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#1 May 21 2009 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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I'm just curious...

Every time I offer to join anything as DNC I get ignored OR asked to come on a different job. So, what exactly is the point of pimping out DNC? EVA is broken in ballista, so that's out of the question. Sushi>Eva

Limbus is "ok" to have a DNC but we don't serve a real purpose there. Dynamis is hectic as **** and most of the time the mob dies after getting only one attack round in.

Even in campaign my PLD can do better than DNC.

So I'm curious to what events or anything do you guys use DNC for? The only thing I can see is for soloing. But if I wannted to poke a mob to death I'd do it on RDM
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#2 May 21 2009 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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Great question. I would love to see SE's answer to it. They had a chance to make dancer endgame friendly with tier 2 merits. Instead they gave a bunch of weird merits that seemed to suggest that they want Dancer to solo things.

In my linkshell, my dancer is used to hold one of the sharks JoL spawns. That's pretty much it. :/
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#3 May 22 2009 at 12:50 AM Rating: Good
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I use it for solo and small group stuff when I can, and occasionally for merits. I would love to be able to use it for more than that but when it comes to endgame events it's usefulness drops way down.
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#4 May 22 2009 at 1:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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I use my DNC for solo, farming, dynamis, limbus, merit (even though I'm done with merits for now), and campaign. That basically covers everything that I am doing in game right now. The only thing I wouldn't ever again use DNC for is nyzul since my rng is much more useful there.

And yes, I do have 75 rdm...but DNC is much more fun/challenging to use. Plus...I really hate being a mage in this game...just not my cup of tea >.>
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#5 May 22 2009 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
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dnc can be useful for just about anything endgame if you have a group of people willing to try some thing new I have used it in just about all events sky ,limbu, assult ,nysul ilse, dynamis and campagian with prety good succes.
but i think the main thing for dnc is soloing if you are prepared and good at it you can solo almost anything.

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Edited, May 22nd 2009 7:40am by jespin
#6 May 22 2009 at 4:22 AM Rating: Good
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I use it for solo and small group stuff when I can, and occasionally for merits. I would love to be able to use it for more than that but when it comes to endgame events it's usefulness drops way down.

What exactly is "small group stuff"?
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#7 May 22 2009 at 5:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dinking around solo mostly so far. I could see using it for small group/duo type stuff, or perhaps merits and that sort of level event. Hard to justify for much past that, considering other jobs available.
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#8 May 22 2009 at 6:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I hate to say this, but I too feel the same way.
DNC is fun to play, good concept with TP -> cures.
I just dont feel theres much use for a DNC endgame.

I think theres a hirachy to usefullness endgame, and DNC is def. one of the jobs at the far bottom.

if you have rdm,pld,brd,cor,blm,sam,blu,whm ect all of those are much better suited for endgame events than your DNC will be.

even jobs like thief,dragons with their feint+angon and Darkknights SE+2hour, its not everything they ll rule but they have their "place" where they shine. A job like DNC just doesnt really do much of anything endgame better than other jobs or on equal levels.

What does a DNC do against Kirin? <.< how many here could realistically bring themselfs to go as DNC to something like that? Where does this stop? could you do dynamis? I personally wouldnt.. ect ect ect. DNC endgame prospects are very low and few.

DNC does do soloing well.. I guess you could pimp it out to be a duo farming buddy or something.
#9 May 22 2009 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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Personnally my DNC see action is most stuff.

Sky: Support role, with back up healer duty on everytihg but Kirin.
Nyzul: Main stunner of my static, with DD and emergency healing (Usually ride this full time on saber dance)
Merit: DD and support, emergency healing (I never main heal/back up heal these, DRG/WHM/RDM usually dont have any problems)
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Limbus: Stunner, support, DD, healer. Have yet to see any Ultima action though.

I usually try to balance my play time with both PLD and DNC in fact, as my LS got a good supply of PLD, getting to use other jobs is not a rarity.
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#10 May 22 2009 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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One of the main problems with DNC IMO is the discrepancy between a fully-merited pimped out DNC and your average DNC. Someone said they go to Limbus/Nyzul and function as main stunner, well, without relic body, our stun sucks. Without combat merits, full Haste Samba, Saber Dance, and some decent gear, we pretty much fail at DD. Without Fan Dance and a full EVA set we suck at tanking. Without NFR and RF merits, our TP generally can't keep up to be a main healer.

Anyway, you get the idea. I do all my merits and events on other jobs, hoping one day to acquire enough gear/merits that I can justify actually bringing my DNC to stuff. For the time being, any of my other jobs tend to be more valuable. I've only been asked to come as DNC to an event ONCE, and it was a pick-up Nyzul that already had too many DDs.

We are great at solo, but I can't think of any reason to take my DNC/NIN out when my NIN/DNC is much better geared and merited (for now at least).
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#11 May 22 2009 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I can fit it into anything really but I think its a sin in dynamis, I'd rather go Bard even though I hate it, DNC in dynamis isn't for cures its for voking stones but DNC is just straight out retarted for dynamis. Other endgame I can easily justify though DEBUFFS! DNC/THF SA or TA + Step of your choice to Lv.5 =30% def/eva/magic resistance down on a mob. If you Have Etoile Casaque and the mob isn't stun resistant grats you've got another job to do.

DNC is great in sky for farming pop items. Despot can be duoed with a ninja same with that huge golem whats his face. As far as Limbus goes I've duoed and trioed it exquisitly as DNC with a THF and sometimes a NIN, and I've been asked to come DNC to omega over my Bard because we only had 1 WHM that day. I did good and was never asked to change job again. Its not really that dancer isn't ment for endgame its that some dancers don't know how to preform in endgame.

I also hate to say this but if your PLD is doing better than you DNC in campaigne then either you have an incredibly pimped PLD with Homan or something or your just not playing Campaigne DNC right. Or maybe your just fighting orcs. IDK But when I'm on DNC and the bosses start spamming 1k dmg the only people left standing are the DNC's and the NPC's.
#12 May 22 2009 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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My DNC in dynamis works great. We kill every mob pretty fast and with a stun on every mob most of them dont even 2-hr(granted I do have my relic body). Even the NMs get stunned by violent flourish. I go /sam and ws every few mobs if i can get it off in time.

I still go BLM to the outlands dynamis so not sure how well DNC would work there though.

Campaign is just awsome. I usually grab 2 mobs, yagudo or quadav,(dont like orcs) and solo them for as long as i can before others come "help" me out. Doesnt matter the sub. Even /blm works. Though i do have fan dance and evasion gear.
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#13 May 22 2009 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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DNC is awesome in dynamis when there is a lack of either healers or refreshers. Drain Samba III takes care of most AoE damage, and your keeping on top of cures makes life for a WHM without refresh infinitely easier. About the only thing you might have trouble with is stuff like recovering from a bad mijin gakure where a good curaga IV or something usually mops things up. I keep trying to come to dynamis on other jobs and they ask me to go change to DNC because DNC just works so well in that particular activity. DDs argue over who gets to be in my party because when things go bad mine is usually the only one left standing, or the last to go down.

Other than dynamis I don't really use it for much. I campaign on DRG, do sky and HNMs and such on NIN or RNG, meriting is usually on DRG. Not much left for DNC in there. I really enjoyed leveling it to 75, because learning a new job that was so completely different from any other I'd ever played before was a new and interesting challenge in a game that's pretty well full of "been there done that". But after I ran out of levels to get, the novelty sort of wore off. There's a lot of things i'd rather take as NIN/DRK or RNG and leave healing to WHMs and RDMs rather than trying to keep on top of it on DNC. I may get flamed for saying it, but DNC can do a lot of things, and doesn't get as much credit as it should, however sometimes it's best to come on another job and let more traditional healers take the stage.
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#14 May 22 2009 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
To the OP's question i'd answer I use Dancer to have fun, though not so much these days with work taking up the better portion of my day and having to work while my ls is raiding which makes my boss a massive douche.

When I am able to bring dancer out I use it a variety of things based on the situation and event.

Campaign, when I have time I bring dancer to campaign easy merits and it's fun when everyone examines me.

NM camps, Simurgh is a ***** to dancer and a dancer can easily keep a party healed for the duration of the fight. The same can be said for many other NM's/hnm's it's all in your reaction times. Competition can get hilarious when they realize your party is not going to wipe with a dancer healer.

Einherjar again Sitational but let the whitemage heal during the lesser mob fights and let the dancer cut loose during the boss fight the whitemage can literally focus on Esuna and Erase while the dancer keeps his/her party alive.

Merit/xp parties any camp will do, any prey will do I've main healed many parties of all setups except manaburn as dancer. You can bring a rdm but they're better off bringing a sword because it will be more useful for the bulk of the time.

The only events I won't bring dancer to are Nyzul, Salvage, Sky, and Dynamis. Not that Dancer would not excell, but because the pace is so fast I feel my dancer though exceptionally equipped is simply outclassed or I feel lost in the speed of the event.
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#15 May 22 2009 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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Mainly use DNC to merit with friends. I sometimes use it for LS events when we're doing good.
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#16 May 22 2009 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, and fetch quests.

Edited, May 22nd 2009 11:50pm by Almalexia
#17 May 24 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Limbus; it's great for low-man runs, or full ones if healers are better on other jobs. Never use it for Omega/Ultima.

Dynamis; If your dynamis doesn't have too many people in it, DNC can be quite good. Waltzes are powerful cures, but sambas are not really worth using.

Nyzul Isle; a great healer here, in my experience. Might struggel with high damage AoEs. Violent Flourish usually works a treat.

Not really used it elsewhere... mostly because I don't do anything else.

I here it's good for Moblin Maze Mongers.
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