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#1 Nov 14 2003 at 5:49 AM Rating: Default
What's up with all the useless aoe spells blm get?
Its not like there is sow or jboots in this game like eq for blm to aoe kite the mob or aoe stunn to allow pbaoe killing.
#2 Nov 14 2003 at 6:38 AM Rating: Default
quit your crying and go play everqueer
#3 Nov 14 2003 at 6:38 AM Rating: Default
quit your crying and go play everqueer
#4 Nov 14 2003 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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actually, quit YOUR crying and continue to play a somewhat unbalanced game. there are definatly spells in a blk mages line up which make little sense based on the spells availible.
#5 Nov 14 2003 at 2:48 PM Rating: Default
The spells are there so that when you enter a place like Gusgen mines (four skeletons in the first room that almost always come in a group), you'll have alternate solutions for the problem.

They're situational, and can be dangerous if you're not careful, but they give you additional options.
#6 Nov 16 2003 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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One use of these spells is to use as stronger nuke against ONE mob.

The damage of these spells depends on the number of mobs affected by spells. Fewer mobs are hit harder. If you cast on only one mob, it deals greater damage than a corresponding not-ga spell. Of course you must cast where no other mob around.
#7 Nov 16 2003 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default
Why use the word "***", I suppose it just shows how rude and immature some people can be.
#8 Nov 16 2003 at 2:14 PM Rating: Default
I believe its called an abbreviation.......
#9 Nov 16 2003 at 2:15 PM Rating: Default
I believe its called an abbreviation..............
#10 Nov 16 2003 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
I believe it's called and abbreviation.......................
#11 Nov 16 2003 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Im sure that "***" wasn't a derogatory statement. Video game forums are the lands of abbreviation.

As far as the spell issue. Lets face it. Its going to come down to a select number of spells that all casting classes will use, and the rest is just "filler".
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#12 Nov 17 2003 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
Kengoshinakuma wrote:
Im sure that "***" wasn't a derogatory statement.


The term does have a derogatory meaning to some because of the 'Slap a ***' World War II propaganda.

Edited, Mon Nov 17 20:40:56 2003 by Bigbambu
#13 Nov 17 2003 at 9:58 PM Rating: Default
God I hate liberals and how everything has to have a racist intent in it.
#14 Nov 17 2003 at 10:12 PM Rating: Default
Right, and Dev is for developer, but the time was taken out to type that out. I'm nto a liberal, but that struck me as immediatly racist. Why bring the race of the developers up at all?

Kengoshinakuma wrote:
Im sure that "***" wasn't a derogatory statement. Video game forums are the lands of abbreviation.

As far as the spell issue. Lets face it. Its going to come down to a select number of spells that all casting classes will use, and the rest is just "filler".
#15 Nov 17 2003 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
LOL. "God I hate liberals". No racism there...stereotype conservative.
#16 Nov 17 2003 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
LOL. "God I hate liberals". No racism there...stereotype conservative.
#17 Nov 17 2003 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
i think its funny someone from EQ calling FFXI "unbalanced"
i played everquest for 3.5 years and its classes are so unbalanced right now that people dont want to play there warriors and are having a sit down strike actually today nov 18.

not to mention the one "uber" mob in game the sleeper was almost killed this week on rallos server and the GM's despawned it saying they dont want it killed....

***** everquest. and ***** SoE.

this game is balanced you just have to get used to its UI and set up.just because you cant quad kite does not make it crap.
#18 Nov 17 2003 at 11:40 PM Rating: Default
Yeah...and **** created Everquest now that I think about it...
#19 Nov 18 2003 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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Verant Interactive, the developer of Everquest, is based in San Diego, California.

Squaresoft is indeed Japanese.

These have very little relevance to the matter at hand. (Though I am surprised that Kyrafyrm came close to death in any way shape or form.)

What does have relevance to the issue is that the -ga spells have their use. It's up to the players to discover the strategic combos that allow it to be used effectively (I've seen it done to create quick and easy XP chains in certain dungeon rooms, when used in conjunction with three other specific spells and abilities).
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#20 Nov 18 2003 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Let me say that the -ga line spells DO have their uses! Number one when the spell is used against a single mob it does much more damage than any other spell you usually have if you use your stongest -ga spell. For instance at level 19 my blizzard does 82 max while waterga does 112. With that power comes a risk as it is an area effect spell and the more mobs you hit with it the less damage each takes. Number 2 i find it WONDERFUL for farming things like goblins in the tower area of windurst. I can clean the place up fast using the -ga line and come out with a stack of onions and a inventory full of armor and clothcraft stuff. You just need to take a close look at the spells, no spell I have found as of yet is worthless. Take Drain it seems useless when you first get it at 12 (if you take the time to get it at that level) since most peoples dark skill is VERY low at that point. I was draining somewhere around 12 when i got it. At 19 with a 53 dark skill i can now drain upwards of 80! All in all my rambling comes to this, take some time and be inventive and even "crap spells" can become useful!
#21 Nov 19 2003 at 3:40 PM Rating: Default
The best way to abbreviate Japanese/Japan is Jpn, still 3 letters and no one gets offended :)
#22 Nov 19 2003 at 8:23 PM Rating: Default
You cant even **** with a minority in the room without commiting a racist act because a liberal in the room will accuse you of it.

#23 Nov 19 2003 at 9:21 PM Rating: Default
I'm Japanese, and yah the stupid thread name kinda made me mad, but I got to thinking that its only a name. And its only derrogatory only if I think of it that way. Heck with it, I'm proud to be ***! Gotta let go of old stigmatisms.
#24 Nov 20 2003 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
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the "***" statement in the game was a derogatory remark weather an abbreviation or not because it made it sound like american developers are better at balancing a game or smarter, i promise thats not true lol look at EQ or SWG. but anyway yes the developers have some problems with balancing this game but every game is released unbalanced, ive yet to play one that isnt. stick with the game and it will be balanced out and some of the "filler" spells will be used more often. one thing i would love to see added to this game is a movement buff like SoW or something of that nature as of right now theifs are the only ones that have access to a speed buff, I.E. Flee. this skill should be used as a speed buff that will stack with any other speed buff but there should be one that anyone has access too, make it a lvl 30spell that BLM/RDM/WHM all have access too. that way it wont be such a coveted spell and ppl wont try to exploit for "tips" and give bards a group effect one at the same lvl. thats just the way i would do it.
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#25 Nov 20 2003 at 11:18 PM Rating: Default
This sad thread is still here at the top of the BLM forums..

My 2 Beastmen coins:

"Stupid unbalanced spells from *** developers".

The problem with that subject is not the incorrect abbreviation of Japanese, however crude. The problem is that it's there at all. If it had read "...from Square-Enix", fine. But generalizing to such an extent, implies that there is perhaps something wrong with all Japanese developers, and that they, as their spells, might be stupid.

This is not cool.

The thing is - their nationality has nothing to do with it. There are stupid Japanese, and smart Japanese. And Lord knows there are stupid Americans.

Oh - And smart ones too.

I don't agree that the spells are unbalanced however.

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#26 Nov 21 2003 at 8:25 AM Rating: Default
IMO the spells are balanced just fine, aggro is wierd to get used to, but the "aga" line owns.

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#27 Nov 24 2003 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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i figure i gotta input because I AM A LIBERAL and i'm sick of being put down. Its hardly a liberal thing to be offended by racist comments, its a HUMAN thing last i checked. Either way I and the majority of hte people in these forums are waaaaaay younger than the World War II generation and personally the title of this thread offended me not.
#28 Nov 24 2003 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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No, but it is a liberal thing to say something is racist when no racism is intended.

I do not know if the original poster was being racist or not. I do know, however, he's a stupid whining noob.

Personally I abbreviate Japanese as .jp. I figure if the internet uses it, it's good enough for me.
#29 Nov 24 2003 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
Hmm, I'm a BLM and I can take even match's at level 21, maybe you people complaining about spell power need to just hone your skills more, play the game for like 6 months, then complain, the beta was a lot different, bind never worked correctly, then it was hard, but here bind works perfect and is probably one of the BLM's best aspect for single person leveling. Anyway, don't complain, get better equipment and practice more, the game has only been out for a month or less and you're already complaining, after my beta character was lost I just started over and ended up doing way better than before, the fact is, the people complaining about spell power just SUCK and so they get mad and blame it on the **** game, get over it, the developers of the game made it how it is and they probably know a **** of a lot about RPG's than YOU do. OH yeah, and don't compare this game to other games, that's just flaigrantly retarded, this isn't that game so stfu.
#30 Nov 25 2003 at 1:06 AM Rating: Default
OKay, Don't know why I keep coming back to this thread but here goes.

I agree totally with the last poster, up until the point he/she told people to, "stfu." I think forums are here for people to share their thoughts.

Also, to the Scholar, just because you weren't around the time perdiod a derogatory name arose don't mean that it still doesn't offend. Its the intent that causes feelings to be hurt. If you're japanese, and some other person of a diff eth came up to your face and called you a *** then I doubt you'd be happy about it. Consequently, if you were with friends and they were joking around and called you the same name you'd probably just shrug it off and laugh.

Anyhow, i'mma "stfu" now.
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