dnc dont get "attack 2 or 3 times" weapons T_TFollow

I was bored and was thinking that dnc is one of the only jobs in the game, that its main weapon being dagger, there is no availability for a multi-hit weapon. I know we have joyeuse but our main is dagger and we have none. I know the mythic has it but is there any job in the game that doesnt have a multi-hit weapon that IS thier highest skill weapon?


Just bugs me a little that we are TP based and no fun multi-hit weapons T_T

But PUP has Hope Staff! lulz.

Well, I dunno if it's a LOT better... Joyeuse already does DA at nearly a 50% rate, for instance... it also wouldn't prevent usage of Waltzes >_>

And Terpsichore isn't really a 2-3x attack weapon, given that the only way to activate double attack is to continuously use Pyhrric Kleos at 300% tp, which means we basically can't do anything else with our TP.

Don't know why people frown at Terpsichore's double attack effect so much. No job is as likely to have 300% TP stored at any one time than DNC. Not because we get it faster, but because we tend to hoard it. If you spend all your TP in exchange for damage, you then get it back faster thanks to the double attack effect for the next 2 minutes; sounds like a good deal to me.

I mean, I'm nowhere near owning that weapon, but out of all Nyzul weapons, it probably is one of the best one. The Step accuracy and 3 Finishing Move per step is pretty awesome, of course.

Actually, PUP does get access to M.Kris. Dagger is PUP's second highest skill (C- as opposed to C for H2H). However, PUP wouldn't ever want to use M.Kris because PUP is a DoT job - building TP with a weak but fast weapon just to use crappy dagger WS is foolish. Makes sense for a COR getting TP with M.Kris to use Slug, or a DNC who would want to gain TP quickly to use dances.

That being said, PUP does get a multihit weapon in one way... If you view it as automaton being PUP's real "main weapon", Coiler is an automaton attachment that gives the automaton double attack - the rate of which is greatly improved with multiple Thunder Maneuvers active (up to about a 40% proc rate).

PUP and COR are my two main jobs, and honestly using Coiler with the ranger automaton and working on spamming Armor Piercer WS as often as possible feels really similar to me to the common COR strategy of building TP with M.Kris or Joyeuse and letting a Slug Shot fly.

By the way, most COR prefer Joyeuse to M.Kris even though COR has higher dagger skill than sword skill. Better damage, and using Suppanomimi helps sword skill. For DNC though, yeah... D sword skill hurts a bit.

Here we go again, i'm stopping here too.

Unfortunately, DNC cannot use it.

KC RNG is one of the DD job that can use KC to significantly boost their damage other than DRK. Give haste gear and buff, eat sushi, altogether with accuracy bonus IV, you'll see things dead in 15-18 seconds.

I wouldn't even brag about having a Terpsichore.

dnc and sam (lol 2hr then use ws, makes other ws high chance of da'ing? idk if this is true if it is nice)
are the two jobs who can freely benefit off the 300 tp double attack thing if i'm correct... dnc and sam are both low lvl of mine, but it seems like most dnc don't spam ws like other melees :o, and + w/ reverse flourish merits / no foot rise or whatever, you can ws > get tp back instantly? :P

lol and you should feel lucky ; ; Mnk (idk about pup yet but i assume the same, both h2h) 300 tp gets double attack but the full round counts as 1 swing, so you can only get 3 hits w/o KA... usually double attack has a chance of firing off both attacks >_> 4 hits w/o KA >_>... guess this is SE saying mnks use footwork more^^?

lol sorry for going off dnc for a bit >_>... joy toy is still good :#

Yeah 1 step is so pro >_> Makes it the best!

Who needs Yagrush? Which makes all spells have the Divine Veil effect without Divine Seal being active. Nope..not game breaking at all.

"balmungs"? Hehe I don't think there is a mythic with that name..maybe you mean Burtgang?

Edited, Mar 11th 2009 6:51am by QueenSheila

Actually, considering these weapons are more to enhance your JOB more so than be another overpowered weapon+1, Terpischore is actually a very good dagger for DNC, the additional step you gain, if you were smart and have capped out Reverse Flourish would require less stepping to gain TP (if that's your sole reason for using steps) you would also get to step, use a flourish, step, reverse flourish because you'll be put at 5 steps even with only 20TP used.

So it may not be an 'omfg this will revolutionize DNCs in parties!' but it does actually have a great benefit when you look at it in the long run.

In no way am I saying that the Terpsichore is a bad weapon. I was just saying that the additional Finishing Move return isn't as significant as MasterUrat is making it out to be. Each weapon enhances a certain aspect of the job's abilities, and while the Terpsichore's isn't bad, it's in no way the 2nd best Mythic in the game.

Blu would never get the Joyeuse anyway, since it's a Sword type that we don't have access to (Blu get broadswords, scimitars, falchions, etc, not rapiers or fleurets). We should though have access to the Ridill given that it is a falchion type sword, and while we do have an assortment of good swords at 75, a double to triple hitting sword with 40 dmg is hard to pass up by any means.

Pup wouldn't have the super jailer wep if it followed that rule.

Note that no job with an A weapon is given access to Ridill, WAR is closest with a B in sword.
Some Ridill WARs will mainhand a perdu hanger and spam vorpal blade for some impressive damage.
BLUs can already spam spells like a krakenRNG can sidewinders, cap gear haste at 25%, and do reasonably good melee damage. If we could do spam sword WS on top of all that, who the hell would level a different melee job? SE tries to shy away from 1 man wrecking crews, and we walk a fine line as is.

That aside, IT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWESOME.