of base stat over the +2, and fusetto got screwed even harder with two base D increase (thats it) for the low cost of 100 Devious Dies. I can also use the kikias's cape in an aeolian build. Aside from that the only thing which interested me was the cosuscanti and the Fajin Boots which are both rare drops from the same t3 Zilart path Voidwatch fight (kirin version 2). In comparison my thief's toys are fewer and a royal pain in the **** to get whereas my blm upgrades simply require gil. I actually ENJOY farming gil and there are a lot of ways to get some easy gil playing casually and battling mush mobs (like farming some basic NM triggers or converting cruor and gold box items into gil). It's not that it's hard to farm gil, just that a lot of people would rather do events instead. In retrospect I've felt a lot more character progression on my blm since this past update than I have on my thief.

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Yeah, we got some awesome stuff really. Some of the gear you listed has drawbacks that make me Smiley: glare at them; I proly won't upgrade with the ones with nasty side effects.

As for me, got blizzaja today; that's 2 down, 2 to go. Prolly will have the rest in a couple weeks; I may also look into some of that gear that does not have side effects.

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 5:52pm by maryadavies
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Some of the gear you listed has drawbacks that make me Smiley: glare at them; I proly won't upgrade with the ones with nasty side effects


The only item I listed with negative side effects is the Saevus Pendant. While earthcry, nefer and kiksias' are situational other than inventory -1 there is no downside to using them in their appropriate builds. Obviously the spells and casso sash are pure upgrades as well. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that Ombre Tathlum doesn't have MaB on it whereas witchstone does? The rule of 2 Int > 1 Mab > 1 Int puts Ombre tathlum ahead of witchstone so even if it isn't stronger it's at best a wash in damage. The draw for me is the +2 conserve MP to proc my af set a little more often and even one or two procs every few hundred nukes is enough to put ombre ahead of witchstone. The difference between Goetia Chain and Saevus Pendant is a loss of 7 magic accuracy for a gain of 7 INT (damage) --> 9 MaB (damage) and I don't know about you but that's a tradeoff I'm more than willing to make. In the worst case scenario I could macro in Goetia for resists but in 98+% of cases I'll be using the Saevus.

Like I said, if you have gil or are willing to farm gil your mages can get some darn nice stuff just by running to the auction house. Voidwatch has TERRIBLE drop rates and organizing the runs is a pain in the ass. I want the Coruscanti + Fajin boots badly but I'm not even TRYING to get them atm because they drop from a very difficult tier 3 Zilart path Voidwatch battle and the drop rate with capped lights is similar to salvage drop rates (soul crushing). It doesn't feel worth my time atm because just getting access to the battle takes a while and it's really hard. I'm not in a linkshell capable of running Voidwatch properly and my playtime is too limited to obligate myself to one at this time. Almost all of the melee stuff this update was disappointing (1500 plates, voidwatch mobs that never drop, and pitiful gains on ToTM melee weapons +3 for the price you have to pay (all imitation empyrean weapon +3 trials have a RETARDED cost to benefit ratio, and elemental path isn't much better). I'm of the mindset that there was no good reason for s-e to make the new scrolls drop rate this low other than to impose artificial difficulty and add a level of uber rarity to them, but at the same time they managed to make most of the melee goodies worse upgrades and most of them can't be bought directly off the auction house. So yeah, I like my blms stuff better this time.

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 6:48pm by Melphina
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#40 Oct 11 2011 at 9:14 PM Rating: Good
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That pendant you mentioned has one I don't like, and also the Romanus Cape; that addle could mess up your spell casting timing (and let's just say I don't try to use extended macros; I started on the ps2, and like to be able to switch back and forth seamlessly if I must. Tho blm takes up a full set!)

I'll look into the pendant if I can compensate in some way though.
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#41 Oct 11 2011 at 11:48 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't notice the addle effect on the cape when I originally looked at it. In that light I agree the cape isn't that hot unless you have some good spellcast going on (I don't either) so I'll stick with searing cape for now. But my nuking magic accuracy is capped on anything in abbysea or lower levels leaving Voidwatch as the only place I could see resist issues on a regular basis. 9 MaB is quite a lot nicer than 7 INT so I'll definitely be using the pendant in a majority of situations.

Edited, Oct 12th 2011 1:49am by Melphina
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