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#1 Mar 18 2012 at 1:04 PM Rating: Default
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Is their a guide for solo skillchains? As well as what spells would you cast?

I did google and check over a few sites but came up emepty handed.

#2 Mar 20 2012 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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Here: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Skillchains

Look for the level 1 and level 2 skillchains (at level 2, only the ones you can do with single elemental properties), and just immanence both of your nukes, while casting the second sufficiently fast.

Immanence Water V -> Immanence Blizzard V should do the most damage (provided you cast Blizzard V fast enough for it to SC), since the SC itself will benefit from the staff affinity bonus, and the 50% extra damage will become 60%*1.35*1.15 = 93% extra damage, from AF3+2 hands, Vourukasha I, and cape+obi plus ice weather. That should be more than spending the two stratagems in casting two ebullienced Blizzard V's (60% extra damage). The extra 31% extra damage should be enough to compensate for the lower Water V damage.

Problem is, I don't see any content worth doing solo that would require such amount of damage. In Abyssea all normal mobs are 1-shot with an ebullienced Blizz V, and outside of it... Either you are in party/alliance (immanence is pretty much useless due to random WS ruining your SC), or you are fighting trash that won't require Immanence.

Edit: Actually, Blizz V -> Thunder V is way better, uses our 2 best nukes and ends in a thunder SC, boosted in the same way I mentioned before. I totally forgot we had Thunder V since I don't have the magian thunder staff and tend to use it so little :P

Edited, Mar 20th 2012 10:39pm by TaimMeich
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#3 Mar 24 2012 at 12:10 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, well thanks for the one post. Their is much more to learn so I feel I will post some stuff I found and tried out.

Solo Dark Skill Chain (Staff)
Immanence > Luminohelix > Immanence > Alacrity > Stone X > Alacrity > Ebullience > Omniscience > Stone X/Water X/Blizzard X/Drain


Solo Light Skill Chain (Club)
Immanence > Fire X > Immanence > Alacrity > Thunder X > Alacrity > Ebullience > Black Halo > Aero X/Fire X/Thunder X/Luminohelix


Here is a link of discussion.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/archive/index.php/t-5544.html?s=ed9f36081d6f107bf43e5a0fb3c68961

But, these were made at the 75 cap.

I want to know about the three other weaponskills. retrabution for staff, Shattersoul, and flash nova for club.

Maybe I have to put this in a post of general foroum so people will respond.



Edited, Mar 24th 2012 2:10pm by kimjongil76
#4 Mar 24 2012 at 1:05 PM Rating: Default
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Solo darkness

Luminhelix + stone = Distortion. Shattersoul = Darkness

#5 Aug 23 2012 at 10:35 PM Rating: Default
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OK.....


From the person who brought you the massive skill chain guide for sch. I now bring you a skill chain and MB that will bring BLM and NM's to their knees and deaths!!!! And I dedicate this to Our GM void.

While doing Sobek I would two hour and use Kaustra. 4000-6000. I did use the one temp for Magic attack acc + bonus.
So he would die as you fled for 60-90 seconds.

Thewn I took it to the next level. Luminhelix + stone = distortion + Shattersoul = Darkness MB Kaustra = 9500!!!!!!!!! That's about 2500 DoT every 3 seconds!!! Even 30M meteor taru's will have to bow to our power!!!!!!!

On side note, Almace is MINE!!!!!!!

Atmas used: Maybe a better combo out there: MM + Cosmos + Ultimate. I wish I had PW's atma :(.

BTW Mujin band owns for this, as it is 5% bonus to SC + MB.

So this brings me to another question. I am guessing no one has tried it Can We Skill Kaustra + Kaustra = Darkness? Then of course MB it a 3rd time, as it should be ready by the 1st person who did it? Assuming you had two members?





Edited, Aug 24th 2012 1:04am by kimjongil76
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#6 Aug 31 2012 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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kimjongil76 wrote:
OK.....


From the person who brought you the massive skill chain guide for sch. I now bring you a skill chain and MB that will bring BLM and NM's to their knees and deaths!!!! And I dedicate this to Our GM void.

While doing Sobek I would two hour and use Kaustra. 4000-6000. I did use the one temp for Magic attack acc + bonus.
So he would die as you fled for 60-90 seconds.

Thewn I took it to the next level. Luminhelix + stone = distortion + Shattersoul = Darkness MB Kaustra = 9500!!!!!!!!! That's about 2500 DoT every 3 seconds!!! Even 30M meteor taru's will have to bow to our power!!!!!!!

On side note, Almace is MINE!!!!!!!

Atmas used: Maybe a better combo out there: MM + Cosmos + Ultimate. I wish I had PW's atma :(.

BTW Mujin band owns for this, as it is 5% bonus to SC + MB.

So this brings me to another question. I am guessing no one has tried it Can We Skill Kaustra + Kaustra = Darkness? Then of course MB it a 3rd time, as it should be ready by the 1st person who did it? Assuming you had two members?


Edited, Aug 24th 2012 1:04am by kimjongil76


congrats Kimjongil76

That sounds like alot of fun.
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#7 Aug 31 2012 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
kimjongil76 wrote:
OK.....


From the person who brought you the massive skill chain guide for sch. I now bring you a skill chain and MB that will bring BLM and NM's to their knees and deaths!!!! And I dedicate this to Our GM void.

While doing Sobek I would two hour and use Kaustra. 4000-6000. I did use the one temp for Magic attack acc + bonus.
So he would die as you fled for 60-90 seconds.

Thewn I took it to the next level. Luminhelix + stone = distortion + Shattersoul = Darkness MB Kaustra = 9500!!!!!!!!! That's about 2500 DoT every 3 seconds!!! Even 30M meteor taru's will have to bow to our power!!!!!!!

On side note, Almace is MINE!!!!!!!

Atmas used: Maybe a better combo out there: MM + Cosmos + Ultimate. I wish I had PW's atma :(.

BTW Mujin band owns for this, as it is 5% bonus to SC + MB.

So this brings me to another question. I am guessing no one has tried it Can We Skill Kaustra + Kaustra = Darkness? Then of course MB it a 3rd time, as it should be ready by the 1st person who did it? Assuming you had two members?

Edited, Aug 24th 2012 1:04am by kimjongil76


Skillchaining with spells on Scholar really isn't that hard to figure out, since as long as you know the normal skillchain chart, you can figure out how to skillchain with spells. Just match the element of the spell with the appropriate skillchain property.

Light - Transfixion
Darkness - Compression
Fire - Liquefaction
Thunder - Impaction
Wind - Detonation
Earth - Scission
Water - Reverberation
Ice - Induration


Luminohelix is light based, thus aligned with Transfixion, and Stone is Scission aligned since it's earth based. A Transfixion opener with a Scission closer will be Distortion given how the skillchain charts work. As long as you know the elements of the spells, then you'll know how to skillchain. It's not a special guide you need to have like Blue Mage, where it's unclear what all properties it has, so it's uncertain where spells might fit as far as openers or closers.

I also wouldn't downplay Meteor that much, since, in Abyssea, multiple Black Mages using Meteor are hitting levels that are otherwise brew only, whereas that combination you're listing with Kaustra is not much different than what normal DDs are capable of doing in there with proper Atmas. It's really good damage, but give a Black Mage a few solid elemental nukes during a skillchain and they'll put up just as much damage in about the same amount of MP expended. Not to mention that, barring something like intense soothing lights, you may not be able to use it again for a couple of hours, whereas Black Mages will be up and running with Meteor in 15 minutes, not to mention cannot be resisted, whereas Kaustra could.


Edited, Aug 31st 2012 4:50pm by Vlorsutes
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#8 Sep 01 2012 at 10:16 PM Rating: Default
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Vlorsutes wrote:
kimjongil76 wrote:
OK.....


From the person who brought you the massive skill chain guide for sch. I now bring you a skill chain and MB that will bring BLM and NM's to their knees and deaths!!!! And I dedicate this to Our GM void.

While doing Sobek I would two hour and use Kaustra. 4000-6000. I did use the one temp for Magic attack acc + bonus.
So he would die as you fled for 60-90 seconds.

Thewn I took it to the next level. Luminhelix + stone = distortion + Shattersoul = Darkness MB Kaustra = 9500!!!!!!!!! That's about 2500 DoT every 3 seconds!!! Even 30M meteor taru's will have to bow to our power!!!!!!!

On side note, Almace is MINE!!!!!!!

Atmas used: Maybe a better combo out there: MM + Cosmos + Ultimate. I wish I had PW's atma :(.

BTW Mujin band owns for this, as it is 5% bonus to SC + MB.

So this brings me to another question. I am guessing no one has tried it Can We Skill Kaustra + Kaustra = Darkness? Then of course MB it a 3rd time, as it should be ready by the 1st person who did it? Assuming you had two members?

Edited, Aug 24th 2012 1:04am by kimjongil76


Skillchaining with spells on Scholar really isn't that hard to figure out, since as long as you know the normal skillchain chart, you can figure out how to skillchain with spells. Just match the element of the spell with the appropriate skillchain property.

Light - Transfixion
Darkness - Compression
Fire - Liquefaction
Thunder - Impaction
Wind - Detonation
Earth - Scission
Water - Reverberation
Ice - Induration


Luminohelix is light based, thus aligned with Transfixion, and Stone is Scission aligned since it's earth based. A Transfixion opener with a Scission closer will be Distortion given how the skillchain charts work. As long as you know the elements of the spells, then you'll know how to skillchain. It's not a special guide you need to have like Blue Mage, where it's unclear what all properties it has, so it's uncertain where spells might fit as far as openers or closers.

I also wouldn't downplay Meteor that much, since, in Abyssea, multiple Black Mages using Meteor are hitting levels that are otherwise brew only, whereas that combination you're listing with Kaustra is not much different than what normal DDs are capable of doing in there with proper Atmas. It's really good damage, but give a Black Mage a few solid elemental nukes during a skillchain and they'll put up just as much damage in about the same amount of MP expended. Not to mention that, barring something like intense soothing lights, you may not be able to use it again for a couple of hours, whereas Black Mages will be up and running with Meteor in 15 minutes, not to mention cannot be resisted, whereas Kaustra could.


Edited, Aug 31st 2012 4:50pm by Vlorsutes



I agree with you that in a few spells a BLM can out dmg a sch with meteor, or melees can do many SC's. But the fun part is popping the NM + SC Kaustra. run away towards the end of the lizard camp, and along the way watch sobek fall due to kaustras DoT. This being done all by yourself.

I did this on Kur recently and the big dragon in the ulrange zone. He to fell to kaustra. The LS member was happy with his hearts.

Due to a long two hour, you can take down 4-8 NM's with one two hour.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 12:35am by kimjongil76
#10 Sep 04 2012 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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I agree with you that in a few spells a BLM can out dmg a sch with meteor, or melees can do many SC's. But the fun part is popping the NM + SC Kaustra. run away towards the end of the lizard camp, and along the way watch sobek fall due to kaustras DoT. This being done all by yourself.

I did this on Kur recently and the big dragon in the ulrange zone. He to fell to kaustra. The LS member was happy with his hearts.

Due to a long two hour, you can take down 4-8 NM's with one two hour.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2012 12:35am by kimjongil76


One of the big problems with doing it this way, especially by yourself, is that doing it with this setup is inefficient. For starters, without procs you're running the risk of that Kur not giving you the KI. Second, you've got no Thief in the mix, so those Sobeks and Isgebinds might not drop the second Empyrean upgrade item they're capable of, and lastly, for both Sobek and Isgebind, it's just a really risky situation since you're looking at mobs that can and do paralyze. What would happen if, when attempting to cast Kaustra, your casting was paralyzed, and then your skillchain would be ruined. Not to mention these are sufficiently strong enough NMs that if you, a mage, were caught paralyzed mid-cast, they have the capacity to do a significant chunk of damage/kill you as you're trying to get situated. Lastly, there's the fact that you're going from a skillchain with a weaponskill to running away and kiting the mob. That very easily leaves time for the mob to go unclaimed, and even with that Kaustra damage on there, a strong enough DD with TP at the ready could easily run in, weaponskill it, and claim it to him, and there's really nothing you could do about it.

Would it be fun in some situations? Sure, I imagine it would. But given that efficiency is a big part of the game and your setup is banking a fair bit on luck, it's just a setup that strikes me as more risky than worthwhile.
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#11 Sep 04 2012 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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I'm glad to see you're having fun, but doing this kind of stuff in Abyssea is the Vana'diel equivalent of a 40-year old manchild splashing around in a kiddie pool.
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