SCH being ignoredFollow

Doesn't a fully merited Stormsurge provide +7 STR from Firestorm, not 5?

(Voidstorm provides halved stat boosts, so 7 becomes 3.5, and the .5 is truncated to make +3 to all)

For the record, I don't 'believe' one way or the other on day/weather bonuses affecting accuracy; there's no proof either way, so I disregard it completely when presenting my arguments. You're the one who brought it up in the first place, not me. I invite you to quote the post where I supposedly made this statement; good luck finding it. (You won't, because it doesn't exist.)



Because using that Strategem for an extra defensive spell makes it that much easier for those 2H DDs to ride Hasso fulltime, which will increase the kill speed much more than Enspells on 2H weapons will. Also, if you're at bird camp, fulltime Hasso DDs will run out of mobs unless you pull Wivres; would you rather give them Enspellga and lose the chain to Demoralizing Roar, or have that Strategem ready for Accession + Erase? I think the choice is rather obvious.



Right, because Haste gives exponentially increasing returns, while Enspells give decreasing returns as weapon delay rises. Last I checked, Hasso grants a Haste effect on weapon delay; every time they drop it for Seigan, their DoT decreases noticeably. As such, there is no reason for them to ever drop Hasso with a SCH in the party; if they do, and you're spending charges on Enspells instead of defensive buffs, your priorities are wrong. Just because we don't have access to Haste doesn't mean that our spells can't increase your DD's Haste.

That being said, if you can maintain a fulltime Hasso party with charges to spare, go for the Enspells; however, in my personal experience, all it takes is one DD who is incompetent/overpowered/suicidal (or a combination of the three, we've all seen it.) to throw this out the window. No matter how good you are, this is generally a variable that is beyond your control; pragmatism dictates that you expect the worst and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Edited, Sep 24th 2009 3:53pm by LyltiaofLakshmi

Well its not firestorm + enblizzard vs nothing + enblizzard. Its firestorm + enblizzard vs voidstorm + enblizzard. Assuming storm surge is fully merited.

Firestorm +7 STR + Enspell (can SCH hit 300 skill?)
vs
Voidstorm 3 STR 3 DEX + Enspell

So you loose 4 STR but gain 3 DEX and don't run the chance of shooting your enspells in the foot.

4 STR = 1.0 fSTR and 2 attack, but 3 DEX is 1.5 accuracy so the loss of the fSTR isn't as bad as you would think.

hehe those ideas seem nice but from the power of them they would have to be merit abilites (SE are harsh).

and for the no refresh and no haste i was actually invited to a merit party once /shocked and we were knoking out around 20k/hr was first time healing a merit party and i loved it.

so i do agree the no refresh and no haste can make people shun sch alot but from the schs perspective with af head (i dont have af2 body yet ppl lotting when they wont use it in old ls /sigh)they dont have to rest much as /rdm with phalanx and stoneskin up in merit pt i didnt rest once in about 1hr when we disbanded cos was getting late for JPs (and yes it was a JP pt as well double /shocked)