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#1 Apr 02 2009 at 3:22 AM Rating: Good
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I recently did some math crunching for my gear and now want to overhaul my Nukeing set.
I'm mostly asking because the two sets i got in mind seem to differ greatly depending on which target i chose. (INT heavy for puddings, MAB heavy for roaches)
But i want a more general purpose nukeing set.

Mithra SCH/RDM (Base INT 70 no merits)
Currently i use this set.
But i want to switch to this one.
I got full Elemental/Enfeebling Merits as well as full Relic/Yigit/Cobra set if there is stuff i should switch around.
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#2 Apr 02 2009 at 4:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Assuming no other effects than HQ staves, you would end up comparing INT+14 (Errant Houppelande + Scholar's Mortarboard) and MAB+7 (Yigit Turban + Yigit Gomlek). According to the spell dmg formula, it is a comparison of these two expressions (assuming pre-inflection point and disregarding flooring):

INT+14: (V + 2 * INT + 28) * 1.15 * MAB
MAB+7: (V + 2 * INT) * 1.15 * (MAB + 0.07)

Which boils down to which of these two terms yields larger numbers:

INT+14: (V + 2 * INT + 28) * MAB
MAB+7: (V + 2 * INT) * (MAB + 0.07)

For your purposes, let INT = 70 + 39 = 109 (Aquilo's Staff excluded) and MAB = 1.20 + 0.05 + 0.02 + 0.02 = 1.29.

INT+14: (V + 2 * 109 + 28) * 1.29 = (V + 246) * 1.29 = 1.29 * V + 317.34
MAB+7: (V + 2 * 109) * (1.29 + 0.07) = (V + 218) * 1.36 = 1.36 * V + 296.48

Thus, any spell that provides V > 298 will hit harder in Yigit gear. Which is true for all tier IV nukes. MAB+7 is superior to INT+14 (I think I'm telling you no news; why did I crunch numbers, at all?), if your resist rates are sufficiently low.

I don't know how your resist rates in Yigit gear are, since I'm a Houppelande + Mortarboard nuker, but I'd assume it's a bit from capped. So, as a "more general purpose" set, I'd suggest going with the Houppelande + Mortarboard build. You trade a little damage (20, maybe?) for a chunk of MACC, provided by INT+14. I'd go with the MACC for everyday nuking.
#3 Apr 02 2009 at 9:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not taking magic accuracy into account and just changing the 2 options then on IVs vs. puddings Yigit Head/Body > Errant Body/AF Hat by about 6~10 damage. That being said You'd still want Errant Body/AF Hat for Helix spells.
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#4 Apr 02 2009 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the help i already thought that INT would win on Puddings but, i was still skeptic that INT>MAB in that case.

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#5 Apr 02 2009 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
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keep in mind that AF hat gets upgraded for 1 more INT, same w/ mahatma body if you can afford it.
#6 Apr 02 2009 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd have to agree with the 2nd option as well.
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#7 Apr 02 2009 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Depending on what you are fighting really, but as Naobi and Bangy said...number 2.

Personally I use Mortarboard +1 and Mahatma/Morgana's for Nuking. Generally MAB for Tier4, INT for Tier3. Yigit Hat may have a slight advantage over Mortarboard for puddings, but the added few damage would probably be negated by the fact that you are getting 1mp/tick onto sublimation as you nuke(unless your macros have the delay perfectly set for the right midcast gear change). Errant generally trumps Yigit body as well, Macc from the INT is a bonus.
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