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#1 Dec 25 2010 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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I was just curious to hear how others are going about collecting their seals. These have been more of a pain for me than my other mage jobs. Ironclad Smiter is the easiest top pop of the 3 NMs that drop the seals, but I've had terrible luck getting seals from it. It seems to drop SAM and NIN a lot.

I've fought the t1 goblin about 8 times or so with a THF and it hasn't dropped the item to spawn Bomblix Flamefinger. (To anyone who has fought him, can he be duo'ed? There isn't much info on him aside from his spells and the bomb move)

There is also the khimaira but getting the ??? to pop takes a lot of work if no one has been fighting the NMs and collecting 3 pop items is a hassle if they are not on the AH. I saw someone on BG say that it can be easily duo'ed by a THF and RDM. Does anyone have experience with it? JP Wiki lists it's moves and says that it is a normal khimaira but I don't have much experience with them.

Any input would be most appreciated.

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#2 Dec 25 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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Bomblix is almost as easy as the nm before him (same method of tanking) BUT @ 10% as I was trioing (rdm sch mnk) he gained access to frag bomb which hit the mnk for 5.7k and we lost so im guessing you would have to use fool's drink and finish it quickly or kite it after that in a lowman situation. I'm still 0/10 myself



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#3 Dec 25 2010 at 3:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bomblix actually can use Frag Bomb at any time in the fight, it is not exclusive to under 25%HP. This was discovered by myself and a few friends when we killed him the first time and he used it only once under 25%. Thinking it wasn't too bad, we fought him again and he proceeded to use it three times that fight. It seems to be a random TP move of his. If you get incredibly unlucky, he will spam it.

Fool's Drink doesn't prevent the damage either. I am unsure of Fanatic's. He really is annoying as a NM, but the fight can go quick enough, and as long as your healer can keep you topped off for Frag Bomb (and stay out of range), it should be ok.

Oh, as for Khimaira, he really is quite a simple fight. Just keep your mage out of range and heal your tank/dd as needed and things will be fine. I don't really remember anything special about him, since the fight went so quickly, but I think he casts soma -aga spells? I believe he also casts Burst but I might be mixing up my NMs. Just make sure you have a competent healer and things should be fine.

I am really preferring Ironclad Smiter for the fight, since he's the simplest and Rani needs to be killed a bunch of times anyway for his drops so if you can, I recommend trying to kill him.

I'm 2/10 on SCH seals, killing all these NMs over and over and wasting about 5 stones (so far) on the stupid Let there be Light quest :< Suckers don't like to put out.

Edited, Dec 25th 2010 4:42pm by Shiala

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#4 Dec 25 2010 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the information! Can Frag Bomb be stunned? That seems like it would make the fight much more manageable.
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#5 Dec 25 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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Our Rdm/Drk was constantly trying to stun w/ no luck seems rather resistant. Also what khimaira is there haven't seen that on ffxiclopedia under sch body seals, though tbh I think I'm gonna have to suck it up and do the ironclad smiter.
#6 Dec 25 2010 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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Dantedmc wrote:
Our Rdm/Drk was constantly trying to stun w/ no luck seems rather resistant. Also what khimaira is there haven't seen that on ffxiclopedia under sch body seals, though tbh I think I'm gonna have to suck it up and do the ironclad smiter.


Well that is a bummer.

Dhorme Khimaira drops sch, blu, war and drk seals. It takes 3 items to pop (normal marids, Sisyphus item and an item from a snoll NM) and it looks like marids, and both the NM's need to be at 100% for the ??? to appear.
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#7 Dec 25 2010 at 6:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dantedmc wrote:
Our Rdm/Drk was constantly trying to stun w/ no luck seems rather resistant. Also what khimaira is there haven't seen that on ffxiclopedia under sch body seals, though tbh I think I'm gonna have to suck it up and do the ironclad smiter.


Yes, it seems to be highly resistant to stun, if not immune. Both Stun and Head **** were resisted entirely everytime they were cast.

As of this moment there seems to be no known way to avoid triggering or stopping Frag Bomb. ; ;

I would still recommend you kill him if you want, though. He's not terribly difficult and prefers to cast -ga spells. One WHM and a DD should be able to handle him. You can take two healers for safety's sake and a fool's drink will at least absorb all the fire spells he loves to cast.
#8 Dec 27 2010 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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I am really over that iron giant. 12 straight fights with a thf and yellow weakness most of the time and not a single savant seal drop. Considering what a pain the other 2 NM's are to pop I seriously hope their drop rates are much better.

Edited, Dec 27th 2010 9:47am by Sasaraixx

Edited, Dec 27th 2010 11:25am by Sasaraixx
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#9 Dec 28 2010 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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After some questing and a few more hours on the giant I finally have my gown +1! Anyone know what the enhancement to the addendum does? People on BG have looked for mab, additional spells, cut mp cost, casting speed and recast but have come up with nothing. I hope it's not macc as we already have plenty. Enmity down is another option I guess. I'm not sure how to go about testing either of those though.
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#10 Jan 03 2011 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been trying to get mine through the quest and it's been a pain. Roughly 80 stones down and @9 seals right now.
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#11 Jan 11 2011 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah getting pop item from t1 gob is a pain in the ass, with or without blue!! with or without thf drop rate was terrible. Goblin was stingy with seals anyway, we finished an entire RDM body before we got the only SCH seal he ever dropped. The rest of mine came from ironclad in altepa (this was before we knew about khimaira). kitable and easily nukable. For +2 trinkets i did a combination of Empousa and Alfard. Empousa is doable with MNK + WHM (+SCH) and i've heard that alfard can be kited but i wouldnt try it. As for the addendum enhancement the non-rigorous test i did showed -5 enimty for the +2 body. Definitely need firmer confirmation though.

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#12 Jan 11 2011 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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grevenilvec75 wrote:
As for the addendum enhancement the non-rigorous test i did showed -5 enimty for the +2 body. Definitely need firmer confirmation though.


Wow if that's all I think it's pretty unimpressive ;_; If it only adds -enmity, -5 and -10 would be more reasonable figures. And if it adds macc we'll never know, because I can't think any place where it isn't capped now.
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#13 Jan 12 2011 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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ditto: not impressed

Edited, Jan 12th 2011 1:39am by AlexKrycek
#14 Jan 12 2011 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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Such a small amount of Enmity from a 'non-rigorous' test? I'll reserve judgment for now.
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#15 Jan 17 2011 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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As for the addendum enhancement the non-rigorous test i did showed -5 enimty for the +2 body. Definitely need firmer confirmation though.


I just redid my tests and couldn't replicate my results. I'm no longer confident that the addendum enhancement is a -enmity boost. I guess we are still in the dark about it.
#16 Jan 18 2011 at 10:10 PM Rating: Good
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I'm probably going to get these seals on the Khimaira since I need BLU too; is there any better strategy than mages on the cliff, melee below, Fool's when he chainspells?
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#17 Feb 01 2011 at 3:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Dont want to change anyones method. if you have a ls or a group by all means kill mobs. But I quested my seals. Maybe luck was the biggest factor, but I finally got both my callers +1 and savants+1 (literally getting the last seal for each back to back). Questing wasn't that bad at all. with 10/10 and 10/10 on callers and savants, I was only 9/10 on Iga(maybe i should be a ninja) and 4/10 on the rest. So drop rate wasn't bad. I tried looking for groups but ppl just hate those mobs. I tried teaming up with another sch...but he was like "no..." So while he waited for shouts I went on the quest. I decided to do it on my own. and i used probably 40 stones min. posssibly 45. With what i saw was a 40% to 50% chance of not getting any seal. Best was 3 completes dropping savants back to back to back. then a callers.

Savant is not only really awesome looking a but a great piece. Worth the effort. So is callers.

Strangly I'm 4/10 on narvarch. Simply cause no one lots it cause the body is kinda junk. (Macc+7 being the only worth while stat on it, as i have ACP body made for cor), and cor can wear nebula.

Haven't tested anything...but the "augments blah blah" wasn't the selling factor for me.
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#18 Feb 28 2011 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
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SCH seal drop is really getting to me.

we tried the khim thing and overall it dropped 1 sch 4 drk and others i didnt care about to remember.

on ironcald I be lucky to see one SCH drop. The thing ALWAYS drops drk for me, even when we cant proc it, it drops a drk seal. I seen it drop 3 NIN and a drk once.

I have 7 DRK seal bodys just because they where fee lot and no one really needs them anymore, I put some effort in finishing my 10 SAM body seals.

I did a quest about 8 times now where i got 1 SMN, 1 SCH, 1 DRG body from.

I really hate SCH body seals, so far i spent 4 times as much going after sch then sam and im still not done.
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#19 Feb 28 2011 at 4:57 PM Rating: Default
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hows this for a streak?

SMN > SMN > SMN > SCH for the last 4 i did
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#20 Mar 14 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Khimaira and Goblin are a waste of time; go solo the Ironclad and be done with it if you (still) don't have this done. And lets not hear any nonsense about droprates favouring one seal over another, as it wasn't true before, and it certainly isn't true now that we have official confirmation as such.
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#21 Jul 18 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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What's a good strategy to solo the ironclad?
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