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#1 Mar 19 2008 at 12:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm fairly new to DNC, about to go onto Yuhtunga and I was curious what DNCs around this level use for a subjob.

I was looking at NIN or SAM but do these have good enough benefits at these levels?

Thanks in advance. =]

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#2 Mar 19 2008 at 1:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I use /COR around this level. Hunter's Roll gives really nice accuracy benefits (an average of +14 or +15 accuracy) to the entire party, as long as you don't double up on a Lucky or anything 6 or higher. This frees me up to eat jerky or mithkabobs and do some decent damage.
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It seems that most DNCs jump onto the /NIN bandwagon as soon as they hit 20. Dual wield won't help with TP gain, but it will help your damage per second, and since you shouldn't be using weaponskills at that level, that's all the damage you get. You'll also get shadows at 24, which will help if you pull hate with curing waltz.

Another decent option, if you have it leveled already, is to go /RNG up until level 30. You'll get the accuracy bonus job trait, which will give you a constant +10 to your accuracy and ranged accuracy. But it seems like /COR might be a better option for ACC if you have it leveled, since you'll get more ACC, and it will aid your party as well.

Yet another option, if you have it leveled, is to go /DRG. This will give you access to Jump, which is free damage and TP every 90 seconds.

SAM makes a great sub later, but you don't get much useful out of it until DNC60/SAM30 with meditate. Store TP is nice, but it's hardly noticeable with SAM as a sub.

Once you hit 30, you get two more decent options. Subbing THF will give you Sneak Attack, which stacks with your steps, so you can guarantee a step will land every 60 seconds (or get a hit for decent damage if you prefer). Subbing WAR will give you access to berserk, which will help if you consistently hit for 0 (though you should look into some new daggers if this is the case).

Edited, Mar 19th 2008 6:43am by KaishenRamuh
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#4 Mar 19 2008 at 2:44 AM Rating: Good
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I'm just starting off as well, leveling DNC as a sub for my SAM. I'm lvl 9, and I use /WAR and Hand to Hand.

Am I way off base doing that?
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#5Theonehio, Posted: Mar 19 2008 at 3:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The only subjobs that work with DNC:
#6 Mar 19 2008 at 3:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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The Duodenum of Doom wrote:
I'm just starting off as well, leveling DNC as a sub for my SAM. I'm lvl 9, and I use /WAR and Hand to Hand.

Am I way off base doing that?

That would be correct. Mnk sub, even if your monk is only level one, will be your best sub at this level if you're using h2h. With mnk sub, even at level one, you get martial arts job trait, which will drop about 80 off your h2h delay.
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Veggeto wrote:
The Duodenum of Doom wrote:
I'm just starting off as well, leveling DNC as a sub for my SAM. I'm lvl 9, and I use /WAR and Hand to Hand.

Am I way off base doing that?

That would be correct. Mnk sub, even if your monk is only level one, will be your best sub at this level if you're using h2h. With mnk sub, even at level one, you get martial arts job trait, which will drop about 80 off your h2h delay.


Was thinking about doing that. Honestly just forgot to switch last time I was in town Smiley: clown
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#8 Mar 19 2008 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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Subjobs that you will -not- get benefits from in the case of DNC:

PUP
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SCH
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and since you're in the 20s, you'll likely have swapped to Daggers (the highest ranking weapon to DNC) so you'll sub NIN to avoid any BS the community would inevitably give you for not subbing it.


Since we're talking about low level (30 or lower), both Drg and Blu do benefit you in different ways. If you are soloing in the Past, you can use /blu. Cocoon + Sigil Refresh is a very nice soloing tool. Once you hit 20, /drg gives atk+10 and Jump (a free TP gaining attack every 90 seconds). At level 30 you can wear a Wyvern Earring for 5% haste (though it's questionable if that's better than /war's Berserk). /Rng is good at level 20-29 for the +10 to accuracy.


Not to start a subjob argument, but if you aren't tanking, /War is probably your best subjob from 30-60. Berserk is going to yield better results than Dual Wield. Especially once you start using Sushi. Berserk and Double attack will probably be better than /nin's enhanced dual wield at level 50. The only time /nin really makes sense is 70+ when you can offhand a Joyeuse.

The real benefit of /nin is the ability to help tank. With Animated Flourish and the natural enmity of Waltzes, you can hold hate pretty well. However, there's little reason for that if you already have 1 or 2 dedicated tanks.
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#9 Mar 19 2008 at 11:03 AM Rating: Default
I've tinkered with a few subjobs but so far /nin has worked best for me personally.
#10 Mar 19 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Default
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i personally used nin from the dunes out.... post 60, there have been a few points where i have not had to heal or tank enough to warrant /nin, but i spent a lot of the 1st 50 levels tanking. my advice.....finish leveling your bard first, and merit dagger skill. it will save you millions in gear and sushi costs on the way up. cuz nobody is saying it much here in these forums...( foolish pride) but dancers have extremely weak damage, and acc up till dancing edge.
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The ChaosRook of Doom wrote:

Not to start a subjob argument, but if you aren't tanking, /War is probably your best subjob from 30-60. Berserk is going to yield better results than Dual Wield. Especially once you start using Sushi.


Better results for what? I can see the merits of trying to DD as DNC once you are 60+ and have gear/weapon skills/flourishes that can help you be a decent DD. But I'm not sure I'd see that much benefit from Berserk for DNC in this level range. Double attack is amazing though.
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#12 Mar 19 2008 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
KaishenRamuh wrote:
The ChaosRook of Doom wrote:

Not to start a subjob argument, but if you aren't tanking, /War is probably your best subjob from 30-60. Berserk is going to yield better results than Dual Wield. Especially once you start using Sushi.


Better results for what? I can see the merits of trying to DD as DNC once you are 60+ and have gear/weapon skills/flourishes that can help you be a decent DD. But I'm not sure I'd see that much benefit from Berserk for DNC in this level range. Double attack is amazing though.


You hit the mob, you do damage. Berserk helps you increase that damage. Berserk increases your DoT by ~25% when it's active. It can be active 60% of the time, which results in approximately a 15% increase to DoT. Dual Wield provides a 10% increase with a very small increase to TP rate (~6%). Since you are not using your TP for WS's, that extra TP won't increase your damage at all. And unless you are usually low on TP, it won't really increase your utility as a Support job.
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#13 Mar 23 2008 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
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1-14: I went DNC/PUP, because you can't beat /PUP for soloing at those levels.

15-19: I went DNC/MNK, using Hand-to-Hand.

20-29: I went DNC/RNG, for Accuracy Bonus.
I didn't think about /COR for Hunter's Roll, but it's actually an awesome idea, and I /slapped myself for not having thought about it when I read up on it.
I also soloed a bit as DNC/NIN after level 24.

Now, I'm 57, so I can't speak for 60+; but I think I'll sub SAM at 60.

But the point of this post is to advocate the use of the Dragoon subjob from level 30 to level 59.

I've always liked /DRG at levels 30-49 for jobs that don't have a native Attack Bonus (which /DRG gives at 30) and that can benefit from the Wyvern Earring.
The /DRG subjob isn't as powerful as /WAR in terms of damage, because nothing beats Berserk; but in terms of TP gain, it's awesome. Jump is very useful, and 5% Haste from the earring is nothing to underestimate, especially with paired with more Haste gear.
SAM/DRG is the ultimate TP machine, with Jump to fill in the gaps. MNK/DRG with Fuma Kyahan, Brown Belt and Wyvern Earring has 16% Haste at level 40, and is a beautiful thing to see, especially with the Haste spell from a WHM. Both jobs gain 16 Attack from Attack Bonus and a Wyvern Mantle, which helps compensate for the lack of Berserk.

I do not see Dancer as a damage dealer, especially before level 62 and Dancing Edge. I see Dancer as a healer and support, with damage as a secondary function. So, I'm not trying to maximize damage - I'm trying to maximize TP gain.
For TP gain, /WAR doesn't do anything before Double Attack. /NIN doesn't do much since Dual Wield reduces your TP gain. At those levels, /DRG is pretty much the best sub there is. I could have gone /SAM for Store TP, but /SAM doesn't offer anything else (apart from Third Eye, which is nice but not great) until 60, whereas you still have 16 more attack from /DRG, and I like jumping anyway. ^^
And Dancer, using a single-handed weapon, can also use the Wyvern Targe for 1% more haste - not game-breaking, but not bad.

So, I went 30-49 as DNC/DRG with a Wyvern Earring, Wyvern Targe and Wyvern Mantle. I liked it. I liked the feeling of 6% Haste with a low-delay dagger, especially when paired with Haste Samba after 45. Stab, stab, stab, stab.

Then I wanted to sub WAR after 50, for Double Attack, but then there was the update, and lo and behold, SE gave Dancer the Rapparee Harness.

Holy Cow.

I've never really understood the reasons for a haste build for THF, who are mostly limited by the timers on SA and TA anyway, so I had disregarded the Rapparee Harness as a fun, but secondary, equipment piece.
But for Dancer ?
This is the best thing since sliced bread, and I'm not sure about sliced bread.
Haste for Dancer is huge!
I had to have it. Fortunately, some LS friends wanted a JSE50 too, so we formed a small party and went on a rampage in Phomiuna Aqueducts. We came out with 4 subligars. Rapparee Harness was mine!

With the Swift Belt, that makes 8% haste at level 50.
With /DRG, that makes 14% haste at level 50.
Plus Haste Samba. And maybe Haste and/or March.

So, ***** /WAR and Double Attack. I remained /DRG, and have been very happy with it until now.
Equipping a Crow Hose (instead of the nice, but over-worn, Republic Subligar, or my trusty, but ugly, Magna Chausses) at level 50 has allowed me to waltz a lot more without pulling hate. Dancer's Tiara helped a lot too. (The -enmity on the DNC AF is a real blessing.) And so, I've been solo healing colibri parties since 54.

My latest party was DNC, BRD, COR, NIN, WAR, MNK. You read that right, no mage. The BRD was /NIN and pulling, so there wasn't a single MP in the party. We made very close to 10k/hour.
Yes, having both a COR and a BRD is awesome, and helped a lot, but still, I wouldn't have been able to pull off solo healing without my haste build.

(Don't get me wrong, I'm a WHM first and foremost, and I love mages, but there's something delicious, a taste of forbidden, in setting up a 6-melee party and seeing it work so well.)

At 60, I don't think any subjob outperforms /SAM in terms of TP gain.
So, I'll put back the earring, targe and mantle into the mog locker.
This will be fun too, especially with Dancing Edge arriving soon, but still, I'm sure I'll regret the days of DNC/DRG and the almighty Fast Stabs.
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#14 Mar 23 2008 at 10:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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The ChaosRook of Doom wrote:
Once you hit 20, /drg gives atk+10 and Jump (a free TP gaining attack every 90 seconds). At level 30 you can wear a Wyvern Earring for 5% haste (though it's questionable if that's better than /war's Berserk).


Don't forget Wyvern Targe if you can get ahold of one, only 1% haste, but since you cant' dual daggers as /drg it helps a bit.
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Depending on the tank in the party, I'm using nin or drg as subjob from 30 (.
if the tank can do a good job (a war/mnk with Ga for example), I will sub drg and enjoy my +16atk + 6% haste with jump (minus bonues of the offhand dagger).

if the tank is a nin (or a shared hate still party), I will sub nin and help tanking.
Some people would argue that you can sub/war and be the main tank yourself, doesnt seem like a bad idea actually, anything can tank mandy anyway (and if you don't do gob before 30-31, gob will be ok as well)
Once in Garlaig, /nin all the way for me, since tanks start to take more damage, meaning less hate for them and more for me healing them. Every hit a dancer blinks/evades is that much mp/tp whatever saved to the whole team.
#16 Mar 24 2008 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
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i believe i subbed mnk up until about lvl 25, i switched to nin then and did alot of pulling for my pt's. of course shadows help alot for that. i didnt enjoy it tho. i never have been a fan of /nin and its mostly just situational. i kinda wish i would of lvld THF to sub until i hit 60. just for the extra crit hits for TP gain. and i agree DNC is NOT a DD. ive been parsing my fights recently (currently lvl 66 subbing SAM) i always have the lowest dmg dealt, even with decent gear. and even when theres a WHM in the pt, i still cure more than them. or at least equal to them. i suppose it really just depends on your role in the pt when it comes to choosing a sub. if your pulling or loltanking i say /nin, if your main heal i say /thf for better tp gain at those low lvls when you dont have a better means of getting tp like with reverse flourish or meditate. of course DNC is a support job so /cor may work really well. ive never tried it tho. whatever you do dont sub a mage job, i dont think youd have enough MP to do anything at all.
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Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think critical hits have anything to do with TP gain, nor do I think that 1 or 2 points of extra DEX from subbing THF at low levels would have a significant impact on crits.
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#18 Mar 24 2008 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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No, but /THF is a good subjob for levels 30-47, because you can equip the Dagger Belt and gain 5 levels of dagger skill. (You can also equip the Pilferer's Earring.) Also, Sneak Attack guarantees you can land a step - I don't know about flourishes.

Of course, /THF loses its appeal at 48, when Life Belt becomes available.

But it's still nice to sub at 61 (and ONLY 61), because the Dagger Belt then gives you access to Dancing Edge. If you want to DD one level early, /THF can do this for you.

Outside of 30-47 and 61, I don't think /THF compares to /DRG, /SAM, or even /NIN.
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#19 Mar 24 2008 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I've never really understood the reasons for a haste build for THF, who are mostly limited by the timers on SA and TA anyway, so I had disregarded the Rapparee Harness as a fun, but secondary, equipment piece.


THF probably prosper more from a haste build than most other jobs for that reason alone. If you can get TP every 30 seconds, you can use a WS with both. What is commonly done by most good THF, if they will not wait for JA's and use SA/TA/WS at will. My personal rule of thumb is that if you have to wait for more than 5 sec for a JA or TP, use it and dont stack them. THF turns into a great DoT job in end game and uses haste just as well as anyone else.

As far as sub jobs go, use one that benefits you in a way you need it. If you need accuracy in the 20's, use /RNG. If you have the gear to make /DRG work, I think it works quite well. At lvl 1, /MNK is good because you actually get something out of it (martial arts 1), not many other jobs offer much. Using /WAR at lvl 1 does nothing for you at low levels, heck, /WHM will offer more. I have used /NIN from 25-36 (currently) because the stats offered on the daggers are decent, and shadows eat some damage.
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#20 Mar 25 2008 at 5:05 AM Rating: Good
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Also, Sneak Attack guarantees you can land a step - I don't know about flourishes.


I like Steps and use them a lot, but they aren't exactly make-or-break moves. The increased damage from Sneak Attack seems to be a better option for the party if you're subbing THF.

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But it's still nice to sub at 61 (and ONLY 61), because the Dagger Belt then gives you access to Dancing Edge. If you want to DD one level early, /THF can do this for you.


Teehee, level 61. Try level 59, three levels early. It takes five dagger merits, but I'm fully meriting dancer anyway.
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Theonehio wrote:

Subjobs that you will -not- get benefits from in the case of DNC:

PUP
BST
DRG
BLU
SCH
RNG
SMN
BLM


Bst sub is a monster when soloing, better than pup at low levels, at least in my case. You have good chr to charm with, and you'll be using a decent/even pet which will tear through whatever you are leveling on.
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From to 1-75 DNC I subbed Nin.

HOWEVER I will outline my beliefs and preferences just so that you have a full answer.
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1-10 Doesn't matter because you solo

11-20 depending on how much U hate the dunes you may end up soloing this to (fairly easily I might say) however during this time mnk is a good choice as so is war.

20-60 In this area NIN is by far the best choice for 2 reasons, TP build and Shadows... Because like most dancers you will be doing a lot of healing in this range seeing that its almost your only function within this range.

60-75 Now in this range it is purely up to you, a few directions you can go are as follows...

SAM- meditate for TP as well as third eye and store TP stuff all make sam a great sub.

WAR- seeing as you can do decent dmg berserk and warcry could always help out with that. I know that doin nin sub i still did bout 450-750 DEs with ease just with building flourish on imps/colibris so could be helpful(Double attack is nice as well)

THF- I did do this subjob for the **** of it for 1 party just to test out the Sneak attack>flourish thing to see how much it really helped, but as far as functional in a PT setup... IF you know for 100% certainty that your not going to be healing then this isnt a bad sub but if you know your gonna have to heal, even a little bit, War,sam, and nin all make better choices.

NIN- same as before TP build, safety, all around good sub choice..


Now @ 75, I have played around with all these subs, By far the only 2 that I find to be absolutely functional and good, are NIN and SAM; HOWEVER, War is also a sub I played with a lot, the reason I choose not to use it, is because I die a lot with it because I've done over 1k DEs on DNC with Building flourish+Berserk+warcry combo and then have nothing to protect me, no third eye, no shadows... Yes I can heal but usually one 1 cure because I just did a WS..


ALSO just to add to this rant, I know their are a lot of people out there that think dancers should not DD and that their TP should be put else where... I however with a half way completed haste build and my joyuese offhand, find myself normally maxed out @ 300tp just waiting to do something, so that is why I WS and it becomes very useful in that I don't do crummy dmg. NOW If I am main healing a party which i do have to do from time to time I then do save my tp but otherwise as you have seen above I do WS a lot and it is beneficial to the Party =D....!

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I can't get over the idea of singin' and dancin' at the same time.

What do y'all thimk of the BRD as a sub or main with DNC?!
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Subjobs that you will -not- get benefits from in the case of DNC:

PUP

Dnc/Pup with the WHM head is great, you get double healing. It's a also a good subjob to solo low levels with, since you get access to hand-to-hand weaponskills, and a puppet that helps you with whatever you need (enfeebling, healing, damage, depending on the mob).

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Dnc/Sch is just as useful, if not better than /WHM. Getting Regen2, sublimation (that works off base HP, thus fills your MP for sure in one shot) and the 'na spells isn't anything to laugh at.
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I'm fairly new to DNC, about to go onto Yuhtunga and I was curious what DNCs around this level use for a subjob.


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#26 Mar 27 2009 at 5:28 AM Rating: Good
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I can't get over the idea of singin' and dancin' at the same time.

What do y'all thimk of the BRD as a sub or main with DNC?!


/BRD is generally not a great idea.

Most songs scale with skill to a cap. Now, there are exceptions to this, for instance, Ballad doesn't scale, and Victory March has no known cap. Generally speaking though, more skill = better song effect, to a point.

In addition to that, normally BRD uses a combination of two skills for their songs. Ever wonder why Singing, Wing, and String skills are the bread and butter of BRD, but cap at 225 for 75? That's why. Of course, in order to use two skills, you need to have an instrument equipped, none of which any job other than BRD can use.

That alone will cut most /BRD song effect in half. Then factor in the bonus that the instrument itself will provide (+2 to song, etc). As an example, Advancing March will usually provide 7% Haste + 2% more from the instrument for 9% Haste. From /BRD, with Singing skill only being utilized, it's around 3.5%. That's with capped Singing for 37 too, which you certainly won't have at 58 when it'd become available from /BRD.

But wait, there's more! Using an instrument is -also- what allows you to utilize two songs (even as a BRD main). So /BRD can apply one usually-less-than-half potency song per party member.

For all that, is the standard 8 second casting time for songs reduced? Nope. Duration is the standard 120 seconds as well (instruments increase duration by 10% per +1).

Now, that's not to say there'd never ever be a circumstance where you might want to do /BRD. Ballad, for one, is just as effective from /BRD as it is for most BRD mains the majority of the time. The effect doesn't scale, and there's no full-time Ballad instrument other than Gjallarhorn (Storm Fife is +1, but only in Assault/Salvage).
Finale should also be functional from subjob (works fine for me if RDM/BRD doing Lamia 13 or whatnot).

However, as a general XP sub or something, it's really kind of lacking. /COR is perhaps a little bit better as it doesn't have the skill issue. It's still limited to one roll when subbed, and the effect is halved...but the effects of rolls don't scale with skill, so you should have half the effect of whatever a COR main could do at your current level, instead of half of what a COR half your level could do.


BRD/DNC can work, though time spent singing songs certainly cuts into melee time, and therefore TP. With Pianissimo, one could melee and shoot Ballads to a backline mage.
'course, a single BRD in a party is usually pulling, so the main XP/merit time this might be viable is in a double BRD party.
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My DNC is at 62.
I sub /BST.
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