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#1 Sep 15 2009 at 10:39 PM Rating: Good
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I'm a 46 SCH (my first back-line mage job), and was wondering: does increasing your cap on Sublimation work like Meditate, where you only have to pop on the gear when you first hit it, and can change back to what you were using, or do you have to constantly wear the gear to increase your cap on it? I've been using it, but recently, I've been wanting to increase my effectiveness at using sublimation.

Any and all help would be appreciated.
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#2 Sep 16 2009 at 4:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, it doesn't work that way.

The cap for Sublimation gets recalculated every tic, rather than once when Sublimation is first activated.

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The MP limit is 25% of your max HP (before applying "Converts HP -> MP gear"). The MP limit is calculated throughout the duration of the "charging" time. This means you CAN NOT equip HP+ gear for the activation, then switch back to normal gear for the charging time.
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#3Banggugyangu, Posted: Sep 16 2009 at 8:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is a prime example of someone who should have read the stickies and wiki before posting.
#4 Sep 16 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Banggugyangu wrote:
This is a prime example of someone who should have read the wiki before posting.

Fixed that for you. It states no where in the stickies this information other than the description of the ability. It does not list the mechanics of how it works.

tl;dr Stop being a jackass.
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#5Banggugyangu, Posted: Sep 16 2009 at 11:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I stated that, because 9 times outta 10, those who fail to read the wiki will also fail to read the stickies. Usually, the questions that receive a "read the stickies and wiki" response from most people are more quickly answered in the stickies.
#6 Sep 16 2009 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Banggugyangu wrote:
Tangent: why are people so afraid to slightly offend someone? Sure, my original post in this thread may have upset the OP, but he would have gotten over it. If he learned anything from the thread whatsoever, he'll probably read before he asks next time. Is anyone gonna emo-cut themselves because of anything said in here? Maybe. But if they do, they have more problems than needing to know whether or not to full-time idle their sublimation gear.


Because while the question in the OP could be considered a "shoulda read the stickies or wiki" answer at first look, but when you look at the stickies and the zam wiki the answer isn't there. The answer is on ffxiclopedia not here, so the post is valid, it has nothing to do with being scared of hurting someone's feeling by being a douche.
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#7 Sep 16 2009 at 3:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I never understand why people get so touchy over other people starting posts that are perhaps uneccessary due to the information being around somewhere else or for whatever other reason. Sure maybe he could have found out on his own but it's not hurting anyone to post.

If it really ****** you off that much then dont reply and just ignore it. By the way this isnt particularly aimed at Banggugyangu but just in general at people that complain about people's posts because "we already have a hundred of the same post".

Sorry if it messes up your perfect tidy forum but jesus get over yourself.

/endrant
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#8Banggugyangu, Posted: Sep 17 2009 at 7:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The problem is that in the past decade, we've developed 2 general standpoints in society.
#9 Sep 17 2009 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Banggugyangu wrote:
Stuff

You should have stopped when you just sounded like a person wanting to be an *** with a holier than thou ego.
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#10Banggugyangu, Posted: Sep 17 2009 at 10:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thank you for proving my point. Does baby-sitting pay well?
#11 Sep 18 2009 at 3:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Banggugyangu wrote:
The problem is that in the past decade, we've developed 2 general standpoints in society.

1: A "gimme-gimme" stand point where everyone wants everything handed to them. This ranges from everything from money *our absolutely rediculous welfare and civil judicial systems* to education *very minor, but the ask-first and do nothing to learn on your own mindset*.

If you really felt that was the problem with the OP, you wouldn't have said that he should be checking wiki for this information. Going to a web site to get this data is the very essence of wanting things just handed out to you. Going to wiki for the info is even worse than posting a question on a forum. With wiki, you can get your info right now. If you post a question to a forum, you have to at least exercise some patience in waiting for a response.

If you had told the OP to go run tests in-game to figure it out, then you would be consistent with what you said.
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#12 Sep 19 2009 at 12:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wait, wait, wait. Wait.

Wait.

Bang's now applying his unique brand of logic to social commentary as well? Do.. do we have to pay extra?
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RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

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MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#13 Sep 19 2009 at 2:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Going to a web site to get this data is the very essence of wanting things just handed out to you.

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Going to wiki for the info is even worse than posting a question on a forum. With wiki, you can get your info right now. If you post a question to a forum, you have to at least exercise some patience in waiting for a response.

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If you had told the OP to go run tests in-game to figure it out, then you would be consistent with what you said.

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Seriously though, what's with all the forum tough guys? I wonder what the emotional state of someone is that feels they have to constantly offend, and belittle strangers on a board. Not talking about Bang in particular, just abrasive posters in general. I understand flaming a troll, but the OP was considerate, had nice grammar, and all in all started a positive thread for the SCH forums.

The SCH board has been a little slow anyway, cut the OP some slack. Lemme guess, I'm an internet white knight now right? Is that what they call it?
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#14Banggugyangu, Posted: Sep 19 2009 at 8:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 1: I didn't state that this was the problem with the OP, rather that this trend, which has been prevalently growing lately, is the source of my frustration with questions that would be quickly answered with a small amount of effort put forth.
#15 Sep 19 2009 at 10:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Face it; FFXI may not be dying, but it's a very old game at this point. The playerbase's knowledge of the game, while far from complete, is quite extensive. As a result, the forums will naturally move away from discovery threads to things like:

"I finished my AF quests today! Yay!"

"What's your favourite job in xxx event and why?"

"Goodbye FFXI!"

and...

"Hi, I'm new this game/job/fight/random situation, I have a well-worded and humble request for information/opinions from the more experienced players on the forums. Appreciate any replies, thanks!"

As an experienced player, you have 3 options in response:

-Ignore it and move on. This is standard forum procedure.

-Answer their questions, offer your opinions, allow yourself some satisfaction for helping another player improve their game with your experiences. This is the nice, helpful thing to do.

-Maybe answer the OP's question if they're lucky, but be a condescending prick in the process, forgetting that once upon a time, you didn't know everything there was to know about FFXI, and the many friends/strangers/forum posters that helped you expand your knowledge to what it is today.

It's 2009. You can rest assured that the vast majority of posts on this and other FFXI sites are going to be pretty similar to this one until the servers shut down. If this somehow affronts your delicate sensibilities, I urge you to forego posting at all, instead of derailing these threads into a soapbox to espouse your unique and rather childish worldviews as they apply to FFXI. Honestly, your mastery of circular logic would be quite impressive, if it didn't make my brain hurt so much every time I read it.

To summarize:

The OP could've answered their own question by doing some research, yes; however, you could've not been a complete jackass by simply exercising some restraint and common courtesy.

Advantage: OP
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rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#16 Sep 21 2009 at 4:19 AM Rating: Good
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Instead of answering your question in a simple one line response and getting on with my life, I will blast you with about 10 paragrahs describing how stupid and lazy you are, with great detail. In fact, I will accuse you of being too lazy to do your own research on the topic in the very thread where you attempted to do research on the topic.

Oh, it looks like someone beat me to it!
#17Banggugyangu, Posted: Sep 21 2009 at 6:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No one in the entire thread did any single point that you accused me of doing. Nice try though.
#18 Sep 21 2009 at 9:50 PM Rating: Good
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I believe lolscholar was referring to the previous poster.

I've been meaning to post again about my thanks, but I've been kinda busy. I really didn't mean for this to be moved in this direction, but it does kinda prove that even well-meaning threads (I also hoped that this thread would help answer other sch's who have the same question, to reduce on the ppl growing resentful of the newbs) can turn into flame wars.

Thanks to svlyons for answering my question, btw.
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The wise warrior will fight until he can no longer win; while the foolish warrior will never stop fighting.

MouserRDM wrote:

People think Dark Knights are the emo-boys of FFXI.

They ain't got nothin' on us Blue Mages. We kill monsters, eat their souls, and we don't even use barbecue sauce. And we're still hungry.

We're bastards.
#19 Sep 22 2009 at 12:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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I believe lolscholar was referring to the previous poster.


By "previous poster," were you referring to me? Because when you consider that I was defending your right to post whatever topics you wanted to, that would make even less sense than:

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No one in the entire thread did any single point that you accused me of doing. Nice try though.


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I've been meaning to post again about my thanks, but I've been kinda busy. I really didn't mean for this to be moved in this direction, but it does kinda prove that even well-meaning threads (I also hoped that this thread would help answer other sch's who have the same question, to reduce on the ppl growing resentful of the newbs) can turn into flame wars.


Just because you started the thread doesn't mean it's your baby or something; once it's public it's ours, meaning everyone, and we'll do what we want with it; no need to act like this is anything out of the ordinary; welcome to the internet, etc.
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rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
#20 Sep 22 2009 at 12:36 PM Rating: Default
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I like how you "defend his right to post whatever topic he chooses" by denouncing my right to respond with a manner I see fit.


*edit* if lolscholar didn't aim that post at me, then I apologize, I misunderstood.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2009 3:37pm by Banggugyangu
#21 Sep 22 2009 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I like how you "defend his right to post whatever topic he chooses" by denouncing my right to respond with a manner I see fit.


Only half right here; I defend his right to post whatever topic he chooses because there was a distinct lack of jackassery present in his post. Rest assured, if he or anyone else starts subscribing to your particular brand of self-centered idiocy, they'll get tossed right in alongside you. Also, Q_Q more?
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rdmcandie wrote:
RDM can attain an almost static 50% reduction to recast time, SCH can over shoot this for a total of 60% reduction under Alacrity (provided you are wearing loafers and keeping dark weather on yourself)

rdmcandie wrote:
MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)
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