I got burned out on FFXI a bit before Abyssea came along. Nothing else for me to do after I got filthy rich and got a relic. Then I thought about coming back and saw my relic was useless. Urge to play successfully killed lol.
Eventually, the urge to play a magic job and to just go explore came back. The welcomed knowledge that FFXI has begun to focus on low numbers and casual times really made me want to come back. I ran endgame events for the better part of 6 years, dealing with large groups of total @#%^ing idiots is the last thing I'd ever wan to do again. Thank the gods for Abyssea!
The real reason for this post is simple. What are some of the essential Atmas for BLMs specifically? I keep hearing things like atmas completely change the entire game in abyssea via a Razed Ruins thread. Is there anything groundbreaking or must-have for BLMs, or is it still melee getting all the love?
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Minikin monstrosity, and beyond.
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Bresss wrote:
Can use Atma of the Baying Moon instead of Atma of the Beyond.
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Bresss wrote:
Can use Atma of the Baying Moon instead of Atma of the Beyond.
Yeah, baying moon is great till you get beyond. Then after that there isn't much reason to use Baying moon unless you need the +30 attack for some strange reason.
Aside from the 2 rog mentioned, might look into Atma of the Gales, specifically for Glavoid/Ulduhashi
Atma of the Smoldering Sky is gonna be boss for Firaja.
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)
rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
Minikin is a full time atma in all situations. What you pair it up with depends on the situation.
Beyond is for general max damage setup.
Ambition is useful if you have to kite.
Allure is good if you don't want to pull hate when trying to hit green.
The other elemental magic damage+ atmas can be useful if you're fighting specific NM's, but the above 3 I find the most useful.
Beyond is for general max damage setup.
Ambition is useful if you have to kite.
Allure is good if you don't want to pull hate when trying to hit green.
The other elemental magic damage+ atmas can be useful if you're fighting specific NM's, but the above 3 I find the most useful.
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Minikin is a full time atma in all situations.
I use Beyond+Dread when killing NMs, myself.
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)
rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
LyltiaofLakshmi wrote:
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Minikin is a full time atma in all situations.
I use Beyond+Dread when killing NMs, myself.
I'm not going to knock it because I haven't tried it, but I am curious what NM's you're fighting that beyond + dread is a better combination then minikin + dread?
Edited, Nov 28th 2010 6:32pm by Ahrana
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Ahrana wrote:
LyltiaofLakshmi wrote:
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Minikin is a full time atma in all situations.
I use Beyond+Dread when killing NMs, myself.
I'm not going to knock it because I haven't tried it, but I am curious what NM's your fighting that beyond + dread is a better combination then minikin + dread?
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Ice MAB+60 > INT+50 for damage, and Refresh+10 is unnecessary with cruor meds. Even if Dread is just +1% droprate, it's still more useful than anything else when the drops are all you're after.
Edit: Sorry misread the question: basically anything that Ice works on and drops an item I want; if it resists/absorbs ice, Minikin wins for sure. Also, Ambition+Dread is what i use for deaggro strats, depending on the mob; for example, on Amun, fulltime movespeed (as in, does not unequip with your gearswaps) lets you deaggro it in one pass instead of the two it usually takes.
Edited, Nov 28th 2010 9:26pm by LyltiaofLakshmi
Edit: Sorry misread the question: basically anything that Ice works on and drops an item I want; if it resists/absorbs ice, Minikin wins for sure. Also, Ambition+Dread is what i use for deaggro strats, depending on the mob; for example, on Amun, fulltime movespeed (as in, does not unequip with your gearswaps) lets you deaggro it in one pass instead of the two it usually takes.
Edited, Nov 28th 2010 9:26pm by LyltiaofLakshmi
rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)
rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
Ok, so I figure my new order of Operations would be:
1) Get BLM level capped in abyssea to get cruor.
2) Get my buyable Lunar abyssite and MM Atma.
3) Go kill the Orobon for a quested Lunar Abyssite, then pick up Beyond.
4) Work on Staff upgrades and AF +1/2 mats. Seems I should be able to Solo/Duo most +1 as BLM.
I was thinking I'd do Head > Feet > Legs.
Few questions though. Regarding yellow weakness, is it based on an element relating to the day in general, so any spell of the proper element, or is it spell/tier specific? Just curious if I can proc weakness every fight as BLM or if I'm SOL if the spell needed is something like Regurgitation. Can I really just get cruor buffs and repeatedly cancel them and have them come back to proc Sorc Ring? Did anyone ever figure out the specifics on Ja spells? Is there a cap to the boost they can get?
So excited to be coming back since my wife is returning as well, so I got a WHM/NIN to duo with lol.
1) Get BLM level capped in abyssea to get cruor.
2) Get my buyable Lunar abyssite and MM Atma.
3) Go kill the Orobon for a quested Lunar Abyssite, then pick up Beyond.
4) Work on Staff upgrades and AF +1/2 mats. Seems I should be able to Solo/Duo most +1 as BLM.
I was thinking I'd do Head > Feet > Legs.
Few questions though. Regarding yellow weakness, is it based on an element relating to the day in general, so any spell of the proper element, or is it spell/tier specific? Just curious if I can proc weakness every fight as BLM or if I'm SOL if the spell needed is something like Regurgitation. Can I really just get cruor buffs and repeatedly cancel them and have them come back to proc Sorc Ring? Did anyone ever figure out the specifics on Ja spells? Is there a cap to the boost they can get?
So excited to be coming back since my wife is returning as well, so I got a WHM/NIN to duo with lol.
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Few questions though. Regarding yellow weakness, is it based on an element relating to the day in general, so any spell of the proper element, or is it spell/tier specific? Just curious if I can proc weakness every fight as BLM or if I'm SOL if the spell needed is something like Regurgitation.
You can cast each spell, and if you don't get grellow, you can deaggro it, wait for it to go passive, and try again until you get it.
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Can I really just get cruor buffs and repeatedly cancel them and have them come back to proc Sorc Ring? Did anyone ever figure out the specifics on Ja spells? Is there a cap to the boost they can get?
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Doesn't atma of the Ultimate better than Hell's Guardian?
He probably has the 3rd Lunar Abyssite, so he can use all 3.
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Well please tell me if I'm nuts but figured with the abyssites I have and minnikin that the obscene amount of INT we get means that MAcc isn't really an issue? I haven't found anything yet which resists me that doesn't resist everything (if you see what I mean). As I have the choice, I don't like the idea of Ultimate for BLM for loss of MP but in truth I guess MP isn't really a huge issue anymore.
with MM, self-refresh, convert, refresh gear, recovery items, restore chests, etc, I can't really see the Max MP meaning anything at all. That's all stuff you can get solo as well, not counting Refresh 2, Ballad's evoker's etc. that you can get from having others in party. That said, MACC could be an issue on enfeebling more resistant mobs if you ever do any such thing or if any such thing exists these days.
Gonna be back online by next week, really excited. Got the wife to give FFXI a try again as she quit before abyssea really got started, now she's canceling her WoW and Aion accounts and got hooked all over again.
Can anyone tell me what a Blizzard V with middle of the road gear and strong atmas should look like? Trying to get an idea of how I should be doing. I had great gear for BLM before salvage, but haven't upgraded since. Guess I'll crack open the piggy bank and get some AH gear to hold me over while I get my +2's.
Gonna be back online by next week, really excited. Got the wife to give FFXI a try again as she quit before abyssea really got started, now she's canceling her WoW and Aion accounts and got hooked all over again.
Can anyone tell me what a Blizzard V with middle of the road gear and strong atmas should look like? Trying to get an idea of how I should be doing. I had great gear for BLM before salvage, but haven't upgraded since. Guess I'll crack open the piggy bank and get some AH gear to hold me over while I get my +2's.
Return1 wrote:
with MM, self-refresh, convert, refresh gear, recovery items, restore chests, etc, I can't really see the Max MP meaning anything at all.
Still i'm definitely loving ultimate. The mab alone is great, but the macc helps too. Not just for the 1-2% of mobs that will resist nukes at all, but also for enfeebs, dark magic, etc.
Edited, Dec 14th 2010 12:53pm by ThePsychoticOne
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If it's as good as I'm thinking it will be, the quick cast from the apocalypse might be really good as well.
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I noticed some new atmas have elemental+ Superior with full benefit of day / weather thingy (ex; Atma of the Frozen Fetters = INT+ Minor, Ice+ Superior, Gain full benefit of Iceday/Ice weather) is the same as like what Atma of the Beyond does?
Balbados wrote:
I noticed some new atmas have elemental+ Superior with full benefit of day / weather thingy (ex; Atma of the Frozen Fetters = INT+ Minor, Ice+ Superior, Gain full benefit of Iceday/Ice weather) is the same as like what Atma of the Beyond does?
My guess is that the Ice+ gives ice elemental resistance, and the gain full benefit of Iceday/Ice weather simply means it behaves like Ice Obi. And that would mean it's not similar to Atma of the Beyond.
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svlyons wrote:
My guess is that the Ice+ gives ice elemental resistance
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
svlyons wrote:
My guess is that the Ice+ gives ice elemental resistance
Is it ice magic acc and potency then?
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svlyons wrote:
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svlyons wrote:
My guess is that the Ice+ gives ice elemental resistance
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
svlyons wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
svlyons wrote:
My guess is that the Ice+ gives ice elemental resistance
This was my thought at first but when I looked at the original dat mine thread on bg, the atmas like Frozen Fetter have just <ICE> listed, whereas Lone Wolf atma lists Fire elemental attack. I don't know anyone personally with the new atmas but I have my fingers crossed that its not just crappy elemental resist.
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NotJim wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
svlyons wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
svlyons wrote:
My guess is that the Ice+ gives ice elemental resistance
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For epeen numbers, I was using:
Beyond/Ultimate/Undying
Without ice weather, was hitting 5900 Blizzard V (I had one hit for 6090, but I don't know why >.<). With Ice weather, was hitting 6300 Blizz V's. Obviously not the atma to use for major events, but for pure damage, allows you to 1 shot most VT- abyssea mobs.
Beyond/Ultimate/Undying
Without ice weather, was hitting 5900 Blizzard V (I had one hit for 6090, but I don't know why >.<). With Ice weather, was hitting 6300 Blizz V's. Obviously not the atma to use for major events, but for pure damage, allows you to 1 shot most VT- abyssea mobs.
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I had one hit for 6090, but I don't know why >.<
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I didn't have it at the time, probably the Yhel jacket +1 >.>
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