Soloing in LimbusFollow

I used to solo Apollyon NW a lot, till I teamed up with another blm and now we duo it ftw. As far as I know, it is the most rewarding solo run if you're looking for Ancient Beastcoins, and it can get your the BLM's item for Apollyon to upgrade your AF.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/NW_Apollyon

Note: All the mobs link, except the bosses. Careful when pulling.

1st Floor
Kill the Bardhas untill the vortex to the 2nd floor open. They take a bit to kill, but unlike normal ghosts, these are susceptible to Sleep (and gravity, and bind), so there shouldn't be any problem. You can kill Pluto (this floor's boss) using the HP/MP chest if you want a shot at the BLM AF+1 material, but if you're there only for coins, don't bother. Watch this video to see how it's done. Pop the time chests, HP/MP chest and move on to the next floor. Bardhas have a terrible drop rate concerning coins.

2nd Floor
You'll fight buffalos here. They're quite squishy against magic (Sleep, Bind and Gravity work), but they hit awfully hard and have a great movement speed. You'll have to sleep or bind after your nukes. It is also possible to solo this floor's boss, Zlatarog, as BLM. Again, you can watch Whimsical do it here. Keep killing them untill the vortex open, then pop the time chests, HP/MP chest and sleep your way to the next floor. Coins drop rate is as bad as Bardha's.

3rd Floor
Again, your goal on this floor is to open the vortex as fast as you can because the Bugards have a bad coin drop rate too. Luckily, these have half the HP of the buffalos and are very, very easy to kill (Sleep, Bind and Gravity work). Unfortunetaly, this floor's boss, Millenary Mossback, is the one dropping the BST AF+1 material and there's no way a solo blm can handle it. Open time chests (one is behind the boss, but you can get it without aggroing if you're careful), HP/MP chest, head to the next floor.

4th Floor
Ah, finally some mobs worth killing. There's 5 wyverns on this floor and they will drop 2 coins each. They have 5000 HP, which isn't much, and are susceptible to Sleep, Bind and Gravity. Only thing you have to be careful about on this floor is the boss, Cynoprosopi. He's a weaker version of Fafnir, but still too hard too for a solo blm (I think, haven't tried). His roaming zone is very, very big, so keep your eyes open for him. He doesn't link with wyverns. Open time chests, HP/MP and head to the last floor once all the wyverns are dead.

5th Floor
The reason why it's best to speed through the first 3 floors lies here. On this floor, you have 4 ennemies. 3 Kronprinz Behemoth and 1 Kaiser Behemoth. The Kaiser, you don't want to fight him solo. He's got too many HP. The Kronprinz, however, have only 7000 HP. Even if they are immune to sleep and stun, gravity and bind work nicely on them, making it possible for a solo blm to kill them. Each of them drop 5 or 6 coins. 2 BLMs can kill Kaiser, or a solo RDM, but 1 BLM just doesn't have enough MP to see it through. Kill the Kronprinz till they're all dead or you ran out of time.

If you get all the Wyverns and all the Kronprinz (need a bit of luck with the vortex on the first floors tho), you'll have a garanteed 25+ coins run. Good nuking and enfeebling gear are required, as well as some merits, to be able to kill the Bardhas and Buffalos without having to rest your MP halfway through.

Well, there it is! I hope someone else knows how to solo a Temenos zone with the possibility of getting the BLM AF material and is willing to share, that way you can upgrade your AF on your own.

Edited, Jul 24th 2007 11:18am by Zachiel

I would just like to add some advice to this. If you are doing this solo and not going to kill the boss on a floor, use your 2hr on the first mob you fight. That way, you can get the benefit of using it if the first mob opens the portal and still use the HP/MP/JA Chest before moving on.

I've always assumed the Temenos North moblins were sleepable.....but are they?

Just wanted to point out that it is possible to win Apollyon NW as a solo BLM, although clearly its pretty damn hard. Check the link below for another account of Apollyon NW, although it was covered just fine above.

http://kanican.livejournal.com/11758.html

Bumping this in hopes that the people who do this can post tips on their success. I won't bump further if no responses result again.

I wouldnt suggest Appolyon NW for coins myself. It can be good coinage if you make it to the 4th floor. Probably about 15 coins total that way. But the problem is on the first 2 floors.

1. Ghosts dont like to die.

They are easily slept, silenced, and gravitied, but they still take a chunk of mp to die! They take 9 to 11 tier 4 nukes to kill, depending upon your gear. Remember that they are very resistant to ice, so you cant use blizzard 4. With proper timing, you can kill one by manafonting, casting several AM II, then switching to tier 4s when manafont wears off. That will take all your mp, and manafont.

You can grab the chest, and do a second ghost the same way. But if the second ghost doesnt pop the portal, your going to need to sleep-nuke the rest of them. There are 7 ghosts on the first floor, and its not uncommon for the 5th ghost to be the one that pops the portal. The first 2 ghosts may only take you 5 or 6 minutes if you manafont them, but after that you may spend 10 minutes per ghost. This means you will probably leave for the second floor with about 10 minutes left.

2. Buffalos dont like to die, and they like to kill you.

Buffalos are easily slept, bound, and gravitied, but they have the running speed of a cheeta on crack. Even with gravity on, these guys run just as fast as you do. And they hit for 500 dmg per attack. What this means is that you cant kite them. And even stopping to use the spell sleep will get you hit, and interupted. For every nuke, you need to:

a. cast the spell
b. run away as soon as you can and wait for the bar to go to 100% so you can cast again
c. stop and cast stun quickly
d. sleep the buffalo

Its not easy, especially with lag, and manafont doesnt really help to much when soloing. Due to the recast timer on stun, you may only get 2 nukes off on manafont, possibly 4 if your willing to risk skipping stun and going to sleep. Still, it takes 9 to 11 nukes to kill a buffalo. Your talking 10 mins to kill one, maybe 5 or 6 minutes if you use manafont.

Again, it may be the 4th or 5th buffalo that pops the portal.

That means on the first 2 floors, you have 1 hour to kill maybe 8 to 10 mobs, its not really possible. Now, if you get lucky, and the first ghost/buffalo you kill opens the portal, then you should be able to kill the boss, and make it to the 4th floor and get 15+ coins. But thats more the happy exception then the rule.

I'll stick to NW then. My first run was there to get the feel of Limbus - just forgot about everything linking. >.>

At least there I can put some distance between me and the mob. How some people managed to solo the gobs in North with it 2 feet in front of them the whole time still escapes me. (Read: Still no tips on it yet)

I do appreciate the input you guys gave though. Rate ups on the thread again.

Thanks! I'll give it one more try later this week perhaps.

I would suggest NW. Pluto is an easy enough solo as blm. And with 1-2 friends that can be trusted, you can kill the dragon too. blmx3 or blm2 and rdm. Also, KB can be taken down by the same setup with ease IF you are confident in your skills.



Krunk of Fenrir

KB is actually a VERY simple fight, its just time consuming and you have to rince and repeat the same kiting and nuking in a certain spot strategy over and over. then again a luck factor plays in as to how early the vortex materialized for you in all the previous levels.

KB is loads of fun, i have actually never tried the dragon NM, any strategies? that wyrm just scares me anytime im on that level since hes so massive... taru ftl ; ;

The Dragon NM is all about trust... and good enfeebling. I have yet to do the Dragon, so this is all here-say. But rotate bind/gravity and just nuke the sh*t outta it. When all mages are low on MP grab the chest fast (after 2hrs of course) and keep at it. It can be done, just takes a little time. If you are going in for the win, Id suggest skipping him unless you got lucky on the fist few floors with time.


Krunk of Fenrir

I finally got round to trying solo limbus this past week, heres how it went,

Sunday :- Tem North

Snuck along to the first war mob, slowly whittled him down in his small room, using grav/sleep + bind (fighting corner to corner), had to pop a few ethers / yags, but was looking ok on mp.

Got him to 25% and had a keyboard lock up >< couldnt do anything, as a result i died with him about 13% 22 mins remaining.

By the time im back up, he is of course 100% hp (couldnt get a dot off because of keyboard lockup), by the time im unweakened i go back to work on him, takes a lot longer than first time as he is resisting a bit and i dont have many meds, finally get him down (using manafont), and move on to the next one as i run out of time ><.

Seems pretty easy as long as you have meds (and a good keyboard lol), incidentally, as my keyboard locked up and got me killed, a foot stool mysteriously flew across my bedroom >.>.

Wednesday :- Apol NW

Hadnt really planned on doing a run, but i logged on and ice day was just beginning, so i figure i scrape together a couple of k more for soap, and by the time im in ill have af pants + obi helping my thunder spells.

WRONG >.< got there and one group as in, and another blm blm rdm trio waiting to go in. At this point i had 200gil to my name, so i wasnt about to just walk away XD.

Finally 2hrs or so later i enter, went in with no meds etc, just wanted to see how things were in there.

Floor 1, followed the advice above, manafonted on first mob. BANG portal 0.o, slept my way through mobs to portal (popping all chests on the way).

Floor 2, again, manafont on mob 1, BANG portal, sleep, pop chests etc

Floor 3 mobs took a little longer to pop portal (5th mob), but thankfully these mobs are a LOT easier, keep gravity on, keep your distance, and 4 nukes sees you through. 2/5 mobs dropped me a coin so bit of a bonus.

Floor 4 - 25 mins on the clock, again mobs very squishy and fell fast. Mob 1, portal! decided not to rush up though, as killing all the non nm mobs on this floor would guarantee me a good coin haul. 2nd mob i made a human error and died, rrd, decided rather than sitting weak, feeling sorry for myself, id use those 5 mins to go get time chests. By the time i was unweak i had 23 mins left, plenty of time to safely take out the 4 remaining mobs. With only 3 mins left, i decide to warp rather than port to floor 5, next time im there im going to port on floor 4 asap for time on the behos.

Ended up with 12 coins, so happy with that (i usually get 3-6 a run with my shell).

From my experience in NW, if you get the luck on floors 1-2, you are laughing, floors 3-4 are incredibly easy, and floor 4 guarantees you 10 coins. I can see this being a frustrating zone though if the luck isnt with you on first 2 floors, and can see you easily never making floor 3-4.

in the whole run, i didnt have 1 resist on enfeebs, my enfeeb setup is igq legs + head, + wzd coat+1 and i have 8/8 enf merits. I also had 8/8 ele merits, and only saw one nuke resisted.

Saturday im going to either try a blm duo in NW, possibly aiming at fighting KB, or a solo run in the tem ele zone.

I tried soloing Temenos North this weekend, and found that I couldn't kill both WAR moblins in 30 minutes. At wiki's info on Temenos North, it says that only one of the Moblin Slaughtermen needs to be killed to pop the chests. Up above in the summary section for the zone, it also says that if one specific mob is the chest dropper, than it's always the one furthest from the entrance to that floor.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? In other words, could I simply kill the Moblin Slaughterman in the northwest corner of the first floor and get the item chest consistently without having to kill both WARs?

Necro-bump for great justice.

I've done NW apollyon and I got to the buffaloes twice, but can't get past them. The first time I died twice to buffaloes. The second time I didn't die at all, but that floor still took me the rest of my time in Limbus because it took 15 minutes to kill each of the three buffaloes.
My strategy on them is pretty much what is described below. I pull one, and alternate nuke-Stun-bind and nuke-stun-sleep. When it's sleeping I can pretty safely assume i've got a good minute thirty so I rest mp as much as I can. Bind even held up pretty good so i was able to get two nukes off of one bind some times.

So basically, why is it taking so long to kill? at this rate, the only way i could even get to the bugard floor is if I do everything perfect AND the portal opens on the second buffalo, but other's testimonies seem to indicate it's not that bad. Does anyone have any helpful hints for buffalo-killing? Is there something I'm missing?

Here's nuking setup I use for this. I know it needs work, but part of why I wanted to do Limbus was to make money:
http://ffxigear.com/?ref=8712

Regarding the buffalo, it may help to start the first nuke under a "maximum MP" setup (if you don't mind risking getting double attacked if you don't pull w/ Gravity) and then proceed to nuke with your normal gear. Maximizing damage/MP is pretty important, too to make sure you don't have to rest for more than 1:30 (the duration of Sleep II) per buffalo when your MP runs out. The last time I did this, I did 1254 or 1258 Blizzard IV, and 1303 or 1307 Thunder IV on the buffaloes before Uggalepih Pendant.

I parse runs just so I can get a summary of how well I am doing. Here is a summary of the time spent on killing four buffalo to open the vortex:

Fight #   Enemy                   Start Time   End Time   Fight Length 
3         Mountain Buffalo           1:26 PM    1:31 PM       00:04:17 
4         Mountain Buffalo           1:31 PM    1:35 PM       00:03:34 
5         Mountain Buffalo           1:37 PM    1:42 PM       00:04:06 
6         Mountain Buffalo           1:44 PM    1:48 PM       00:04:16

As you can see I have to rest a few minutes between kills (except when I use Manafont). I am by no means hyper-efficient about killing buffaloes, so 4-5 minutes per buffalo (not including resting time) is something to aim for.

It's taking so long to kill them because they have a lot of HP. Simple as that. When I duo NW with my friend, it takes us about 3 minutes per Ghost/Buffalo plus 2 minutes resting. So you don't sound long you're being all that slow.


This is what I would recommend. My friend and I regularly duo Apollyon. Our first run at NW, we got to the 5th floor but didn't have enough time to kill all 3 Kronprinz Behemoths. On our 2nd run, we had gotten the duo kinks out enough that we made it to Kaiser. It took us quite a few failed attempts to take out KB, but we've finally gotten to the point where it's routine for us to win, provided we don't get totally shafted by portals.

If you don't beat KB, you've gotten at least 15 coins just from the 3 mini Behemoths, plus whatever else you got climbing. Beat KB, and that's another 5 coins to add to the split. Our last run, we came away with 28 coins after beating KB to split between us. We also only killed one Wyvern, so the coin haul could have been higher. As it turned out though, we wouldn't have had the time for any more Wyverns.

In my experience, I've found that on average each Ghost or Buffalo takes us about 5 minutes, each Bugard or Wyvern takes us 3 minutes, and each mini Behemoth takes us about 5 minutes. We usually need anywhere between 15 and 22 minutes to take down Kaiser Behemoth. So I use those numbers to estimate if we have a shot at taking down Kaiser for the last chest. Once we're on the 4th floor, if it doesn't look like we have enough time, we can take the time we have left for Kaiser and instead use it to farm the Drakes.

Abuse bind, especially on buffalo floor. I can get 2-3 nukes on a bound buffalo before it breaks a lot more often than usual for some reason on those.

Recently i actually had an average of >2 nukes per bind. Several times i had 3 before breaking it, once i broke it with the 4th, and another i even nuked 4 times without breaking it (wore off on it's own). It really freaked me out.

You can get that from F1 of east.