Fan dance / Saber DanceFollow

they overwrite each other!

I have had both of them for a while now and was gonna do a campaign and discovered that they dont stack >.>;

So you're saying you would rather have higher double attack rate and damage reduction AND no sambas OR waltzes? o.O








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I keep reading so many complaints of why people are dissapointed in Fan Dance and Saber Dance. I'm having more fun and I feel I have been made better with such useful tools. Here are some of my experiences that make me love these merits even more.

Fan Dance:
Took a 0 dmg Vorpal Blade to the face from PLD Sea Torque NM that previously 1 shoted PLD tank. Have a surplus of TP? Feel like cure bombing and end up tanking? NO PROBLEM BUDDY!!! Campaign boss' spamming 1.5k dmg TP moves? Oh look only the DNC's and NPC's are left standing. In general this move allows me to sidestep my squishyness.


Saber Dance:
For those of you with 4-digit syndrome, Saber Dance+Dancing Edge=Wow.
Ripping hate away from a Ninja, Dark Knight, Samurai, and Warrior, and not even noticing do to your shadows and evasion. You'll be feeling awfully cheeky at that point. You can even pretend your curing by imitating an aoe Blood Weapon by adding it with Drain Samba, but don't worry your the one with hate anyways. Saber Dance is just an all around great way to increase your TP gain, DoT, and (cough*epeen*cough) WS's.


To those of you dissapointed that you can't use both dances simultaniously or are terrified of being crippled by temporarily loosing your Waltzs or Sambas, they both more than make up for the loss. I emplore you to at least give them a try. You can simply cancel the effect if you need acess to your watlz or samba abilities, and if you really don't like them you can always lower them.

It wasnt really a complaint. Just more of an observation that i thought worth shareing. If the rare circumstance were to happen that you needed both, now you know you cant.

@ KaishenRamuh - I have never had trouble in campaign capping my exp. Also if i were to die to an NM then i lose exp, fan dance keeps me up and going. I even start useing Cyclone for the magic damage, after i've capped my other dmg.

mostly though Fan dance really shines in a duo with a sch. Stoneskin + phalanx. Or straight blink tanking with stoneskin back up, whilst Saber danceing.

Usually in high pressure situations you don't want to have saber dance up - however it's excellent for building tp at the start of a fight, soloing, and during meripos if you have a competent healer. Usually if I need hp while using Saber I just pop up Drain Samba III - with a haste build and /nin sub you're attacking so much your hp climbs back up rather quickly.

Edited, Mar 2nd 2009 3:39pm by ShibayamaG

That's where you provoke a second mob!

I think the more important message isnt "Fan dance overwrites Saber dance" but more "Fan dance will remove your current samba". I for one always thought I'd at least be able to keep the one i put up before FD, but nope it gets taken off. IMO that is more worthy of a thread than this.

Thats cuz it stays at (i think 5%?) until the ability times out. It's not 9 hits then it wears off.

Hmm let's see, just from eyeball when I was tanking Shadowhand + 9 orcs that I accidently aggroed..yeah it doesn't keep track of each monster, just a % in general even in the spam of Shadowhand's weapon skills (all of which did 20-110 dmg)+ the attacks of 9 orcs I never dropped to orange or red for a solid minute if I didn't waltz.

Last night I did dagger WSNM with a BST friend, he had a VT scorpion helping, in my past experience i knew there was no way i was taking hate off that thing without /war. But i popped Fan Dance and did an animated flourish just to be sure i had higher hate when his pet dies.

To my amazement every single time i used animated flourish it would turn to me for a few hits, off a VT scorpion! It really felt like Fan Dance made my minivoke into a full power voke with that +emnity.

Very interesting to find out, thought I'd share in case it wasnt discussed.

I was gona try but after sharing hate with the scorpion, let me tell you I was glad he was taking the heat off me quickly lol. Shadows would drop almost instantly even in my evasion build.

But, if you have a BST friend have him 2 hour a VT scorpion an you can duo it no problem, just be sure to do what i did, fan dance and Animated Flourish it every time it's up to give the pet a break.

We ended the fight with his VT scorp at 50%, and we were sharing hate 50/50, so if i just let it tank it woulda been close.

Edited, Mar 17th 2009 6:10pm by RattyBatty