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#1 Feb 03 2011 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
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ok so i made my ice staff to +2 and love the damage from it. so i have decied to do the other staffs and this is my path so far on the fire trial staff. also i have looked ahead and everything seem's pretty strait forward w/ only a couple options

50 trent kills under weather effect wajaom woodland,bhaflau thickets,Caedarva Mire kill 10 of them under weather think there is one spot in the past aswell but this is easy enuff

50 spiders under light side weather(wind,light,thunder,fire) wajaom woodlands right outside town there are 5 if you use the ones in the path. pull w/ stone and link then and kill in the ally. i chose this spot cause weather is more common

50 kills any mob under fire weather/day. fire weather is a pain in the * to get so, i choose kuftal tunnel cause the crab trial for my ice staff was cake there. this was an unplanned but great help people doing other trials on lizzys there^^ thanks for the help

75 bird fire weather/day ok this one should be somewhat simple go raid leyway point in wajaom woodlands. if there is a party there OH well grab 2DD's and you just pull the mobs to them also if you need some staff skill-ups you can wack away. there may be people in the zone for the bird kills so toss up a shout
CONGRATS you have finished the BS part of this staff

150 amorph fire killshot 50+damage ;) get a worm party in abyssea and fire kill them yourself the worms yourself if you wanna duo this trial w/ a friend you could wipe this trial up in a few mins. no reason to do this one anywhere else! the fun is just begining

200 spider fire kill shot 150+ damage -starting this one today- ok the plan here is either kuftal tunnel or whitegate area spiders but, issue i am looking into is mobs cant be aspired. the Tree is also an option that may fair well also. last option i know about this one would be instering to try but you have to kill them w/ one kill so good atma's are going to be a must.(here's the plan) get a very well geared mnk w/ lots of counter/DDing/-PDT gear/atma's
and have them pull all the spiders in Vunkerl Inlet abyssea and pick them off as they counter kill them might move you along a lil faster if your MP can keep up.^^ worth a shot(whm will also be needed to cure the mnk)

200 sheep fire kill shot 150+ damage Caedarva Mire is the only place that you can really try this outside of abyssea only other this i have noticed is gigas's sheep in Lufaise Meadows or Misareaux Coast with a sync but this depends on if the sheep will check ep when you have fire3 these have 387-405 and at the lvl you will be sync'ing to

250 mandys fire kill shot 250+ damage this trial has 2 options far as i am concerned 1) the frist floor of the tree just dont bite off more than you can chew or pull a crab when you pull the mandys 2) tahrongi canyon abyssea your party might get mad if it is not already astblished and you want to get this done fast and just fire kill every mob^^

250 evil weapon fire kill shot 250+ my choise on this one is the $hitadel basement these is a room w/ 6weapons i did this one for ice arcana kills only issue i see here is the long pop time so maybe ro'maeve may be a better option but weapons are easy for the most part cause you can aspir them

last trial geodes and if you havent collected them get a melee job and kill stuff w/ no weather on firesday or run to the AH your finished on to another staff

#2 Feb 05 2011 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
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For treant trial I always do grauberg, weather there is very common and you can get it done pretty fast. Spiders, Boyahda Tree works well if its stormy months, just OP there and check magian specs. For the 50 monsters in fire weather, I tele-yhoat and used specs to check weather, if there was a chance of fire I went to Ifrit's cauldron and gathered up 10 mobs and held them at ~1-5% until weather popped and finished them all at once.

I haven't done the 75 bird trial yet, but an option is bats in Ifrit's Cauldron if there is weather, otherwise I would suggest some kind of bird in abyssea. Any trial you can do in Abyssea, do it. Practically 0 downtime and super fast repops blows any other camp out of the water. Your best bet for any trial is to team up with 1-2+ other BLMs and gather mass amounts of your target and burn them down with ga spells.
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#3 Feb 07 2011 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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So far I have done this trial with this path (starting with killshots)

Amorph,
Abyssea – Attohwa , Entozon (Worms) can take Conflux 3.

Options:
Abyssea - Uleguerand: Ectozoon
Abyssea – Latheine: Rock Grinders.

Spiders,
Abyssea Misereaux, Shore Spiders at Conflux 0. (Martello available).

Options:
Abyssea Vunkerl : Spitting Spider

Sheep,
Abyssea Latheine, Black Merino sheep at Conflux 7 or Irate sheeps at conflux 8.

Mandy,
Abyssea Misereaux, Orapodium at Conflux 8 (Martello available) (currently on this trial)

Options:
Abyssea-Tahrongi: Pachypodiums.
Abyssea – Attohwa: Hannequet


For atmas, I am using, Minikin + Lone Wolf + Beyond.
The maximise the Fire dmg, Atma of the Smoldering Sky would be better with Lone Wolf.

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#4 Feb 08 2011 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
I can't see a reason to nuke with anything other than Bliz/Thunder 5/ja once we get those, so fire mdmg staff doesn't seem worth the effort to me.
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#5 Feb 08 2011 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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tertoonetwothreefour wrote:
I can't see a reason to nuke with anything other than Bliz/Thunder 5/ja once we get those, so fire mdmg staff doesn't seem worth the effort to me.
Fire spells amuse me. Enough so that I'm even considering making myself a staff, given that it's not super hard to do.
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#6 Feb 08 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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Fire spells amuse me. Enough so that I'm even considering making myself a staff, given that it's not super hard to do.


Given that it's going to be our second strongest tier V for a few months it's probably not a bad idea. I've been tossing around the idea of re-assigning potency merits from thunder to fire for the time being too.
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#7 Feb 08 2011 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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blowfin wrote:
Given that it's going to be our second strongest tier V for a few months it's probably not a bad idea. I've been tossing around the idea of re-assigning potency merits from thunder to fire for the time being too.
You know, given that I've been sitting at capped buffers, max merits on all my jobs, 20/20, and 9999/10000, and blown through at least 200k of xp since then, that actually sounds like a good idea. Why didn't I think of it?

Edited, Feb 8th 2011 4:59pm by VxSote
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#8 Feb 08 2011 at 7:51 PM Rating: Good
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VxSote wrote:
blowfin wrote:
Given that it's going to be our second strongest tier V for a few months it's probably not a bad idea. I've been tossing around the idea of re-assigning potency merits from thunder to fire for the time being too.
You know, given that I've been sitting at capped buffers, max merits on all my jobs, 20/20, and 9999/10000, and blown through at least 200k of xp since then, that actually sounds like a good idea. Why didn't I think of it?

Edited, Feb 8th 2011 4:59pm by VxSote


I did exactly that a few days ago. Planning to start a magian fire staff as soon as I get my ice staff upgraded to something not named Teiwaz. Stuck on crabs right now, only because my Abyssea shell has been doing Altepa for the past week. We're moving to Grauberg next, so that will be convenient for knocking out the last two (crabs and wyverns) trials.

Even when Blizzaja comes out, fire spells will still be useful for mobs with strong ice resistance.
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#9MrSka681, Posted: Feb 08 2011 at 11:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) my question to the people that ask why make a fire staff
#10 Feb 09 2011 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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MrSka681 wrote:
my question to the people that ask why make a fire staff
thunder and ice have always been the strongest spells we have but most people carried around 7 or 8(light staff-if smn,bst,healer of some kind were another job you lvl'ed) HQ staves before abyssea update. why would you have something that is less than an NQ staff comparred to an HQ pre-update.

Because it took far less effort to get a hold of Vulcan's Staff pre-patch than it takes to upgrade a TotM Staff to the point of being useful.

Edited, Feb 9th 2011 10:03am by svlyons
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#11 Feb 09 2011 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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svlyons wrote:
MrSka681 wrote:
my question to the people that ask why make a fire staff
thunder and ice have always been the strongest spells we have but most people carried around 7 or 8(light staff-if smn,bst,healer of some kind were another job you lvl'ed) HQ staves before abyssea update. why would you have something that is less than an NQ staff comparred to an HQ pre-update.

Because it took far less effort to get a hold of Vulcan's Staff pre-patch than it takes to upgrade a TotM Staff to the point of being useful.


To be completely fair, you do have to consider that HQ staves once cost millions of gil to obtain, and collecting them was a significant goal requiring a large investment. The question is better asked in the form "If you once busted your ass for all of the HQ staves when they were the best you could get, why not bust your ass for the TotM staves now that they are the best, by an even larger margin?"

For me, the answer has something to do with return on investment of my time/effort. Back then, it was pretty easy to get BLM geared to the point where you had good gear, and "great" gear was monumentally more expensive for marginal increases. Except for HQ staves, which were expensive, but also a major improvement.

Now, there is still a ton of new stuff that is really good, and not everyone has had the time to obtain it all. While the TotM staves aren't exactly hard, there are other things that can legitimately compete for a place at the top of your personal priority list.

So yeah, I use fire nukes often enough that a TotM staff would be nice to have. I've already finished ice and thunder, so I might start fire. BLM has always been my "main" job, and ultimately I want the best gear I can get for it.

Meanwhile, I dinged a new 75 last night, so I have a place to dump merits now. At least for a short time, considering I already put 40 merits into it last night. So my "maybe I should change to fire potency for a few months" line of thought has been temporarily derailed.
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#12 Feb 09 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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VxSote wrote:
svlyons wrote:
MrSka681 wrote:
my question to the people that ask why make a fire staff
thunder and ice have always been the strongest spells we have but most people carried around 7 or 8(light staff-if smn,bst,healer of some kind were another job you lvl'ed) HQ staves before abyssea update. why would you have something that is less than an NQ staff comparred to an HQ pre-update.

Because it took far less effort to get a hold of Vulcan's Staff pre-patch than it takes to upgrade a TotM Staff to the point of being useful.


To be completely fair, you do have to consider that HQ staves once cost millions of gil to obtain, and collecting them was a significant goal requiring a large investment. The question is better asked in the form "If you once busted your ass for all of the HQ staves when they were the best you could get, why not bust your ass for the TotM staves now that they are the best, by an even larger margin?"

Even when it cost millions of gil, it was still significantly less effort to obtain. I bought all of mine back when they were multi-millions, so it's not like I'm speaking from the position of someone who just recently bought them.
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#13 Feb 09 2011 at 2:44 PM Rating: Default
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i kind of find it funny that people are saying that ToM staves are harder to get than millions of gil. maybe its just me but i find it somewhat relaxing to go out and gather 5-14 mobs up and AOE nuke them to death. my ice staff only took me 25hrs to make. I am by no means saying that you should limit yourselves to just making staves ,but with the update still 2+months away does it really hurt to start one and when you know you have an event 1hr or so away. either grab a couple stones or go camp some low lvl mobs and kill a few off. maybe you kill 4-5 mobs at a time and get 4-5 rounds in before say dyna, then you just knocked out 25 mobs. even on the hardest trials that 1/10th of it. so just widdling then down over the next couple months while we wait for the update doesnt sound as bad to me. I posted this to give my input on where i thought would be the best place togo and maybe get some helpful tips in return.
just another thought came to me as i am running out of nin tools(been lvling thf while doing this trial) i normally make my own but i see people camping the guilds for largly over priced items??? camp a guild or kill some stuff;0 i guess i will leave the choice to u
happy hunting

Edited, Feb 9th 2011 3:50pm by MrSka681
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