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#1 Dec 06 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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#2 Dec 06 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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LMAO yhel jacket eat your heart out
#3 Dec 06 2010 at 12:49 PM Rating: Good
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I agree. I'm really looking forward to finding out what the enhances addendum means... refresh is just icing on the cake.
#4 Dec 06 2010 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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#5 Dec 06 2010 at 6:55 PM Rating: Default
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Well, I play Blu, Drk, and Sch. And Sch AF3 wins hands down. Its the job I am excitedto get my body for.
#6 Dec 07 2010 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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Agreed. I am finishing off my drk, then working on my Apoc with the 5 kills and working on my sch. Sch these last few updates has become completely overpowered if you know how to play it correctly. :)
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#7 Dec 07 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Sch these last few updates has become completely overpowered if you know how to play it correctly. :)


My BLM is dealing 5k+ damage with spells firing around 20-25% on the casting time bar... SCH is still way behind.
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#8 Dec 07 2010 at 11:25 PM Rating: Default
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FYI SCH isnt way behind, its still ahead, it just hasnt got Blizzard V yet. A SCH cannot compare with a BLM in damage when said SCH hasnt got that perticular spell, it stands to reason.

Until BLM get Hailstorm, BLM will fall behind SCH in damage spell for spell. Its not skill, gear or luck its mathematics.

If my mathematics are correct my Blizzard V will do 5500+ with AotB and AotMM + normal buffs. Thats not to mention the potential for a Skillchain behind that. No BLM can match that AT THE MOMENT with the same aparatas without having Hailstorm applied by a SCH.

I thought that the BLM community has come to terms with and accepted that weather + Ebullience made SCH the king of nukes, and this has been the truth for what 2-3 years now?

SE heeded the disparate cries of BLM and gave them -ja spells and this utility makes you in many ways superior in nuking and utility than SCH. The fact that Ebullience is now +25% potency (more with AF3 feet and Klimaform) makes the gap even more pronounced.

I for one have never been even appoached in damage by any BLM in damage spell for spell unless I give them weather and they have obis, and I have only very good gear, not excellent.

If left in any doubts BLM, find your nearest SCH taru like me and ask to go head to head. That should sort a few things out.

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#9 Dec 08 2010 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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Well, to be fair: at this point I feel like the real limitations in damage are cast/recast times and enmity (when applicable), more than Max Nuke damage or MP.

BLM does have a lot of spells to cycle trough, and that new Celerity JT seems to be pretty strong. The Time:Damage ratio really favors BLM now.

And now Enmity in group scenarios. SCH has the advantage that Helix are being pretty much hateless and easier means of capping -Enmity without resorting to elaborate -Enmity builds or atmas. But BLM has Manawall which means they can just straight tank anything that goes their way, and the new Enmity dump JA might just seal the deal.

All in all, I think that BLM is definitely above SCH right now; mostly because SCH doesn't have Bliz V yet. But even after that I don't see SCH dominating BLM like it did at 75; which seems pretty fair. I guess it will boil down to just how much we can abuse the Skillchain JA.

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#10 Dec 08 2010 at 8:24 AM Rating: Default
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But sch can quickly change and debuff and cure support like a blm can't
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#11 Dec 08 2010 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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FYI SCH isnt way behind, its still ahead, it just hasnt got Blizzard V yet. A SCH cannot compare with a BLM in damage when said SCH hasnt got that perticular spell, it stands to reason.

Until BLM get Hailstorm, BLM will fall behind SCH in damage spell for spell. Its not skill, gear or luck its mathematics.

If my mathematics are correct my Blizzard V will do 5500+ with AotB and AotMM + normal buffs. Thats not to mention the potential for a Skillchain behind that. No BLM can match that AT THE MOMENT with the same aparatas without having Hailstorm applied by a SCH.

I thought that the BLM community has come to terms with and accepted that weather + Ebullience made SCH the king of nukes, and this has been the truth for what 2-3 years now?

SE heeded the disparate cries of BLM and gave them -ja spells and this utility makes you in many ways superior in nuking and utility than SCH. The fact that Ebullience is now +25% potency (more with AF3 feet and Klimaform) makes the gap even more pronounced.

I for one have never been even appoached in damage by any BLM in damage spell for spell unless I give them weather and they have obis, and I have only very good gear, not excellent.

If left in any doubts BLM, find your nearest SCH taru like me and ask to go head to head. That should sort a few things out.



While most of this is true, any good sch will try and keep weather up on any blms in their pt as well. In a party situation, if you're not buffing your fellow members, you're thinking too much with your e-peen and holding the whole party back, while making yourself look better.

ps. using Alacrity will net you more dot then Ebullience, unless what your fighting is dieing too quickly to cast 2 nukes, then 1 bigger one wins out.

pss. don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Sch supporter, but in terms of pure nuking, Blm is king right now, but Sch can do more than just nuke, we can buff, heal and nuke
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#12 Dec 09 2010 at 5:37 AM Rating: Good
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BLM is ahead of us for pure nuking and I believe they should be. The gap will close a bit with the next update I think. SCH will finally get Bliz V and if the dat mining is correct, it will also get Comet or Ultima. It is listed as a light based spell so if that is the case, Atma of the Beyond will provide it a huge bonus as well. Assuming neither job receives any new JA/JT (seems unlikely) BLM would still pull ahead but I think SCH will be able to sit comfortably as #2 nuker.
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#13 Dec 10 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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FYI SCH isnt way behind, its still ahead, it just hasnt got Blizzard V yet. A SCH cannot compare with a BLM in damage when said SCH hasnt got that perticular spell, it stands to reason.


FYI, comparing BLM's damage with spells it currently has access to, to SCH's damage that it has yet to gain access to, is retarded, it stands to reason.

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Until BLM get Hailstorm, BLM will fall behind SCH in damage spell for spell. Its not skill, gear or luck its mathematics.

If my mathematics are correct my Blizzard V will do 5500+ with AotB and AotMM + normal buffs. Thats not to mention the potential for a Skillchain behind that. No BLM can match that AT THE MOMENT with the same aparatas without having Hailstorm applied by a SCH.


BLM will still be behind in damage spell for spell once it gets Hailstorm, but it's irrelevant, as BLM has twice as many nukes of each element and casts them faster. The only way a SCH can keep up with a BLM in both damage and casting speed is to burn two charges per spell; if you want to add skillchains into the equation, that's another charge spent. Advantage: BLM.

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I thought that the BLM community has come to terms with and accepted that weather + Ebullience made SCH the king of nukes, and this has been the truth for what 2-3 years now?


BLM can deal over 30,000 damage in a single cast. Pretty sure that makes them the 'king of nukes.'

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The fact that Ebullience is now +25% potency (more with AF3 feet and Klimaform) makes the gap even more pronounced.


Given how knowledgeable you're attempting to come across as, I find it amusing that you don't know how your gear works.

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I for one have never been even appoached in damage by any BLM in damage spell for spell unless I give them weather and they have obis, and I have only very good gear, not excellent.


Come to Lakshmi.

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If left in any doubts BLM, find your nearest SCH taru like me and ask to go head to head. That should sort a few things out.


Do you even know who I am? Look up my post history in these forums; I spent a long time defending SCH against all the naysayers at 75, and would go so far as to say I helped write the book on the ******* job as far as these forums are concerned; don't give me this ****. I guarantee you my BLM, SCH, or RDM would **** your bed if they were to compete. Go away.
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RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

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MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#14 Dec 10 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe it's just my server, but I'm convinced 99% of schs suck at the job and have **** poor nuke sets.

While I have you here, Lytia, do you have any advice on where I can do bees/crabs for ice dmg staff on sch or rdm? I can't ga 3 since I don't have blm so I think I'm gonna be in for a 49372 hr grind no matter where I go.

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 3:24pm by Logiks
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All I can say is SKILLCHAINS can and should be exploited to know end multiple scholars doing multiple chains and MB will be like ffxi version of *** back in the day this was SAMS bread and butter and now a days it can belong to scholars setup correctly the epeen numbers are gonna be insane depending how far a set of scholars can push the chain with T4/5 nukes and MB....
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#16 Dec 10 2010 at 9:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I'll be lucky enough to find another SCH in my endgame LS, let alone one that can skillchain properly.

I think that the best and most immediate use of Immanence is to boost our 2Hour considerably in damage. Being able to increase most nukes damage by 50% on top of the 20% damage of Ebullience is potentially awesome. I'm going to have to think of an optimal nuke sequence to take advantage of this.
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#17 Dec 11 2010 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Logiks wrote:
Maybe it's just my server, but I'm convinced 99% of schs suck at the job and have **** poor nuke sets.
Edited, Dec 10th 2010 3:24pm by Logiks

This, this, so much this. D:
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#18 Dec 11 2010 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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do you have any advice on where I can do bees/crabs for ice dmg staff on sch or rdm? I can't ga 3 since I don't have blm so I think I'm gonna be in for a 49372 hr grind no matter where I go.


Abyssea is the best place to do pretty much every trial at this point, especially on not-BLM; the mobs may be stronger, but you should be much much stronger so it works out. That said, we did bees in Wajaom Woodlands (G-6), there's 2 Pephedro hives right next to each other. Crabs were much more problematic.. I had done pugils for Kubera's in Vunkerl and saw how busy it was so we didn't bother, and of course Kuftal Tunnel was right out, so we just went to Misareaux [A] and killed crabs there. Konschtat [A] is hands-down the only place to go for the Wyvern trial as well.

My suggestion to you is to find 2 BLMs that are either working on the same trials, or just want Abyssea XP, and team up. Go on RDM/BLU with your PDT set, pull the entire group of monsters, and let the BLMs alternate nukes/Sleepgas. It may take some practice for them to figure it out, but once they do, you can finish any trial in <2 hours tops. I really wish I had figured that much out before I was already 95% finished with my staves. -.-
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RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#19Transvestite, Posted: Dec 12 2010 at 11:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thanks for all your replies.
#20 Dec 13 2010 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
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LyltiaofLakshmi wrote:


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BLM will still be behind in damage spell for spell once it gets Hailstorm, but it's irrelevant, as BLM has twice as many nukes of each element and casts them faster. The only way a SCH can keep up with a BLM in both damage and casting speed is to burn two charges per spell; if you want to add skillchains into the equation, that's another charge spent. Advantage: BLM.


Umm not really. I keep reading about Blm's casting faster, BLM's new Elemental Celerity ability might have given them an edge, over "average or ok schs". But any good SCH will have a capped or near capped fast-cast setup for precasting. Pretty much brings sch and blm head to head on casting times. except sch has alacrity job ability. with the new :48 recarge and 5 strategems. Sch's can afford to splurge on alacrity + ebullience on a nuke. .

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BLM can deal over 30,000 damage in a single cast. Pretty sure that makes them the 'king of nukes.'


30k really one spell. I have 90 blm, its strictly for triggering !! on Nms... Is there some spell i missed out on. Theres not 1 spell a BLM has that does 30k+.


[quote]The fact that Ebullience is now +25% potency (more with AF3 feet and Klimaform) makes the gap even more pronounced.

Given how knowledgeable you're attempting to come across as, I find it amusing that you don't know how your gear works.


I agree he got some gear confused. I think he was talking about the AF3+1 hat. and yes the hat provides an additional +5% to ebullience, and +10% if u have af3+2. But his point is not irrelevant. The ability add +25-30% Potency to any magic spell is quite handy. BLM is limited that their potency is in ice and thunder. Outside those two elements, blm is mediocre at best.


Enmity Control: People keep raving about this amazing BLM ability to reduce enmity. Did people forget about Animus Minuo? and oh yeah Minikin? Yes BLM's have douse+manawall. But sch's have had Animus Minuo for some time. If ur nuking in a party w/o Minuo ur not taking advantage of all ur spells.

In the end it really depends on the gear, both blm and sch. As well as how u are measuring the dmg parse. Because as it stands now. the new Skillchain ability with sch allows sch's to make huge amounts of dmg for very little MB as well as participate in melee skill chains, either closing or opening. SCH can now open light, still trying how to open darkness with melee.

My personal favorites are:
Water > Blizzard 4 = Induration + blizz 3 for Magic Burst.

Evisceration > Stone V = distortion + Blizz4 for MB

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 6:32am by Winter4Real
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