Guess I'll make the update threadFollow

List of job adjustments for Scholar in the next update:

Job Traits:
Occult Acumen
Lvl 78
Grants bonus TP when dealing damage with elemental or dark damage

Magic Burst Bonus
Lvl 79
Improves Magic Burst Damage

Job Abilities:
Libra
Lvl 76
Duration: Instant
Recast: 1 minute
Examines the enmity level of the target mob

Spells:
Protect V
Lvl 80

Stone V
Lvl 79 (Addendum: Black)

Yeah, i am happy about that we are getting V spells as well. Looked over BLM thread and they weren't too happy about that at all. Thread seemed like more complaining than anything about V spells and Aspir 2 but oh well. Not everyone can be happy not all jobs got great updates. And moving on~

Kind of wondering about Libra and i understand it but don't understand it? So we can tell how much hate someone has and tell people are about to pull hate? Not too sure about the ability i guess.

Oh also happy about Accession + Haste at 80 SCH/WHM. Finally because been told by people SCH sucks as healer because of no haste... t(^^t) to the people who said that lol

Maybe it just tells you who has hate so you don't have to type /assist ;)

I lol'd at that. I would love to see that or work like that. Best ability ever just if it was like that or maybe

"Colibri is really mad at Paladin!"

Not really sure what the point of giving SCH the TP bonus ability. Scholars don't melee. And even if they did, it'd be so situational/rare that it's not even worth the time of putting it in..

Come on SCHs we have to think outside the box and put all the pieces of this update together.

Obviously we are to start subbing /SAM.

We get full benefit of /SAM with our 2handed staves and Sekkanoki is going to be available at lvl 80 now. So we obviously mediate, go charging in with our mighty staves, whack things around, nuke for more tp (not for damage so no need to switch out your staves), and ws until the mobs cry for mercy.

AND....we use Libra to see when we are about to pull hate from the tank because of our uber melee skillz.

It all makes sense to me. Why doesn't anyone else see this?

<sarcasm off> (in case ppl didn't realize

Libra will probably have situational uses at best. It might come in handy to know who is about to steal hate during a rough fight, so you can cast precautionary spells like Phalanx/Stoneskinga, etc. But with that said, it's usually easy enough to just watch the battle and see how hate is being managed without having to rely on a job ability. The only way Libra would be especially worthwhile is if Scholar is also given a means of manipulating party hate - perhaps a couple of spells that can grant enmity+ or enmity- to party members, or a spell/ability that can reset hate on a selected party member. Short of that, Libra probably won't be used much. It's not enough to know who is about to steal hate if you can't do anything about it, short of buffing them and offering a friendly warning that will most likely be ignored.

Oh, and I'm guessing that the screenshot in the update details of the Colibri with the pink-and-purple targeting circles, is how Libra will appear. Libra probably won't give us a list of numerical hate levels; that'd be too helpful. Instead, it'll probably just show a bunch of targeting circles over the mob and every party member, with the colour-intensity of those circles signifying how much hate each member has.

I agree with how not-useful Libra seems. but im actually kinda stoked for the magic burst bonus.. If you do endgame at all, seeing your sch nuke Fafhog and landing 2k+ MBs normally is really pleasing... i wonder how much exactly it increases with the bonus.. i want to see my sch droppin' 3K thunder IV's on Nid.. even if i get smashed into the ground a couple seconds later :D

Edited, Jun 18th 2010 12:49pm by xXEvokerXx

Everyone is mentioning staff swaps.

Who's to say they won't all be replaced by a single staff in the next 24 levels? Or at least, a staff for all casting and one for resting.

It'd not be that hard. Just a lot of m. acc and m. att on one weapon. Or a 'prism staff' or something.

I don't imagine scholar would be given the trait without any followup to make it useful. Perhaps the new staff WS will be a sort of nuke, and, barring that, Spirit Taker is always handy...

This is the direction I hope they are taking us, since the libra that we all know and love will not be available in this game. I've always thought that SCH should get a decoy type spell and a pax spell. It makes sense as we are tacticians on the battlefield. We should be orchestrating where our enemies attention will fall. The only way this ability will be useful is if we receive accompanying spells.

Like you sort of mentioned, the "one staff to rule them all" would have to have enough bonuses built in to make the old staff obsolete...and even with that said, it probably wouldn't top your Ice staff for nuking and, like you already mentioned, you'd still have to use your Dark staff for recovering MP. There is no surefire way of keeping your TP unless SE makes it that we don't lose TP from weapon swaps...which will never happen. That's way to broken/stupid. Imagine a WAR TPing with dual wielding then macroing in a g.axe for WS?

You're right. Having looked up what "tactics" actually means... how the hell would you make a mage that specialises in it? Tactician's just not a magical job. I suppose the enmity idea makes some sense, but that's about it. And we already have thieves to do that...

Actually, I think that it could be broken, if you have a sam TP'ing with the Soboro Sukehiro, and WS'ing in the Hagun. (but that's me thinking as a sam)

EDIT: edited for correction on a tag

re-edit: and for spelling...

Edited, Jun 28th 2010 11:10am by Vestrivan

Edited, Jun 28th 2010 11:10am by Vestrivan